New Business Failures

Money is still a big factor in modern day politics, unfortunately.

If you don’t take corporate “donations” it puts you at a disadvantage.

Since the vast majority of campaigners running on a progressive platform do not take corporate money it puts them at a disadvantage. Public financing of campaigns is one way to even the playing field.

Lolz.

You claimed Sanders was incredibly popular and the candidates he’s backed are being destroyed in their respective races. Once again, you’re delusional.

Yet another example of you wanting more money from me an actual tax paying citizen to get something you want (shitty progressive politicians in office).

No.

So hold others accountable for what was mainly an operation carried out by Saudi citizens.

Yes it will! How you think that business structure will not fundamentally change economics is beyond me.

How so?

You are confused. I’m talking about Ukraine under communism.

What is it you claim to have worked doing?

None. You’d have a better chance surviving having heart surgery done at your local meat counter than you would in one of their hospitals.

It may not ,make the wealth gap completely disappear but it would be reduced. How would it not when the entire top down structure has been restructured?

Co-ops will never be the primary business structure in any country in the world. Full Stop.

Given some more time and exposure, it may come true.

I’m not about to debate the 2nd Gulf war with some like you. I doubt you even know where the Middle East is on a map and I’m 100% sure you’ve not read a single book/article/briefing on the wars.

You’re completely clueless.

You were arguing corporations do not pay corporate tax. Only certain corporations (“c” corps) are even subject to corporate income tax. Following so far? Understanding organizational structures are sort of important when discussing what organizations are subject to a certain type of tax. It’s like super-relevant… Still following? So by running your mouth about things you don’t understand you were just making a fool of yourself. A common occurrence for you.

No it isn’t! You’ve been seduced by those who financially benefit from the system staying the same. It will happen eventually.

Sure, it’ll reduce it by bringing everyone’s earnings down. Wow, congratulations. You just made the economy worse so people feel better. Bravo.

You are completely delusional if you think co-ops will become the main org type in this country.

250 year hasn’t been enough time? There are more LLCs than co-ops and they’ve only existed for like 40 years iirc.

Your problem, as it relates to co-ops, is that you don’t seem to understand why people wouldn’t want to work for a co-op. There are several and they’re compelling.

In the West. Similar set-ups to co-ops have existed in China and India for over 1,000 years LOLOLOLOL

Dude, it’s more expensive. M4A has to cut payouts by 40% to ALL healthcare professionals in order to save enough money to essentially break even with current expenditures. Among other things

Read the damn analysis you brought up.

Not sure. As my main concern is the country I live in. Does Canada have a healthcare system that actively prevents other treatments from coming to the market in the name of profits? All the while prolonging the suffering of the public. How many deaths have been prevented by medicinal MJ in regards to the pharma opioid crisis?

Lol, ya. It’s unreal. He acts like co-ops are this new phenomena that people just don’t know about. Benjamin Franklin ran a co-op.

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Lol. So you keep pointing to single-payer systens in other countries; yet, you have no clue how they work or how much BIG PHARMA is still involved in their healthcare system. Color me shocked…

I bet 100 internet dollars that if I look this up, Canada actively prevents treatments from coming to market and it’s probably because of profit.

In order to afford their single-payer system, they require “the public” to wait an absurd amount of time for care costing taxpayers billions of dollars while prolonging their suffering. AND, they limit their choice in treatments.

Ask Canada since they have the same problem with their super awesome single-payer system.

It’ll be easier to get Stem Cell treatments in Single-Payer systems:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/second-opinion170909-1.4281703

Lolz as usual.

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The link you posted has it being more expensive. By a mile.

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Of the eight drugs analyzed, seven cost more in the U.S. after estimated discounts than in most other high-income countries.

Why are the drugs so much more expensive in the U.S.?

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-drug-prices/

http://www.notmymothersblog.com/2009/04/the-myth-of-canadian-health-care-wait-times/

Lol:


Why are prices higher here? Probably a bunch of reasons. The availability of more proprietary drugs is probably a big one. Demand is probably another.

LOL. I’m so stealing this!

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He’s either a complete fool or he’s just like the clowns using the dictionary definition of co-ops to mislead people into thinking a socialist government operates the same way.

Can’t let this go unchallenged.

This is complete bullshit with a socialist government.

SOCIALISM

Definitions:

State = The People; Citizens

Government = Public Servants managing(ruling) The State and it’s assets. Hence, the government is normally referred to as “The State” since it is democratically elected to make decisions on behalf of it’s citizens.

The State (All citizens) owns the means of production.

The Government DOES NOT own the means of production. It CANNOT own anything. It MANAGES the means of production on behalf of The State.

In a Socialist country, The State OWNS ALL CO-OPS. Which means, although technically, “workers own the means of production in their workplace”, so does the rest of the country.

ONE SHARE PER CITIZEN.

If we were to apply the principle of “1 share, 1 vote”, the GOVERNMENT would be making all decisions since it is democratically elected to make decisions on behalf of all citizens.

If this were done any other way, it would create a paradox since it would not be a democratic decision as workers in their workplace would have more of a say than all the other equal owners(the entire country’s citizens) of said workplace.

The government will do what they want to do with it because it has all the power in the world.

Just like any existing public service. You don’t walk into a public hospital and demand that you should have a say in what they do because you have 1 share of ownership, do you?

Management can be centralized, or decentralized. If it’s decentralized, then you can have a democratic workplace(which would contradict the idea of democracy and equality). As history has shown, it’s pretty dumb to bet on the latter. People keep getting fooled when politicians tell them what they want to hear.

ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT.

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