NFL 2011 Part III

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]

The whole Drew Brees thing still bugs the FUCK out of me.

Michael Turner too.

Brees loved SD and hoped to stay, he played his balls off and they still dealt him. When he left, so did the blue collar attitude. Rivers has never been that kind of leader.
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Remember back Brad, Brees was coming off shoulder surgery and as far a Turner goes I got nothin’. I think Sproles muddied the waters on that one, three guys back there was a crowd.

Do you think they should have kept Martyball going? I do, he’s a flake but his teams were tough.
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AJ Smith has ruined that team IMO, Norv may not cut it as a HC, better OC material.

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I agree DJ, Turner is in that group of coaches that are like that, better co-ordinaters than HC. Phillips and Crennel come to mind.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I agree DJ, Turner is in that group of coaches that are like that, better co-ordinaters than HC. Phillips and Crennel come to mind.

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Yep. Takes more than scheme and football knowledge to run the show.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]

The whole Drew Brees thing still bugs the FUCK out of me.

Michael Turner too.

Brees loved SD and hoped to stay, he played his balls off and they still dealt him. When he left, so did the blue collar attitude. Rivers has never been that kind of leader.
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Remember back Brad, Brees was coming off shoulder surgery and as far a Turner goes I got nothin’. I think Sproles muddied the waters on that one, three guys back there was a crowd.

Do you think they should have kept Martyball going? I do, he’s a flake but his teams were tough.
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BjB,

Shoulder Schmoulder. Payton Manning is coming of NECK surgery and he still has a home. Ladanian Tomlinson had a bad ankle season after season and still stayed. It was piss poor management and AJ had to play his guy (Rivers) to keep from looking foolish.

Brees played like a beast that season, basically saying “oh you’re drafting a quarterback in the first round instead of a hot reciever or line support???” Fuck you, he’s not taking my job.

Martyball (sitting on leads like a hen to her eggs) isn’t the answer either, but Norv? No way hombre. He’s really fucking creative on offense and I like their overall scheme, but his training camps are powder puff and they always come out soft in the beginning of each season. They play into game shape around early October but still have to make serious come-backs at the end of way too many games.

I like seeing a team come out and hang points up in the first half and then distance themselves by banging the ball down the throat of the opposition in the second.

Norv seems most comfortable when the fanbase is pulling their hair out. That’s why I’m off the Charger wagon and more than likely heading to San Francisco for my west coast team.

For the record, I like Rivers. He’s done really well here and he’s a good community guy, even though he’s been kind of a bitch in the past. He protects the ball but also takes risks, and even though his delivery sucks he’s still accurate.

But the running game is Tolbert? Come on now. Matthews is an accesory becuase he’s so fragile, and Hester is supposed to be a Fullback even though he’s built more like Ladanian?

It’s backwards and weird.

Gates is getting old, and Vincent Jackson is a fuckstick. Can’t trust either of them nearly as much as in the past.

/end rant

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^ Perfect post.

AJ will be fired with Norv at some point.

Team will have to be rebuilt.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Perfect post.

AJ will be fired with Norv at some point.

Team will have to be rebuilt. [/quote]

good post brad.

AJ has been screwing over the Chargers for years. He’s let so many good players go.

Olshanksy, Brees, LT, Lorenzo Neal, Turner, Cromartie, Sproles, Wes Welker… just to name a few.

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Time to start giving Cincy Ownership and Mike Brown some credit, still have an excellent defense even with the loss of Johnathan Joseph, Have re-tooled with draft picks for the future (via Palmer) and looks to have revamped their offense seamlessly with Dalton, Simpson, Green and Gresham. Kudos to them.

Man Brady is so good he basically is telling his receivers where to go mid-play, Branch would be watching the game from home is wasn’t for this cat, fuck I hate the pats, but Brady is awesome.

Jets were lucky to win yesterday admittedly…it seems like they cant waork on all cylinders this year. The D-line played excellent and surprisingly the D backs and Revis played like shit, Eric Smith and Jim Leonard were ironically the only d backs who played well. Sanchez was as maddening as usual but played alot better in the second half. Aron Maybin another 2 sacks!

I feel bad for Leinart, I like to pull for players that most people like to shit on, and vice versa.

I wonder when the Vince Young to Jets rumors will start.

Very happy to see the iggles crash and burn…Hey Desean before you get a monster contract maybe you should catch a fucking ball…dickhead.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]
I sure hope they both get canned too. A.J. Smith has done nothing but draft busts in the past 5 or 6 years. Questionable picks, Antoine Cason was drafted before Brandon Flowers. Larry English was drafted before Clay Matthews. I could go on but those are good examples.

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Mcnabb to the Texans…

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]

The whole Drew Brees thing still bugs the FUCK out of me.

Michael Turner too.

Brees loved SD and hoped to stay, he played his balls off and they still dealt him. When he left, so did the blue collar attitude. Rivers has never been that kind of leader.
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Brees was a free agent and he left on his own terms. I don’t blame the Chargers for that. That was more of Marty’s fault. That year the Chargers were already out of the playoffs and A.J. Smith wanted to start Philip Rivers for the first time to see what he got. Marty didn’t want to and started Drew Brees instead. Brees tore his labrum in the last meaningless game of the season and the prognosis wasn’t good. Chargers could only keep one QB so they opted for their first round pick who was healthy. Brees ended up fully recovering which some experts didn’t believe he did. I’m happy he went to a good team.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Mcnabb to the Texans…[/quote]
Really? I’m watching NFL live right now and they didn’t mention it.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Mcnabb to the Texans…[/quote]

Good God no.

Houston is fucked this year, this was there chance to take the division and maybe go deep in the playoffs. No way in hell with a rookie low draft pick.

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No…Im just saying I think it would be a good idea…and if it did happen I would love to see McNabb go far. who would you rather have Yates or McNabb.

oh and Dwayne Bowe = pussy

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
No…Im just saying I think it would be a good idea…and if it did happen I would love to see McNabb go far. who would you rather have Yates or McNabb.

oh and Dwayne Bowe = pussy[/quote]

hasnt the trade deadline passed already?

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
No…Im just saying I think it would be a good idea…and if it did happen I would love to see McNabb go far. who would you rather have Yates or McNabb.

oh and Dwayne Bowe = pussy[/quote]

hasnt the trade deadline passed already?[/quote]

They can cut him and work out some back handed deal, im sure.

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[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]

The whole Drew Brees thing still bugs the FUCK out of me.

Michael Turner too.

Brees loved SD and hoped to stay, he played his balls off and they still dealt him. When he left, so did the blue collar attitude. Rivers has never been that kind of leader.
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Brees was a free agent and he left on his own terms. I don’t blame the Chargers for that. That was more of Marty’s fault. That year the Chargers were already out of the playoffs and A.J. Smith wanted to start Philip Rivers for the first time to see what he got. Marty didn’t want to and started Drew Brees instead. Brees tore his labrum in the last meaningless game of the season and the prognosis wasn’t good. Chargers could only keep one QB so they opted for their first round pick who was healthy. Brees ended up fully recovering which some experts didn’t believe he did. I’m happy he went to a good team.[/quote]

Strungout, all due respect,

But your last sentence is exactly whats’ wrong with San Diego sports in General. I’ve heard the same thing said about Adrian Gonzales and Jake Peavy (former Padres) so many times at the bar or on the radio it makes shiver. “good for him, nice to see he got a chance to compete…”

Fuuuck that shit.

San Diego fans need to realize that their teams are THEIR teams and fuck everybody else. None of these GM’s get called onto the carpet by the local media because nobody here thinks the teams need to be worth a shit… And if they are? Well that’s a bonus. It’s only been a very recent development that the Chargers have been worth a shit, they earned the #1 2004 draft pick because they were God-awful in 2003.

Anyways,

Brees was a Charger, should have stayed a Charger, shouldn’t have been a part of a business decision that left the offense vulnerable and in a mode to re-tool. I don’t think Marty was at fault for what happened to Drews’ shoulder. He wanted to fucking smoke Denver, why wouldn’t you start your starter? The Chargers did offer Drew 50 million over 5 years but only two million was guaranteed, basically saying “go fuck yourself buddy you’re washed up.” Brees got to NOLA and dominated, won ten games and got them to the NFC Championship. Michael Turner was a Charger that should have stayed a Charger. Ladanian was showing his age and he should have been dealt for draft picks WAY before Turner was allowed to go.

So, they kept the inexperienced quarterback, but let the young RB with the fresher legs go and kept the aging LT because he’s a household name?

That’s business that doesn’t make sense to me.

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
TEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

I hope that was the straw that breaks the camels back (so to speak) Norv Turner and AJ Smith need to be fired after this season. They have run the Chargers into the ground and need to go.[/quote]

Day after the last game of the season no matter what the result Norv is gone, even when he shows emotion and gets angry he looks like tool, sounds like Audry Hepburn. Let’s see…it will be Monday Jan 2.[/quote]

I hope so. Norv is a big dummy bird. I really hope they shit can AJ Smith too. That guy has screwed over SD so many times and gotten rid of so many good players.

They need to clean house.

Too bad Urban Meyer is going to Ohio State because that would have been a pretty interesting hire.[/quote]

The whole Drew Brees thing still bugs the FUCK out of me.

Michael Turner too.

Brees loved SD and hoped to stay, he played his balls off and they still dealt him. When he left, so did the blue collar attitude. Rivers has never been that kind of leader.
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Brees was a free agent and he left on his own terms. I don’t blame the Chargers for that. That was more of Marty’s fault. That year the Chargers were already out of the playoffs and A.J. Smith wanted to start Philip Rivers for the first time to see what he got. Marty didn’t want to and started Drew Brees instead. Brees tore his labrum in the last meaningless game of the season and the prognosis wasn’t good. Chargers could only keep one QB so they opted for their first round pick who was healthy. Brees ended up fully recovering which some experts didn’t believe he did. I’m happy he went to a good team.[/quote]

Strungout, all due respect,

But your last sentence is exactly whats’ wrong with San Diego sports in General. I’ve heard the same thing said about Adrian Gonzales and Jake Peavy (former Padres) so many times at the bar or on the radio it makes shiver. “good for him, nice to see he got a chance to compete…”

Fuuuck that shit.

San Diego fans need to realize that their teams are THEIR teams and fuck everybody else. None of these GM’s get called onto the carpet by the local media because nobody here thinks the teams need to be worth a shit… And if they are? Well that’s a bonus. It’s only been a very recent development that the Chargers have been worth a shit, they earned the #1 2004 draft pick because they were God-awful in 2003.

Anyways,

Brees was a Charger, should have stayed a Charger, shouldn’t have been a part of a business decision that left the offense vulnerable and in a mode to re-tool. I don’t think Marty was at fault for what happened to Drews’ shoulder. He wanted to fucking smoke Denver, why wouldn’t you start your starter? The Chargers did offer Drew 50 million over 5 years but only two million was guaranteed, basically saying “go fuck yourself buddy you’re washed up.” Brees got to NOLA and dominated, won ten games and got them to the NFC Championship. Michael Turner was a Charger that should have stayed a Charger. Ladanian was showing his age and he should have been dealt for draft picks WAY before Turner was allowed to go.

So, they kept the inexperienced quarterback, but let the young RB with the fresher legs go and kept the aging LT because he’s a household name?

That’s business that doesn’t make sense to me.

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Baseball is different than football. In baseball it’s impossible for a small market team to keep a super star when the Yankees and Red Sox throw all kinds of money at them. Football is different, there are salary caps. It’s all fair game.

As far as letting Brees go, what should they have done with Rivers? Rivers has been really good except this year. You can’t keep two franchise QBs on one team where they are both getting paid bank. Should I still be upset that five years ago the Chargers let him go? I’m over it and that is why I say i’m glad he won a Super Bowl. Trust me though, I hate what the team has turned in to and hope that major changes are coming.

Also, the Chargers year to go all the way was the first under Rivers when they hosted the AFC divisional game and lost to the Patriots. They should have won the game, but Marlon McGree decided to try and run back an interception instead of falling down and securing the win and then fumbles it.

Oh, and Jake Peavy, that was a good trade. The guy was totally injury prone and the Padres had to get rid of him. I just wished they traded him sooner when he had more value.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I do think if NE had lost one game during the regular season, they would have won the SB.[/quote]

what logic are you using to justify this statement?

I’ve heard that said a ton of times and it makes absolutely ZERO sense to me. Why would a team be better off by losing a game? I dont get that.

I think Green Bay could go undefeated. Their D has been playing better the last two weeks but Green Bay is one average game by Rodgers (who has been out of his mind this year!) from a loss if their D doesnt step up.
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No logic. Just my feeling. Maybe too much pressure going undefeated.
We’ll never know, unless GB pulls it out.

As a 49er fan, I hope they get a chance to play them. But it doesn’t look too good for my team on a match-up stand point.

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OMG ENOUGH WITH THE STORIES COMMENTATORS. about to rip my fucking head off.

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[quote]fnf wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]fnf wrote:
I do think if NE had lost one game during the regular season, they would have won the SB.[/quote]

what logic are you using to justify this statement?

I’ve heard that said a ton of times and it makes absolutely ZERO sense to me. Why would a team be better off by losing a game? I dont get that.

I think Green Bay could go undefeated. Their D has been playing better the last two weeks but Green Bay is one average game by Rodgers (who has been out of his mind this year!) from a loss if their D doesnt step up.
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No logic. Just my feeling. Maybe too much pressure going undefeated.
We’ll never know, unless GB pulls it out.

As a 49er fan, I hope they get a chance to play them. But it doesn’t look too good for my team on a match-up stand point.[/quote]

I kinda agree in a way not really logic based but maybe the road to the SB is hard enough to then put double pressure in an undefeated season…i dunno