Silliness.
SNAP: $71B
TANF: $16B
CHIP: $15B
HUD: $41B
$143 billion specifically used to help those in need. That doesn’t even include the big ones like Medicare/Medicaid/social security.
Medicare/Medicaid: $565B
Both adjusted based on earnings:
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10536.pdf
Earned income tax credit:
Probably one hundred other things.
To quote a friend, who is one of those “banksters”
“You are a banking systems worst nightmare.”.
I’ve lived the first 37 years of my life cash only, and the past 9 using the compound interest formula to my advantage.
I’ve caught fish smarter than you.
Obviously more women in the labor force. Was it their choice or was it essentially a forced choice?
Obviously more people have degrees but can’t get jobs and that just goes to show the failure of the system.
Our economy has changed drastically as jobs are shipped overseas so that less expensive labor can be obtained. This is done so those at the top can make even more money, while simultaneously destroying the lives of thousands of families and people. Bravo!
What would become of the planet if regulations were not implemented? Who cares, as long as more profit is made?
Here’s a good synopsis of what typically happens in a recession.
Maybe, maybe not.
It is germane to the topic because you are being indoctrinated by the corporate media.
Or maybe your news sources have a financially vested interest in how the news is told?
All the more to champion Co-Ops.
Wow, the society has said that medical BK is not going to happen in their country like it does in the U.S. What an unaccountable system. The people ought to be financially destroyed for having the audacity for being diagnosed with a disease, If this happened to you would you feel the same way?
Huh?
The labor market is a market like any other. When you dilute the labor pool by increasing the number of workers available, wages drop.
It tells us a number of things, but the one I’m concerned with here is: The pool of laborers w/ a bachelor’s degree is greater; therefore, the labor pool has been diluted likely driving wages down.
It does not show the system is failing or that it has failed.
Sure, that’s one way it has changed, but that’s not what I was getting at.
what I’m getting at:
What percentage of the economy was based on manufacturing in 1940 vs. service oriented? How does that breakout now?
What has happened to the automotive industry and place like Detroit since 1940?
You’re just repeating talking points. I’m making an effort to have a real conversation with you and I’d appreciate the same in return.
This is not an answer to the question. The cost of regulations impacts wages as do all other costs. I did not make a judgment as to the validity of the regulations. I simply asked how much regulations cost the economy in 1940 vs. now? If you want more regulations to stop pollution, for example, that is fine and your prerogative, but you need to understand that that is a cost factor for a business and if a business has to pay more in order to remain in compliance with new laws it limits the availability of resources for other things, like wage increases.
I understand what happens during a recession I don’t need an Investopedia link to explain it.
I wrote that Venezuela would need to sell 30% of their goods to someone else if they didn’t sell to the US. Your response was that the people of Venezuela re-elected Maduro.
These two things have nothing at all to do with each other.
I’m sure that’s it.
That’s not even remotely the take-home lesson of that anecdote.
BK happens in those countries. We’ve already had this conversation, remember?
Again, you have avoided directly answering the question. Why is it fair to hold the other members of society responsible for a disease if it isn’t fair to hold the husband or person accountable for said disease? This is the perfect opportunity for you to convince me of the validity of single-payer. So, convince me…
Also, no one has said a person should be financially destroyed for having a disease. You’re falling into the hyperbole trap yet again. I don’t think a single person here wants people to be “financially destroyed” because they’re sick. We (my wife and I) voluntarily donate money specifically for research into neurological diseases because, as I said, my mother in law lost her life to a neurological disease. Why should we (we helped pay for her care and even bought a house with an in-law suite so we could be closer and help more with her care) be forced to pay for other people’s care? Convince me.
At the end of the day, it boils down to whether you believe healthcare should be a governmentally guaranteed right, which is up to the people of the society in question to decide. I don’t believe it should be anymore than any other forum of insurance.
Probably not because feelings rarely = logic, generally.
Preferable to WHO? The People aren’t setting them up like they’re setting up traditional businesses. They’re making their own decisions. This has the foul stench of potential authoritarianism when you think you or a party and it’s supporters has the right to decide what’s “best” for them.
First, how can I do this with you if all you do is copy and paste posts from quora?
Second, I am not a US citizen and I do not live in the US. Propaganda here is skewed LEFT. Get it?
Wo bu shi mei guo ren. Wo shi ya zhou hua qiao.
I not is Americaperson. I is Asia Chinaperson.
It’s fried rice, you plick!
Geddit?
What propaganda am I buying into when I point out that:
Supplies described are available in abundance from India at below 1/3 of the prices in the West. India has no sanctions on Venezuela. Therefore, your article is full of shit unless India is secretly denying them supplies.
The second article you quoted states they have NO MONEY for supplies.
This is so absurd it defies any semblance of logic.
How are a large percentage of the poor in the US OBESE while Venezuelans are literally wasting away? Just like the poor in the Third World?
Again, are the poor in the US resorting to growing their own crops and barter trading to not go hungry?
Finally, don’t fucking insult me and friends and family I grew up with shit like this. You will never know what it’s like to really go hungry unless it’s by choice if you live in the US.
It’s everywhere. Go find it yourself from where you deem legit lest I post a link and you try to call it propaganda.
No one is even denying it. The right is attacking Sanders for good things he said about Venezuela while his side is trying to distance themselves from Venezuela in it’s current state and make light of the good things he previously said. The socialists are upset at his present remarks about Venezuela. You’re the only one oblivious to this.
No, government intervention in the US has been increasing. See the charts above.
Rubbish. Unless they are investing and actively creating wealth, it just recirculates. Every bloody Big Government country in Asia has tried this shit during election years in shitty economies and the results are always the same. All it does is get them votes. You don’t see a pattern here?
I am not arguing. Socialism has been properly defined through ample literature and I am quite well versed in it. You want to try to modify the definitions or use them out of context, you either have people writing you off because they know the real definition or you spread a dangerous ideology that has lead to over a hundred million deaths.
Everything in history has been a mixed economy. It depends on which how far on either end of the spectrum you fall onto. The closest things to pure socialism were RUSSIA and CHINA.
120 million deaths.
An excellent post on top of all the other excellent posts you’ve written.
Unfortunately Zep doesn’t understand the concept of “spectrum”. He’s black or white only.
The hollowing out of the middle class says otherwise.
So is this an excuse for destroying the lives of thousands of families so those at the top can make more? If manufacturing is less, what are the reasons for it?
What would be the cost without regulations? Who cares as the cost would be bore by the public.
If a business cannot be viable without harming the outside world, do they even belong in business?
So news organizations don’t have financial stakes in how the news is told?
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Does this compare to the devastation brought to Venezuela by the U.S.?
For medical reasons? If so, is it the main reason for BK like it is here in the states?
Plenty more articles. And more reasons to be proud of our “healthcare” system. Making the public suffer and even causing death just to make another buck.
But it does happen in the U.S.
In addition the public is not allowed to get better in the U.S. Money needs to be made from people’s diseases. You can take their synthetic drugs or do nothing that is your choice but you are not allowed to have therapies(umbilical cord stem cell therapy)that will take away the profits of pharma. Profits over people. Hurrah!
How are firefighters paid?
Is this acceptable? Because it isn’t YOUR responsibility.
And if you weren’t married? So your circle of support may be nil, but you are held accountable for being diagnosed with a disease that prevents you from working. An absolute terrible way of doing “business”. You are not allowed to get better and the finance industry is allowed to hold you accountable. GTFOH. But you would feel the same way. Doubt it.
Okay, well, I tried and wasted my time, but thank you for the talking point vomit.
They’re volunteer or government employees…
When people are given more of a stake in business they will be more involved as it is a direct effect on their livelihood. It will be the future in due time. Like Medicare-For-All.
They are more successful than traditional business and the workers are more in tune with the ways business is conducted.
Do you think the U.S. propaganda is only distributed in the states? It may be more influential here but it is very often similar in countries friendly with the U.S. If you don’t mind me asking, where do you currently reside?
How about the garbage food being sold to them. If people in the U.S. aren’t starving what does the information say about other diseases, like diabetes.
They ought to.
Not so. I was almost forced to become homeless because I was diagnosed with a disease that prevents me from working. Is this by choice? Not allowed to get better in the U.S. as our “healthcare” system is patent based and profit based. Anything for another buck. So the public has to suffer so that pharma can make more money.
relations had been strained since the Bush administration had been accused of supporting a failed coup against Chavez in 2002.
Wow, another example of the U.S. interfering with another democratically elected government because it wasn’t “friendly” to U.S. businesses. Happens frequently.
Sanders on Latin America.
Like this.
bernie sanders praises life in Venezuela
Taking about democratic socialism.
More on Venezuela.
Five years ago, future Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders described Socialist-ruled Venezuela as a more suitable exemplar of the American dream than the United States.
With what is happening today in Venezuela, can the same thing even be fathomed to happen in the U.S. if it took on more social policies?
Was the real crime in America illegal acts? No. Despite the press devoted to Madoff, the real crime, here as in England, was legal. Selling subprime mortgages to people who could never pay them back was legal. Rating agencies certifying to the high quality of the resulting worthless securities was legal. The whole web of interacting CDO’s was legal. However, are these things ethical?
The real crime is concentration of corporate power.
The government and the major corporations work together.
And recirculating money provides more money for people as it is not being horded.
I believe Russia and China were communist. Not the same thing as I’m sure you know.
Let’s take a moment to reflect upon this. You were diagnosed with a disease that stops you from working, and your financial situation before that was nowhere near good enough to just fly to a country and get the stem cell treatment yourself, and you STILL didn’t become homeless.
You’re literally providing no societal value off the back of a life where you were not financially successful, and you’re still eating and not homeless.
You’re right, this country sure does suck
Hyperbole aside, it’s part of the explanation.
Was our economy based more so on manufacturing or services in 1940? Is the same spread true in 2018? Yes or no.
What was the cost of regulation in 1940? What is the cost of regulation in 2018?
Hyperbole, again.
A significant, dare I say the majority, of regulations, have ZERO to do with protecting the environment, but, again, it’s not relevant to the question anyway. Is regulatory burden higher now or in 1940? Yes or no.
.6% of the US population enter’s bankruptcy because of medical bills and it’s a PROTECTION against creditors. Deja Vu…
Depends on who you ask.
I know, I know corporate media blah blah blah. It’s funny how Health-care now and PNHP both believe medical bankruptcies are a huge problem. It’s almost like they have an agenda…
Hyperbole police, pull over.
Is the FDA stopping you from going to Panama for treatment?
Hyp Hyp Hyperbole!!
Who should be held responsible, society? Why?
I’m the small government guy, remember. This is what happens when you allow the government to control more and more decisions that states and/or individuals should be in control of.
What isn’t available to you that would make you better?
How are they holding you accountable?
When I wrote “probably not” I meant I would probably not feel the way I do now because FEELINGS come into play and they rarely = logic.
Nonsense.
Prime example of why he’d be a terrible president. He’s a complete looney toon moron.
No kidding.
Then you’ve obviously never seen first hand an employee buyout.
I was at Newport News Shipyard in the late 90’s as a contractor. A bunch of guys all sitting on their asses watching us work and blabbing about being “ownership” and stroking their egos. I just laughed and said “Yeah, and you’re paying ME to do your work!”.
Nothing dumber than letting people that can barely do their own jobs think that they can handle ownership and management decisions.
Lol, no kidding. So, the maintenance shop has the same say as me on financial matters and vice versa, how dumb is that?
No, this is simply not true. It depends on the type of person. Most people will simply be along for the ride. A large number will become liabilities. You artificially prop up their worth and the business will crash.
I doubt it. BUT I support them. If they get more popular, they have the potential to influence traditional businesses into establishing flatter corporate structures, for example.
It doesn’t matter because it would be LEFT WING propaganda. Like I said, the propaganda here skews LEFT.
Sorry, I can’t give out that information because I’m afraid of the government.
They’re eating too much.
You would be begging on the streets right now if you lived in China. And if you are smart enough, you would be doing this in areas near to hotels and tourist spots so you get more cash since tourists usually end up shocked and will give you more. The locals lack empathy because this is so common. You will be among a group of 20 others with missing eyes or limbs lining the street. Half of them will be children or mothers with babies. The lot of you will pool funds to bribe the police so they don’t chase you away. It’s a pretty competitive market, though. You will probably lose to the 12 year old girl without legs pushing herself on a wooden trolley if the woman constantly bowing with the baby on her back doesn’t dominate the market. Try telling everyone to share the takings equally and see what happens.
Look, I can empathize with your situation but you simply do not comprehend what real poverty is.
Also, you are among a small minority with unique problems that may not be adequately dealt with. Why don’t you take a more targeted approach to bringing attention to your situation and that of others in similar situations instead of attacking such a broad range of issues?
When a large percentage of the population depends on the government for employment, who do you think they’re going to vote for? Also, you seriously underestimate what the government will do to coerce it’s own employees into voting for them when it comes to elections.
I’m glad you found this. Which is what I wrote. You left out the parts after that.
2013:
"Five years ago, future Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders described Socialist-ruled Venezuela as a more suitable exemplar of the American dream than the United States.
With what is happening today in Venezuela, can the same thing even be fathomed to happen in the U.S. if it took on more social policies?"
2015:
I see you posted a link to a guardian article above so I’m assuming you don’t consider them a propaganda vehicle.
"The email also reportedly compared Corbyn’s support for the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez with a decision by Sanders to help negotiate the purchase of discounted heating oil from the Latin American country for a number of US states.
Sanders has spoken little about his foreign policy during the campaign but responded angrily to the attack on Tuesday, suggesting it was a crude slur more worthy of Republican opponents than a fellow Democrat."
Bernie got really angry:
“Yesterday, one of Hillary Clinton’s most prominent Super PACs attacked our campaign pretty viciously,” said the senator in a statement sent to supporters. “They suggested I’d be friendly with Middle East terrorist organizations, and even tried to link me to a dead communist dictator.
Socialists are angry:
Venezuela was “bemused”:
From the link YOU posted:
“Despite receiving trillions of dollars in oil revenue over recent decades, Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented economic collapse, owing precisely to the redistributionist programs that Sanders has extolled as a model for the U.S. economy. Grocery store shelves are barren, hospitals have no access to vital medicines, rationing is under way, and riots have begun to coalesce in the streets of Caracas.”
What does this have to do with what I wrote? You asked if government intervention was decreasing in the US like in Sweden. I wrote no.
No, recirculating means it just changes hands without wealth being created. For example, find me average people who are actively investing in startups and getting involved in facilitating their growth.
I told you that it has to result in an increase in productivity for it to be justified.
No, they were closer to socialist. Yes, I am aware that the CCP stands for Chinese Communist Party. It doesn’t even matter. State socialism always results in authoritarianism. You will not find any outliers in history.
Its fatally stupid. Like losing billions of dollars stupid.
But hey, those guys felt really cool for a little while.
