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[anon50325502]

@Zeppelin795

But, I guess this has very little effect because not everyone eats fast food and it is therefore not addictive at all. So as long as no one is having a gun pointed to their head it’s all good.

Go eat a Big Mac. Then go shoot heroin. Let us know which is addictive.

[anon50325502]

@dt79

Do you understand

Of course, not. He’s just one contradiction after another.

[anon50325502]

Also, I love how you respond to this point w/ nonsense:

While ignoring the rest, like the fact that my employer pays 87.5% of my premiums. Like, oh that’s just a detail that’ll get worked out if adopt single-payer.

[dt79]

@anon50325502

Of course, not. He’s just one contradiction after another.

This whole “democratic socialist” facade led by Bernie is a contradiction itself. Years ago he was all about Venezuela being able to fulfilll “The American Dream”. Now he’s calling Chavez a communist dictator. But still, nothing’s changed in his own policies. You seriously have to wonder which ones were influenced by Chavez.

[dt79]

@Zeppelin795

You’ve been doing it for years. Medicare and Medicaid.

@Zeppelin795

Man, if these were the biblical days you’d be a shoe-in for the 13th disciple. So empathetic.

Can you justify using the force of government to demand and take more of his money and put it in your pocket? And please, don’t use the 1% as a strawman. Or the Super Wealthy. Or the pharma companies. Or corporations. I’m talking about HIM. Only him.

[anon50325502]

@dt79

Can you justify using the force of government to demand and take more of his money and put it in your pocket? And please, don’t use the 1% as a strawman. Or the Super Wealthy. Or the pharma companies. Or corporations. I’m talking about HIM. Only him.

I bet he dodges this again because the fact of the matter is that he is perfectly fine, even happy, to have the government take more of the money my wife and I earn and give it to him.

All that talk about the evaporating Middle Class et al is just that, talk. The laws he supports don’t hurt the 1% or the .001%. They hurt people like me. I guarantee if we have single-payer I will pay an effective rate over 40% in the aggregate. That’s horseshit.

[Zeppelin795]

@dt79

if most people are really as dumb as you think they are, how can you trust them to make proper business decisions?

When did I say they were dumb? Proper business decisions? They would have a far greater stake in the businesses success and be much more involved.

@dt79

How can you even trust them to vote in their own favor during an election?

Are you talking about a political election or one in the Co-Op?

Do you understand the current system has gutted the middle class and spurred an unprecedented gap in wealth that cannot be sustained? A system you’ve made assumptions about.

[dt79]

If you can be influenced enough by ads to eat yourself into obesity, you shouldn’t be making business decisions. That’s business 101. Increased involvement doesn’t improve the business if the person is that dumb.

[anon50325502]

@Zeppelin795

Do you understand the current system has gutted the middle class

No it hasn’t. You’re so dramatic. The median income for a single person in the US is $46K (meaning half of all workers make more than this) and the Middle Class is defined, generally, as making $46K… Half of those working are middle class or higher.

@Zeppelin795

spurred an unprecedented gap in wealth that cannot be sustained?

This is honestly the only thing you’ve ever written worth discussing, but it always gets buried by your constant need for hyperbole.

The horror

[dt79]

@Zeppelin795

Are you talking about a political election or one in the Co-Op?

Everything.

@Zeppelin795

Do you understand the current system has gutted the middle class and spurred an unprecedented gap in wealth that cannot be sustained? A system you’ve made assumptions about.

I’ve made no assumptions. I can back up anything I write unless I specfically state that it’s an opinion.

[Basement_Gainz]

That chart means that the middle income group is shrinking because there’s more adults that fall into the wealthy brackets now. Oh the humanity!

Middle income saw a 11% drop from 61 to 50.

Greater than middle income went from 14 to 21. A 7% increase.

Less than middle Income went from 25 to 29 a 4% increase.

Obviously rounding applies.

So a net higher percentage of adults in the US are wealthy in 2015 than 1971. What a corrupt system!

[Aragorn]

@Zeppelin795

But, I guess this has very little effect because not everyone eats fast food and it is therefore not addictive at all. So as long as no one is having a gun pointed to their head it’s all good

That is not at all what I said, or implied, you loon. Not even close.

[anon50325502]

Brah, THE MIDDLE CLASS IS SHRINKING OH THE HUMANITY!!!

[Zeppelin795]

@anon50325502

Which is?

I’m sure this isn’t true because if it was the mainstream media would have covered it.

Inside the Koch Brothers' Toxic Empire

@anon50325502

Do oranges taste better than apples?

An opinion. It doesn’t answer the question, which isn’t based on opinion.

@anon50325502

Next sentence.

Another non-answer.

@anon50325502

No, I wouldn’t. My taxes would go up beyond my premiums.

No it wouldn’t. Unless you are among the top 5%.

@anon50325502

Are you having fun filling their pockets while assigning the majority of the blame on the government? Just like they’ve designed it.

usmccds423:

Umhhhmm

I was too bold here thinking you may understand it.

@anon50325502

Who says I have NO knowledge of these things?

It’s pretty obvious.

Does one need to have a degree to be knowledgeable?

@anon50325502

And it’s been working for how long? A good enough reason to get money out of politics. So there can be no more oligarchy.

Sounds great

Glad we agree on something.

So am I too assume that the pharma industry’s attempt to prevent medicinal MJ from being legalized and coming to the market IS competition?

@anon50325502

No, the FDA not allowing research of stem cell treatments (beyond what is allowed) is the main reason it is not a choice of therapy in the US.

No. It is the FDA acting at the behest of corporations that is keeping stem cells for treatment of chronic/degenerative from coming to the market. This is what corporate capture and the revolving door is all about. Keep the profits coming and fuck the public if their suffering. A pathetic philosophy that you support, but are so embarrassed by it’s conclusions you will try and find any excuse to resurrect it.

You think because you got lucky in life by not being diagnosed with a disease that prevents you from working that your political philosophy is viable. I doubt very highly you’d feel the same way if you were in my shoes. BTW, what is your age?

@anon50325502

Of course, you think this because you want a free ride.

Yes, being disabled is wanting a free ride. What an embarrassing idiot. I’m sure the majority of the public does not agree with your philosophy, so why don’t you just leave?

@anon50325502

That’s not a real choice single-payer is forced on them.

And if the majority of Americans want single-payer then why FORCE a private system on them? Especially since every other modern country in the world has some form of it.

@anon50325502

What absurd things?

Her entire platform…

Get ready because they are most likely coming in time. Hopefully people like you will just leave.

[anon50325502]

@Basement_Gainz

That chart means that the middle income group is shrinking because there’s more adults that fall into the wealthy brackets now. Oh the humanity!

Middle income saw a 11% drop from 61 to 50.

Greater than middle income went from 14 to 21. A 7% increase.

Less than middle Income went from 25 to 29 a 4% increase.

Obviously rounding applies.

So a net higher percentage of adults in the US are wealthy in 2015 than 1971. What a corrupt system!

Those god damn old people are so greedy! We should take their stuff!

[anon50325502]

@Zeppelin795

An opinion. It doesn’t answer the question, which isn’t based on opinion.

The point is comparing private insurance premiums to government options is like comparing apples to oranges. You have to control for like 50 differences, which I’m not about to attempt to do.

@Zeppelin795

Another non-answer.

The answer to the question you asked is literally in the next fucking sentence.

@Zeppelin795

No it wouldn’t. Unless you are among the top 5%.

Dude, I did the math for you…

@Zeppelin795

I was too bold here thinking you may understand it.

You got me, you’re like the smartlest smarty. The Biglest smarts of us all.

@Zeppelin795

Does one need to have a degree to be knowledgeable?

No, one has to actually be knowledgeable something you have never demonstrated here.

@Zeppelin795

So am I too assume that the pharma industry’s attempt to prevent medicinal MJ from being legalized and coming to the market IS competition?

You’re free to assume whatever you’d like. Pharm lobbied against MJ because it would likely reduce their profitability. If you have just asked me that instead of going full tilt hyperbole for the last 2 years you’d of know we agree on this…

@Zeppelin795

No. It is the FDA acting at the behest of corporations that is keeping stem cells for treatment of chronic/degenerative from coming to the market

And we lost you, again. The FDA is in the position of power. Pharm has to follow the FDA’s rules. If they (pharm) had the power they wouldn’t need to spend millions of dollars on lobbying. It is comically absurd to act like Pharm hold the power in this case.

@Zeppelin795

This is what corporate capture

Not real.

@Zeppelin795

Keep the profits coming and fuck the public if their suffering.

Direct your complaint here:

@Zeppelin795

A pathetic philosophy that you support, but are so embarrassed by it’s conclusions you will try and find any excuse to resurrect it.

Huh, I will try to “resurrect” what? The only thing I support is thorough testing of a drug/treatment so if/when I need it I know it’s expected efficacy and what side-effects to expect. I don’t care if the FDA approves cowshit as a treatment option if it works.

@Zeppelin795

You think because you got lucky in life by not being diagnosed with a disease that prevents you from working that your political philosophy is viable. I doubt very highly you’d feel the same way if you were in my shoes.

You’re probably right, I doubt I’d FEEL the same way, which is why we shouldn’t rely on feelings when making policy.

I’m 32.

@Zeppelin795

Yes, being disabled is wanting a free ride.

No, wanting me to pay for your disability is wanting a free ride.

@Zeppelin795

I’m sure the majority of the public does not agree with your philosophy, so why don’t you just leave?

A) you’d be wrong and b) why the fuck would I leave? I was born here and I’ve served this country so you can get your check from my taxes. Your welcome, btw.

@Zeppelin795

Get ready because they are most likely coming in time.

Probably. A lot of people don’t understand math in this day and age.

@Zeppelin795

Hopefully people like you will just leave.

Then no one will be left to foot the bill…

[norse84]

Damn Koch brothers. Not even top 10. 7 of top 10 donated overwelmingly to dems. Organization Profiles • OpenSecrets

[Zeppelin795]

Oh well, shit if the mainstream media or Rush doesn’t say it, it can’t be real.

Single-payer is coming, among other things. Time to get ready for your move.

@anon50325502

Median income earners break even while everyone that makes more than the median will pay more in taxes than they will save in premiums on average.

Is the 5k average plan for everyone? Care to provide some proof for this statement? Do these numbers include co-pays, deductibles etc.?

And of the Progressive Fed Tax. Has it ever been more progressive and what were the consequences? What about all the loopholes?

[anon50325502]

@Zeppelin795

Oh well, shit if the mainstream media or Rush doesn’t say it, it can’t be real.

This is MEDICAID spending in 2011. Are you stupid?

[anon50325502]

@Zeppelin795

And of the Progressive Fed Tax. Has it ever been more progressive and what were the consequences? What about all the loopholes?

Jesus H. dude… I’m not doing this with you, again. For like the 7th time. I’m done. I’m actually done this time.

Good luck with your MS, and I mean that sincerely.