New Orleans

[quote]Professor X wrote:
doogie wrote:
He said he’s had “a very few” black students who think all white people are evil. That’s not racist. If he said ALL black people think white people are evil, that would have been racist.

Doogie, we have seen the depths of how you think in terms of race in other threads. Perhaps you should let the debate lay in the hands of others. It isn’t like you were smelling like roses as you discussed a certain Holiday a couple of weeks ago. I will simply leave it at that. [/quote]

How do I think in terms of race? I’m married to a Hispanic woman. I have a Hispanic daughter. I teach in a school that is 99% minority students. Again, disagreeing with you doesn’t make people racist. And celebrating a holiday started by a racist, communist, felon is still dumb.

[quote]doogie wrote:

How do I think in terms of race?[/quote]

Doogie, you may be a racist and not even know it.

Frightening, aye?

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
doogie wrote:

How do I think in terms of race?

Doogie, you may be a racist and not even know it.

Frightening, aye?[/quote]

I’m a self-hating honkie.

I’m not pointing at anyone in particular, so nobody has to take this personally.

However, racism, like sexism and other ism’s, can be ingrained to the point of being virtually invisible.

This was pointed out to me during high school by a radical feminist nymph. Anyway, the point was, the language I used, at that time, was male oriented, when in fact it could have been neutral or female.

Everything was simply described in male terms, naturally, because that was the way it was.

Now, I know, we can fight tooth and nail about the evils of politically correct speech and feminazi’s, but at the same time, things have changed a lot since then. She had a good point.

Attitudes, concepts and thoughts based on historical issues still pervade the land. Again, this isn’t an accusation towards anybody, but no matter what group you belong to, it pays to think carefully about that from time to time, to spot it.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
doogie wrote:

How do I think in terms of race?

Doogie, you may be a racist and not even know it.

Frightening, aye?[/quote]

More like openly hold biases yet exclaim that they aren’t racially motivated in spite of them being laregly racially motivated. Frightening? Hardly. Irritating and incredibly transparent? yes.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Dude, that’s more than odd. This guy is obviously racist yet not one person who claims “conservative” as a shining title seems to say anything in opposition to it. That is what speaks louder than anything to me.

You realize you say this practically every time someone makes what you perceive to be a racial comment?

It’s tired. Oh, and the not-so-subtle insinuation that the self-styled conservatives here are racist - despite plenty of postings to the contrary, assuming you can read - is something you should be ashamed of.[/quote]

Oh, don’t get me wrong. That statement about conservatives was directly about how ridiculous posters are tolerated as long as they voted for the same person. One particular one who jumped into the other discussion on sex in the media, told by many others that his posts amounted to third grade dribble, comes to mind.

I think the notion that nobody wants to move back to New Orleans is crazy. The real estate market is crazy in New Orleans. Homes that were on the market and not effected by the storm are going for twice the amount because of the influx of returning citizens.

The same goes for surrounding areas. Blanco is a washed up Dem. who could not do her job and blames everyone but herself for the events after Katrina.

This whole race thing does get a little tired. I wonder if people of other “races” get tired of the black and white game we always seem to play. Seems to me that White people are the only people who get labeled “racist” these days.

Really, when have you heard of an Asin or Mexican or Native American being Racist? I find it comical. I miss the Marine Corps,and how all walks of life can come togeter as one in the Corps and learn from each other. My whole time in I never had to deal with or hear someone say “SSgt. Devildog is a racist”.

Get the fuck over it. Doogie, I attend a local college and get shoveled full of Liberal,Darwin hug a fucking tree bullshit all day but that is O.K. until I disagree and then that makes me a "Irrational, Insensitive, arrogant Holly Rollin’ Conservative.

I love New Orleans and every crazy Fucker who lives there and all the Local Bartenders who have served me a beer while I got a lap dance at the tender age of 18. As fucked up as my state may be I love everyone here…except Blanco and Negan.

Thank you T-Nation members who have donated money or time to the relief effort of the Gulf Coast. I cannot imagine USA wihout New Orleans. It’s cultural impact on art and music will last forever and the memories and friends I have made ther will not be forgoten.

Wow. I find it to be nothing short of hilarious that a guy from California (Earthquakes, Wildfires, Landslides) is saying that New Orleans should not be rebuilt because it is so prone to devastation from natural disasters (hurricanes, which cause flooding).

Does anyone else see the hypocrasy? Should San Fransisco not be rebuilt when there is an earthquake since another is all but guaranteed to strike again? Should the suburbs of San Diego not rebuild after a wildfire for fear of future wildfires?

Every square inch of the United States is prone to some form of natural disaster. Should we just not rebuild after each one occurs since we know it is bound to happen again at some point in the future?

Come on, people. Let common sense prevail here. New Orleans Should be rebuilt, but it is in horrible shape. The French Quarter did not just get back on its feet quicker than the residential areas because that is the priority. It is up and running because it was in better shape than the outlyign residential areas.

There are vast stretches of the city that must be condemed 100%. Those areas happen to be residential, and it just so happens that the majority of those displaced are black.

But I can promise you that Mother Nature is not racist. Blacks, whites, rich and poor were all affected by the storm. The rebuilding will take place according to what CAN be rebuilt.

The French Quarter and Central Business District required less time, so it is only natural to get those up and running. If only minor repairs were needed on the Ninth Ward and New Orleans East but the French Quarter had been devastated, I can guarantee that Bourbon Street would be shut down but people would be back in the projects.

bama2, I felt as if I was the only other person who got that. Beat me to the punch…SHIT!

“Wow. I find it to be nothing short of hilarious that a guy from California (Earthquakes, Wildfires, Landslides) is saying that New Orleans should not be rebuilt because it is so prone to devastation from natural disasters (hurricanes, which cause flooding).”

You can buy insurance to cover earthquakes, wildfires, and landslides. Why? Because insurance companies are allowed to charge rates commensurate with the actual risk if you choose to live on that dry brush covered ridge.

However, since companies are not allowed to charge realistic rates for structures that are at risk to one degree or another when the damage is flooding, they don’t sell insurance. (Who would, you’d just be guaranteeing you’d be out of business.)

So the Uncle Sugar sells the flood insurance with no appreciable risk pricing. With “free money” provided to those smart enough to elect for it (which is required by almost every lender when you are not in an ‘X’ flood zone), every time your condo in Ft. Lauderdale gets wiped out, the taxpayer will pay to rebuild it. Over and over and over.

This is what happens when you cripple the market from doing its job. “Rebuild” is code for “having someone else pay for it.”

[quote]Professor X wrote:
hardcore_balla wrote:
prof x,

I will agree that the evil white empire idea is somewhat odd.

Dude, that’s more than odd. This guy is obviously racist yet not one person who claims “conservative” as a shining title seems to say anything in opposition to it. That is what speaks louder than anything to me.[/quote]

Hmm… well, went back and looked up grades from the past 5 years for all my students. Average caucasian grade = 3.31, average african-american grade = 3.40. No latent racism that I see.

Prof, I do enjoy observing you as a cultural phenomenon. The young men and women I observe are still in the process of development. To find an adult who seems to embrace the ideas I expressed is interesting indeed. Almost fascinating.

[quote]hardcore_balla wrote:
prof x,

I will agree that the evil white empire idea is somewhat odd. [/quote]

Lost me on this one. Who said something about an evil white empire?

Clayton Bigsby

[quote]bama2 wrote:
Wow. I find it to be nothing short of hilarious that a guy from California (Earthquakes, Wildfires, Landslides) is saying that New Orleans should not be rebuilt because it is so prone to devastation from natural disasters (hurricanes, which cause flooding).
… [/quote]

I noticed it too. Good stuff.

Of course we should rebuild it but we have to be smart about it. Unfortunately I suspect that we will not be smart about it.

[quote]BigPaul wrote:
Why is the government even bothering to re-build New Orleans? It is completley impracticle, the whole city is below sea level and in order to make it more secure against such natural disasters is going to cost even more money. It is freaking retarded, the government is effectively incentivizing people to live in a disaster-prone area. The same argument could easily be made for the ‘islands’ (they are essentially exposed and constantly moving sand barges) off the coast of Mississippi that also got destroyed - the government wasted your and my money every stinking year by moving sand around so these ‘islands’ wouldn’t drift, and year after year the government would come in and replace any roads, electricity or sewage infrastructure that was damaged in the previous hurricane season.

This is a much broader problem, in the last many decades the government has effectively incentivized people to live in areas prone to natural disaster by repairing anything that was damaged - at a cost to taxpayers rather than residents - in a natural disaster. Look at the level of infrastructure that has been put in place and replaced repeatedly in hurricane- and tidal- prone costal areas of the US, or in the landslide prone mountainous areas of many southwestern states with sandy soils, or regular flood planes.

I’m not sure what the solution is from here, let alone the next step to take, but if there had not been so much activity that effectively incentivized people to live in catastrophy-prone areas, it is quite likely that the economic and human tolls of past environmental catastrophies would have been far less.[/quote]

Um,quick question,what part of California do you live in.Maybe I’m just blind because I luv New Orleans,but isn’t most of Cali a disaster area.Major earthqukes 2 or three times every 10 years.Real dry climate causes wildfires every couple years.When it does rain,major damage caused by flash floods and landslides.

This occurs more freqently and takes more taxpayer’s dollars than this disaster that NO and gulf coast had.Last time it happened was in the 60’s.So,why don’t you pack up your bags and get out of Cali. before I have to spend more tax dollars repairing the next earthquake,landslide,flood,or combonation of the three this year.