[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
No , I will never understand your indifference because you don’t understand mine 
Human Nature [/quote]
Your statement about search and seizure and free assembly has absolutely nothing to do with what everyone else is discussing - Bundy’s grazing and water rights.[/quote]
it has to do with rights
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Fuck the government, fuck that turtle and fuck these stupid taxes. I bust my ass every day at work and get to keep ~ $0.70 for every dollar I earn. For what? So they can give billions of it away to people and foreign governments who don’t earn it? So they can pass layer upon layer of bureaucratic bullshit laws that nobody voted for that makes doing just about ANYTHING a major pain in the ass and an expense? They just take and TAKE AND FUCKING TAKE.
I’m glad the rancher stood up to the the fucking government. He had a good thing going for years and then they changed up. What was he supposed to do? Just say, “OK, I’ll just stop ranching now and do something else because the gubment fucked me”? The Federal Government needs back up and get out of the way. They don’t help us, they FUCK us consistently. But the sheeple of the United States say, “thank you, can I have another”. I’m glad someone is finally standing up. Imagine if we ALL stood up… (or at least a significant enough number of us to get their attention)
Land of the free, my ass.[/quote]
In dispute here are not taxes but grazing fees and who has the right to set them. Taxes on production were not raised; the fees charged by the BLM agency were.
I did some homework on this so-called agreement with Clark County. It turns out that Clark County had bought the water rights in the Bunkerville zone, and it was Clark County which then withdrew the water rights from the private rancher. It was Clark County which put this zone out of reach of ranchers, for the benefit of…Las Vegas, casinos, golf courses, but not for the marginal beef industry.
So Mr Bundy may have sued Clark County, or the people of Clark County could have voted, or…never mind. Fuck the Government.
OK, AG. We know you are in the oil business. Perhaps you or the company you work for leases drilling rights on BLM territory. The BLM raises the fees–the market for oil allows it–you pay them because the profit still is there, but your competitor does not pay them. For twenty years. IF the BLM does not apply the fees uniformly, it is exercising favoritism…against you. Should the BLM just back out of the way and allow your competitor to push you out of the market?
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I agree on everything except , it is a tax . It’s called a Usage Tax the more you use the more you pay .
Associated Press said the went side ways when the BLM told him to reduce his herd size because he was over grazing the land .
The major impact of overgrazing is desertification. When a piece of land is overgrazed, the nutritional capacity of that piece of land is reduced, thus its inability to sustain plant life. The absence of plant life exposes the soil to various agents of erosion slowly turning the piece of land infertile.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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LMAO
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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I don’t care who you are, that’s fucking hilarious. Actual lols
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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Holy Shit!
That pic above requires a moment of silence, it is that golden, now pardon me while I laugh my ass off LOL !!!
The Nevada rancher who forced the federal Bureau of Land Management to back down last week may have been targeted because a Chinese solar company with ties to Sen. Harry Reid’s son wants the land for an energy plant, several websites report.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The Nevada rancher who forced the federal Bureau of Land Management to back down last week may have been targeted because a Chinese solar company with ties to Sen. Harry Reid’s son wants the land for an energy plant, several websites report.
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Hay, we did it to the Indians.
Dr. Pangloss,
That’s funny!
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The Nevada rancher who forced the federal Bureau of Land Management to back down last week may have been targeted because a Chinese solar company with ties to Sen. Harry Reid’s son wants the land for an energy plant, several websites report.
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But they aren’t saying that he can’t let his cattle graze at all. They are saying that he owes them money. I’m not sure how this (if true) is related to them grabbing his cattle.
james
@ Maximus , they would have to show Reid has a direct benefit from this plant ,Other wise he is just doing his job
The cattle seizure could be collateral for the $1 million Bundy owes, and/or a way to get Bundy off of the land. No cattle means no grazing.
It just seemed suspect as to why the BLM was so adamant on getting that land cleared, and now we know why. If that Chinese company is willing to set up shop in that area, trust and believe there is a campaign donation involved going to Reid. Reid could also scream about jobs and green energy while sticking to a guy seen as a tax dodger.
The head of the BLM is a former Reid aide, Neil Kornze. This smells like Reid wanting to make some $$$
There are far and few between truly altruistic government officials. Those who win know how to play the game within the rules given to them. The rules provide the basis for classic magician illusions. Look over here while something happens over there.
I mean, look at these idiots. This guy from the Bigger, Faster, Stronger documentary is clearly not all that aware of the world that we live in…that he has personally helped mold.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The cattle seizure could be collateral for the $1 million Bundy owes, and/or a way to get Bundy off of the land. No cattle means no grazing.
It just seemed suspect as to why the BLM was so adamant on getting that land cleared, and now we know why. If that Chinese company is willing to set up shop in that area, trust and believe there is a campaign donation involved going to Reid. Reid could also scream about jobs and green energy while sticking to a guy seen as a tax dodger.
The head of the BLM is a former Reid aide, Neil Kornze. This smells like Reid wanting to make some $$$[/quote]
I was on a solar farm a few years back , It was Birds Landing CA it was full of wind mills it also had a very nice flock of sheep . There is no reason they could not co exist
I know it is the Maximum Socialist News
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The cattle seizure could be collateral for the $1 million Bundy owes, and/or a way to get Bundy off of the land. No cattle means no grazing.
It just seemed suspect as to why the BLM was so adamant on getting that land cleared, and now we know why. If that Chinese company is willing to set up shop in that area, trust and believe there is a campaign donation involved going to Reid. Reid could also scream about jobs and green energy while sticking to a guy seen as a tax dodger.
The head of the BLM is a former Reid aide, Neil Kornze. This smells like Reid wanting to make some $$$[/quote]
I was on a solar farm a few years back , It was Birds Landing CA it was full of wind mills it also had a very nice flock of sheep . There is no reason they could not co exist [/quote]
Solar windmills? That is innovative.
I could see cows doing some damage to a solar field. They aren’t the smartest or most gentle of creatures, and they’re big. One good itch to scratch and those panels and motion control systems are toast.
Yes Pitt, so long as bald eagles keep getting killed, it’s nothing but peaches and cream…
“The Obama administration announced Friday that it would allow certain wind farms to kill or injure bald eagles without penalty for up to 30 years, in an effort to encourage companies to invest in green energy.”
http://inhabitat.com/us-government-plans-to-allow-wind-companies-to-kill-bald-eagles/
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The cattle seizure could be collateral for the $1 million Bundy owes, and/or a way to get Bundy off of the land. No cattle means no grazing.
It just seemed suspect as to why the BLM was so adamant on getting that land cleared, and now we know why. If that Chinese company is willing to set up shop in that area, trust and believe there is a campaign donation involved going to Reid. Reid could also scream about jobs and green energy while sticking to a guy seen as a tax dodger.
The head of the BLM is a former Reid aide, Neil Kornze. This smells like Reid wanting to make some $$$[/quote]
I was on a solar farm a few years back , It was Birds Landing CA it was full of wind mills it also had a very nice flock of sheep . There is no reason they could not co exist [/quote]
Solar windmills? That is innovative.
I could see cows doing some damage to a solar field. They aren’t the smartest or most gentle of creatures, and they’re big. One good itch to scratch and those panels and motion control systems are toast.
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I have also been in both types of solar farms in the last few years . Your problem could be mitigated by simply mounting the panels or mirrors out of the cattle’s reach . The highest part of the mirrors have to be bumping 15 feet already .
The biggest part of maintenance is cleaning and they have machines designed specifically for that task
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Yes Pitt, so long as bald eagles keep getting killed, it’s nothing but peaches and cream…
“The Obama administration announced Friday that it would allow certain wind farms to kill or injure bald eagles without penalty for up to 30 years, in an effort to encourage companies to invest in green energy.”
http://inhabitat.com/us-government-plans-to-allow-wind-companies-to-kill-bald-eagles/[/quote]
It is not about the environment or animals. Just like all other Liberal talking points. It is about control and power centralized around a small few.
they actually owe the feds money.?..but the feds brought snipers to collect…
