New to TRT - SubQ into Buttocks/Glutes?

Sub Q here 3x a week with Hcg. I use two pins. 29 gauge 1/2" for test cyp (grape seed oil) and 31 gauge 5/8" for HCG. Takes some time to load cyp (less than a minute) but very easy to pin. Always do in my belly. One side test, the other HCG. Alternate every pin. No problems whatsoever. Occasionally a very small lump from test but can be avoided if you massage the area where you pinned immediately. Hcg is super easy with no lumps.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Sesame oil may be the culprit. People have stated that grapeseed oil is better and I have a lot of allergies from nuts, dairy, etc. Also, tried different pinning sites with no change and kept the volume the same at 1 cc. Maybe it is the amount of the injection and/or the speed in which I inject. I don’t believe that I am going fast, but maybe try a slightly slower injection.

IDK, all in the game of TRT :slight_smile:

Walmart pharmacy has those. ReLion house brand ~$14 per 100

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Some get bumps in belly and not over quads and some the other way around. Experiment.

Pull out needle and press on injection cut line with finger for ~10 seconds to allow cut vessels to seal off. This prevents bleed bruising.

Yes, this was my next plan of attack, but even though I’m a heavier set guy, my legs are very muscular and very little fat covering the leg. Worried about not getting the depth right and not sure where else to try.

If you want to try a different area, I sub-q in the same area of my glute as you would if you were doing an i/m into the glute. I use the upper outer quadrant of the glute. FWIW.

Could you quickly outline your technique for the glute injection? If I got straight into the leg, I am concerned that I will go IM instead of SubQ. That’s a different technique altogether. I may be overthinking this, but would rather ask.

Not advocating this, just throwing it out there for people who may be looking to inject in a different area. In Dr. Crisler’s book, “Testosterone Replacement Therapy, - A Recipe for Success,” he has devoted chapter 14 to subcutaneous Testosterone Injections starting on (page 88). On page 91 he writes, “…I have moved my preferred injection site to the fat pad on the top of each gluteal muscle. It is as if you were doing the regular IM injection in your backside, but now using a short needle (#29 0.5ml 1/2” insulin syringe), so the injection is made into the fat. I find this to be easier, more comfortable, and less likely to cause any swelling (important for those carrying less body fat). “…I have found that 40 mg of testosterone cypionate twice per week, subcutaneously, is equal to 100 mg per week, IM.”

So basically if you were looking at a butt cheek, divide it into four equal parts. I use the upper, outer quadrant (exactly where I would have injected IM).

As stated above.

For SQ/SC, you pinch up a fold of skin then inject into the end if the fold so the needle is parallel to the muscles below. Use a #29 0.5ml 1/2" insulin syringe. Slow to load, injection time is OK. Inject on belly or over quads where you can see what you are doing and avoiding visible…

thank you…but KSman, you stopped at visible…Visible what? :slight_smile:

From KSman’s earlier post above:

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For SQ/SC, you pinch up a fold of skin then inject into the end if the fold so the needle is parallel to the muscles below. Use a #29 0.5ml 1/2" insulin syringe. Slow to load, injection time is OK.

Inject on belly or over quads where you can see what you are doing and avoiding visible veins.

Many here are doing this. Asking what results are like is asking what it is to breath.

Some get lumps in belly but not legs and others vice verse. Find what works.”

Veins

Went ahead and did the left quad with better results. Still had a tiny bit of swelling and redness, but better overall. Then two days ago I did the right quad, the exact same way as the left quad, and it has blown up to the size of a silver dollar pancake and red and inflammed. Not sure what is going on here.

You scrub with alcohol pad?

Some have this issue and find that belly fat works better and some vice versa. Experiment. If all fails, go IM into quads with 1/2" if skin is lean.

I do SQ in the belly. When I first started in mid-November ago I had no reaction whatsoever, but they started getting red and itchy about the end of December. They keep getting worse to the point that they itch like crazy, hurt pretty much all the time, and are inflamed to about the size of my computer mouse. Benadryl seems to help, but not really a solution because I get too sleepy on it. Going to see if there’s a brand that uses grape seed oil or if I have to go to a compounding pharmacy.

“…I have found that 40 mg of testosterone cypionate twice per week, subcutaneously, is equal to 100 mg per week, IM.”

Is this the whole benefit to SubQ injections?

He writes in his book that there are several advantages. Some are;
not jabbing holes into your muscles and no pain,
less conversion to E,
the oil does not extrude back out and he says rarely do you even get a drop of blood at the injection site,
and a slower more even release into the body, which he says is effective for those with lower SHBG levels.

Anyone try 27g, .5ml, 3/8" syringes for this? Basically allergy syringes. I’m using 29g, .5ml, 1/2" but havnt actually tried subq yet.

How the heck is 100 mg a stupid low dose when it’s pretty much the standard dose to get someone into the mid to high normal range of 500 to 1000?

Subcutaneous or IM shots with 28 gauge insulin or tuberculin needles can be done in the glutes, quads, flanks, traps, belly, or shoulders. They all result in the same readings for me.

Even the second doctor I saw thought 100 mg i/m every two weeks was stupid low… what can I say?