[quote]randman wrote:
His idiotic posse led by Maverick Carter, aka The Idiot, is not helping matters much. This guy has no clue what he’s doing as a head of his own marketing agency and he was the one that organized and pushed “The Decision” which ended up being catastrophic. And then decides to invite sports reporters to a Vegas party event. Also a huge mistake. I have nothing against Bron getting his groove on in Vegas. It’s his level of arrogance and his stupid posse inviting the media to witness it which is just wrong on so many levels. It’s the blind leading the blind.
25 year olds have no clue what they are doing when they are 25 years old but they think they do. I know. I was one once. ;0[/quote]
Maverick Carter is apparently his childhood friend. His media/agency company is mainly led by his personal contacts, which is reminiscent of EAS and Bill Phillips. They have no idea how to run a company and in the process make what appears to be stupid decisions. I wonder how many of them have college degrees. M’fuckers were probably too high and flabbergasted by riding in 'Brons Hummer during HS that they forgot anything they learned in class.
Didn’t LeBron James say that he wants to surround him self with the ‘best’ people to further his success in what ever he chooses. In business he selected/was selected by Warren Buffet and created an actual relationship with him. On the media side he publicly has a friendship with Jay-Z that probably also realms the associates label. In the NBA underground he’s tight with WWW, who is, from what I’ve heard about him, a significant figure in the NBA. Therefore it’s strange to me and probably to a lot of people, since everyone found out, that his friends are running his company.
But then again who am I to critize how he chooses to be influenced. He’s his own man, not in the regard of a personality, but in the decisions he makes about stuff like that.
People are underestimating what the limits on player salaries have done. There is NO reason to stay on a team where you’re the only superstar when any team can now afford to have at least two as long as they have cap space. The NBA is on it’s way to becoming like MLB, when they should really try to be more like the NFL. It’s crazy, they actually did it by limiting salaries, too–the opposite of what MLB does.[/quote]
What are you talking about? Joe Johnson got 100 m + to be the sole superstar on an NBA team while LeBron, Wade and Bosh aren’t getting as much.
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LeBron Wade and Bosh are sort of the basis for my point–not sure why you brought that up. And yes Johnson was overpaid to stay, LEST HE JOIN ANOTHER SUPERSTAR ON ANOTHER TEAM FOR LESS MONEY. Again, kind of makes my point.
Capping individual salaries was a bad idea. They should have just made their team salary caps more strict and let the market handle how things turned out.
pretty sure that’s from that video with Neyo and Yeezy
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
People are underestimating what the limits on player salaries have done. There is NO reason to stay on a team where you’re the only superstar when any team can now afford to have at least two as long as they have cap space. The NBA is on it’s way to becoming like MLB, when they should really try to be more like the NFL. It’s crazy, they actually did it by limiting salaries, too–the opposite of what MLB does.[/quote]
It’s funny because the major sports have long viewed the NFL’s labor terms as the gold standard – no guaranteed contracts, inflexible cap (I think), all roads leading to parity, etc – but have been unable to bargain for anything even remotely similar. And despite all their recent success, the NFL is still headed for CBA problems next offseason. Remember now kids, greed is good.
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Yeah, it’s from Knock You Down. I don’t know anything about CBA negotiating, but maybe they can get rid of those restrictions on player salaries in return for a stricter team cap. It’s be a much more direct way to protect teams from overspending and would prevent players colluding [not a great term but for the sake of finishing this post quickly].
It’s funny because the major sports have long viewed the NFL’s labor terms as the gold standard – no guaranteed contracts, inflexible cap (I think), all roads leading to parity, etc – but have been unable to bargain for anything even remotely similar. And despite all their recent success, the NFL is still headed for CBA problems next offseason. Remember now kids, greed is good.
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You can’t compare the other leagues with the NFL. An NFL team has a large, god-knows-how many-man roster. The other leagues obviously don’t have that many players on a single team.
You also have to consider the difference in business between the NFL and the other leagues. The NFL generates more revenue than the other leagues.
~Chillain[/quote]
Yes there are other factors that play into the NFL getting more revenue, and they do have to sign like 50 guys [at around a $130 mill cap] but I don’t see why one can’t point out how much better the final entertainment product is in the NFL, and how it has to do with labor terms and agreements.
In MLB there are some teams that will never have a chance for at least the next decade, and perpetual winners. The NFL is the opposite, the definition of parity. Right now the NBA is somewhere in between, but it looks like it’ll be heading the way of MLB, when it should be going the way of the NFL [or even the NHL].
And why the hell did you sign your post with Chillain’s name?
It’s funny because the major sports have long viewed the NFL’s labor terms as the gold standard – no guaranteed contracts, inflexible cap (I think), all roads leading to parity, etc – but have been unable to bargain for anything even remotely similar. And despite all their recent success, the NFL is still headed for CBA problems next offseason. Remember now kids, greed is good.
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You can’t compare the other leagues with the NFL. An NFL team has a large, god-knows-how many-man roster. The other leagues obviously don’t have that many players on a single team.
You also have to consider the difference in business between the NFL and the other leagues. The NFL generates more revenue than the other leagues.
~Chillain[/quote]
Hilarious. Nevermind that I didn’t actually provide any comparative analysis, but at least this recent article does:
“What the NBA can learn from the NFL” by Brad Gagnon
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Celts about to sign Shaq. Doesn’t really do much except prove that Boston is now the graveyard for once dominant players.[/quote]
Pathetic Shaq is ring chasing again. Too bad he’s going to fall short again…
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Shaq may not even start for them once Perkin’s comes back from injury.
Jason Williams resigned with Orlando. [/quote]
There’s no way he starts. Perkins has done way too much and Shaq doesn’t really have anything left other than being giant. I guess they’re gonna run the other Oneal as the backup 4? I love Jason Williams. I used to workout with Anthony Goldwire [who’s played for several NBA teams] and he called me “Chocolate”, short for “White Chocolate”. For those that forgot-
I read on Yahoo sports they were asking who would you want to be on the Lakers team that you HATE otherwise.
I thought it was an interesting question because it make you look at players you hate in a different light.
I personal would like to see JR Smith as a Laker. IMO he’s the best at guarding Kobe and a mean lil fkr! I think he’d be a great addition. Also I would love to see Birdman as a Laker, I don’t really hate him, I actually enjoy watching him play, but I hate watching him swat away all the lakers shots. So who would you guys pick? Remember, people who you currently hate, but you’d love to see them on your team?
[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
I read on Yahoo sports they were asking who would you want to be on the Lakers team that you HATE otherwise.
I thought it was an interesting question because it make you look at players you hate in a different light.
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Not really. Watch this.
I’d want Nate Robinson to be on the Lakers, because then he’d get the Adam Morrison treatment. I could say the same about T-Mac [who I haven’t liked since I saw that body punch he delivered at the Olympics], but he’s probably gonna get that no matter where he plays.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Shaq may not even start for them once Perkin’s comes back from injury.
Jason Williams resigned with Orlando. [/quote]
There’s no way he starts. Perkins has done way too much and Shaq doesn’t really have anything left other than being giant. I guess they’re gonna run the other Oneal as the backup 4? I love Jason Williams. I used to workout with Anthony Goldwire [who’s played for several NBA teams] and he called me “Chocolate”, short for “White Chocolate”. For those that forgot-
whats your experience working out with this guy? whats the hardest part about guarding him? his quickness,hops,Strength? how was his work ethic? I find it very interesting and awesome that you got a chance to train with these ballers… was this at your college?? how were you able to train with these guys?
oh and for the record… you know way more about basketball than i do!! i dont hold a candle to you.lol
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Shaq may not even start for them once Perkin’s comes back from injury.
Jason Williams resigned with Orlando. [/quote]
There’s no way he starts. Perkins has done way too much and Shaq doesn’t really have anything left other than being giant. I guess they’re gonna run the other Oneal as the backup 4? I love Jason Williams. I used to workout with Anthony Goldwire [who’s played for several NBA teams] and he called me “Chocolate”, short for “White Chocolate”. For those that forgot-
whats your experience working out with this guy? whats the hardest part about guarding him? his quickness,hops,Strength? how was his work ethic? I find it very interesting and awesome that you got a chance to train with these ballers… was this at your college?? how were you able to train with these guys?
oh and for the record… you know way more about basketball than i do!! i dont hold a candle to you.lol [/quote]
I was working at a 24hr fitness and Anthony would come through in his off-season. He saw that I was pretty athletic and could play a little and tried to get me some tryouts with various juco and D-2 programs around the south. I was a big-time knucklehead and didn’t take him up on 'em. To this day my biggest regret. Anyway, Tony wasn’t super quick or athletic, but was really strong and his jumper was set an auto. He also had a realy low, compact handle and din’t make mistakes with the ball. And his work ethic was bananas. He would get up and run Memorial Park [about 3 miles], drink a myoplex and come to the gym to shoot. His warm-up was 5 spots inside the 3-point line, then 5 spots outside working the circle and he had to make 8 out of 10 or stay put. Then, he would do game situation shooting: Pull-ups off the bounce going left, then right, then curling off of screens either way, crossover pull-ups, etc… Working out with him [really just watching him shoot, haha] was awesome. He was never more than a fringe NBA player hanging off of someones bench playing spot minutes. His best season was with Denver in the mid-late 90’s. I’ve played with a handful of pro’s and ex-pro’s, but never got the chance to really spend time with any of 'em except Tony. When you think about his work ethic and ability, and then realize he was just a fringe player it lets you know how much game some of these dudes have. BG here can attest to that. Kenny Smith had a great quote on this. It was around the time that the AND 1 tour was getting really popular and all these street ball cats were talking shit about NBA players. One dude said he’s murder Steve Kerr. Kenny Smith said “All y’all cats talking shit about Steve Kerr, don’t get it twisted: Steve Kerr will give you 50.” They’re just on another level.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Shaq may not even start for them once Perkin’s comes back from injury.
Jason Williams resigned with Orlando. [/quote]
There’s no way he starts. Perkins has done way too much and Shaq doesn’t really have anything left other than being giant. I guess they’re gonna run the other Oneal as the backup 4? I love Jason Williams. I used to workout with Anthony Goldwire [who’s played for several NBA teams] and he called me “Chocolate”, short for “White Chocolate”. For those that forgot-
whats your experience working out with this guy? whats the hardest part about guarding him? his quickness,hops,Strength? how was his work ethic? I find it very interesting and awesome that you got a chance to train with these ballers… was this at your college?? how were you able to train with these guys?
oh and for the record… you know way more about basketball than i do!! i dont hold a candle to you.lol [/quote]
I was working at a 24hr fitness and Anthony would come through in his off-season. He saw that I was pretty athletic and could play a little and tried to get me some tryouts with various juco and D-2 programs around the south. I was a big-time knucklehead and didn’t take him up on 'em. To this day my biggest regret. Anyway, Tony wasn’t super quick or athletic, but was really strong and his jumper was set an auto. He also had a realy low, compact handle and din’t make mistakes with the ball. And his work ethic was bananas. He would get up and run Memorial Park [about 3 miles], drink a myoplex and come to the gym to shoot. His warm-up was 5 spots inside the 3-point line, then 5 spots outside working the circle and he had to make 8 out of 10 or stay put. Then, he would do game situation shooting: Pull-ups off the bounce going left, then right, then curling off of screens either way, crossover pull-ups, etc… Working out with him [really just watching him shoot, haha] was awesome. He was never more than a fringe NBA player hanging off of someones bench playing spot minutes. His best season was with Denver in the mid-late 90’s. I’ve played with a handful of pro’s and ex-pro’s, but never got the chance to really spend time with any of 'em except Tony. When you think about his work ethic and ability, and then realize he was just a fringe player it lets you know how much game some of these dudes have. BG here can attest to that. Kenny Smith had a great quote on this. It was around the time that the AND 1 tour was getting really popular and all these street ball cats were talking shit about NBA players. One dude said he’s murder Steve Kerr. Kenny Smith said “All y’all cats talking shit about Steve Kerr, don’t get it twisted: Steve Kerr will give you 50.” They’re just on another level.[/quote]
great post!!
wow… its kinda sad knowing that you can work 10 times harder than everybody else but at the end of the day, the player with the “genetics” and absolutely no work ethic will be starting.
That was nice of Tony to give you a shot at becoming a “pro” why didn’t you take it?!!! also, did you play him one on one? what happened??
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Who has no work ethic in the NBA? (Besided a handful of players)[/quote]
that is the most retarded question ever.[/quote]
its referred to me.
Don’t take it so literal. My point was that some players get away with murder in the nba(not practicing nearly as much as others) and they still get to be starters cause they’re so damn good. These players don’t work nearly as half as kobe bryant,and that i do mean literally.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Who has no work ethic in the NBA? (Besided a handful of players)[/quote]
that is the most retarded question ever.[/quote]
its referred to me.
Don’t take it so literal. My point was that some players get away with murder in the nba(not practicing nearly as much as others) and they still get to be starters cause they’re so damn good. These players don’t work nearly as half as kobe bryant,and that i do mean literally. [/quote]
We need to look at this realistically, War. When we hear things like “doesn’t take practice seriously” about guys like JR Rider or Iverson, that is in comparison to guys like Bryant or Jordan. The amount of work the supposed “slackers” put into their games would still blow most people away. These dudes have played A LOT of ball throughout their lives and spent a lot of time when they were younger working on moves, even if they didn’t consider it “practicing”. That was my problem. I had a lot of natural talent and athletic ability but I never really wanted to work for it. And the fact that I didn’t do anything with it is entirely my fault. That’s why my goal is to open a gym catering to highschool kids, so the kids who are willing to work for it, can.
wow… its kinda sad knowing that you can work 10 times harder than everybody else but at the end of the day, the player with the “genetics” and absolutely no work ethic will be starting.
That was nice of Tony to give you a shot at becoming a “pro” why didn’t you take it?!!! also, did you play him one on one? what happened?? [/quote]
It wasn’t necessarily a shot to go pro, it was a shot to tryout for various small schools around the south. You know man, I’ve thought a lot lately about why I didn’t take it and where my life would be. It wasn’t just him who tried to help me. A guy who trained several pro players [among them coincidentally enough was Kenny Smith] who saw me play at a high level rec league tried as well. There were a few guys who had connections who were down to help me. I think back and I realize I was lazy and scared of failure, or maybe even of success. I just didn’t want to work for anything. As sad as this sounds [and is to admit] I’d trade 20 years off the back end of my life to go back 10 from where I am right now. But, I have to live with the choices I’ve made. I posted about my gym idea for the future. If I see anyone with any kind of talent and no work ethic I’d like to take 'em under my wing and help them.
Oh yeah, we never played 1-on-1. I was maybe 155lbs at the time at 5’9" and he goes about 6’2" 190-ish. He would put me on his hip in the post and had layups all day. I could get by him fairly easily off the bounce, but he woulda just horse collared me and got the ball back, haha.
