Fish Oil, Spike and regular exercise. Avoiding too much caffeine, sugar and alcohol.
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.[/quote]
Please elaborate. Because I would have already taken my own life probably without them.
Once again I’d just like to thank everyone for throwing some ideas and personal experiences my way. I never expected this simple thread to spark such intense debate, but it has been enlightening.
I was aware of a number of the ideas/therapies mentioned, but I definitely picked up a few new ones that I’ll research. Also, enough can’t be said for really examining what types of “ups” and “downs” my friends are experiencing. Is it something more serious that deserves professional attention? Is it just the regular rollercoaster of life? Or, do they just need to occassionally suck it up? All good points to consider.
Thanks again.
Oh yeah - I totally agree about HOT-ROX elevating mood. I’ve experienced it as well as a number of my clients.
JokerFMJ wrote:
C-dog, I have a question: When your friends are “on cloud nine” do they tend to spend money, make random purchases or make large purchases more often than they would when they’re not this way? I only ask because I know when people suffer from a manic episode they have a tendancy to spend money they don’t have and not worry about the consequences as nothing can ruin their “cloud nine” feeling.
Don’t get me wrong, there are many more signs for being manic (and from what you described it seems like they may be manic-depressive - but i’m not a doctor), so don’t limit it to spending money. Maybe do some research and pay attention to some of their habits when they’re in these moods.
Joker,
I don’t see any of the behaviors that you describe. From what I know and understand, it doesn’t seem to be a manic-depressive kind of thing, but hey - I’m no doc.
Thanks for the insight.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
c-dog wrote:
It just seems that they may have a few days where they’re on cloud nine and then a few days (up to two weeks maybe) where it seems like their world is going to end.
The brevity of these periods may not fit, but if they are “up and down” like you say (extremes) they may be cyclothymic (a kind of “mini bipolar illness”).
Just a thought. Good luck.
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Thanks Chushin, I’m definitely gonna check this out.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Brk2k wrote:
I think you should stop, even if that says having mild depression, if those are SSRI drugs than they are addictive and bad for your health.
And you know, I don’t know who is that guy who said that everyone that has depression are just weak, I think that in a very minor way he is right. Not about the weak part, but I think some of this is in our head, it’s not just lack of serotonin like everyone suggests. If you’d won the lottery, I’m sure that would jump start your life just a little bit, and after spending money and having fun, you wouldn’t be depressed anymore…
I think that is true (expet mabey 1 percent of the population, and even than I heard stories of recovering when they’ve found their true passion in life) for most people. I think the way of 100% recovering from depression is there, and I think it’s not hard to find, you’ll may not make it but its worth a shot (I’m talking natural ways…).
Well, it’s not just depression. I live under the strain of my medical condition hitting me again at anytime anyday. It’s easy to say just deal with it, and I do, but I am literally fucked up in the head. I think the trauma has permanantly altered my emotional field. I take that back, I know it has. I’d love to just say “Ok, I’m fine now, no need for the meds.” But I have spells still where I break down from the memories of what went on. Every time I look at my 8 inch scar running up my abdomen, I shudder and flashback. My mental scar has not healed. In fact getting a common cold or the flu throws me into a deep depression because I feel a lot like I did as I sat and rotted in the hospital while recovering. I don’t do illness well at all. In fact as I type this I am running fever and had a MAJOR breakdown last night. It wasn’t pretty, but welcome to my life. But I’m goin to the doc when I leave work, and I’m takin a break from the gym the rest of the week to recover.[/quote]
I’m sorry, I didn’t know you went (and still going) through a difficult trauma.
I really admire you, this is an extreme challange. Good luck, I really hope you’ll conquer your trauma.
[quote]Brk2k wrote:
I’m sorry, I didn’t know you went (and still going) through a difficult trauma.
I really admire you, this is an extreme challange. Good luck, I really hope you’ll conquer your trauma.
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Nothing to be sorry about:) This is really the first time in a while that I have openly aired my “true self”. But as for admiring me, don’t, haha. I just do what I got to do to get through.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.[/quote]
Ok, understand something----everything in this world isn’t meant for every single person on this planet. The fact that some people try to PUSH their beliefs on others appauls me; whether it be about religion, politics, or the use of anti-depressant medication. Paxil works for some, not for others. Zoloft kills some, saves others…just b/c YOU had a bad experience with something, obviously does not mean that it’s going to give the next person a bad reaction. I think that is what everyone is trying to get across here.
I am by far the last person to say—have a problem, take this drug…I’m not promoting that. But for some people–the shit works, WELL!
Sure I know what you mean, but for me it’s like benching 500 pound, it’s very heavy, and you know that.
Fuck the dude that said your weak mentaly…
Sorry for all that “oh your so strong and tough” shit, but while everyone worship the ones that have a wonderful life, they don’t understand the real difficulties in life… I really see depression as the hardest thing on earth to handle, and I like it when someone can tame the beast
and take a hold of his life before they’ll take him, even if it’s with anti-depressants…
[quote]maryjane wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.
Ok, understand something----everything in this world isn’t meant for every single person on this planet. The fact that some people try to PUSH their beliefs on others appauls me; whether it be about religion, politics, or the use of anti-depressant medication. Paxil works for some, not for others. Zoloft kills some, saves others…just b/c YOU had a bad experience with something, obviously does not mean that it’s going to give the next person a bad reaction. I think that is what everyone is trying to get across here.
I am by far the last person to say—have a problem, take this drug…I’m not promoting that. But for some people–the shit works, WELL! [/quote]
I think you should explore the side effects of anti-depressants and look for alternatives as well.
I didn’t hear stories, trust me on this, search for side-effects. not just in medical websites, look for all kinds of opinions, learn as much as you can, after all, it’s your health…
[quote]Brk2k wrote:
Sure I know what you mean, but for me it’s like benching 500 pound, it’s very heavy, and you know that.
Fuck the dude that said your weak mentaly…
Sorry for all that “oh your so strong and tough” shit, but while everyone worship the ones that have a wonderful life, they don’t understand the real difficulties in life… I really see depression as the hardest thing on earth to handle, and I like it when someone can tame the beast
and take a hold of his life before they’ll take him, even if it’s with anti-depressants…[/quote]
Without a doubt my struggle is a HEAVY strain, but what am I going to do, give in? Hell no. I appreciate that you understand the dynamics of what a bitch it is. Thing is I don’t talk about it much with anyone. It’s my onus and I have to deal with it. But i do get a kick out those that give me a “woe is me” story and all that is the matter is that he needs a good smacking. I think to myself “You know what pain and suffering is? HAH!” But I keep that to myself. I don’t like my history dictating my future, so I put it in the back of my mind and go about my day. This explains a lot of why I try to be fun and jovial in a social situations, instead of the introvert I was. In short, drugs saved my life.
[quote]Brk2k wrote:
maryjane wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.
Ok, understand something----everything in this world isn’t meant for every single person on this planet. The fact that some people try to PUSH their beliefs on others appauls me; whether it be about religion, politics, or the use of anti-depressant medication. Paxil works for some, not for others. Zoloft kills some, saves others…just b/c YOU had a bad experience with something, obviously does not mean that it’s going to give the next person a bad reaction. I think that is what everyone is trying to get across here.
I am by far the last person to say—have a problem, take this drug…I’m not promoting that. But for some people–the shit works, WELL!
I think you should explore the side effects of anti-depressants and look for alternatives as well.
I didn’t hear stories, trust me on this, search for side-effects. not just in medical websites, look for all kinds of opinions, learn as much as you can, after all, it’s your health…
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That’s my wife just echoing how well I have done on them.
“Drugs saved my life” LOL
Yeah those arrogant people (which I don’t like blaming because they are not aware of it)really need a good smack!
I also don’t share it with nobody, don’t you share it with your wife though?
Brk2k–Sweetheart–I’m a freaking social worker! I know the side effects by heart. Want to know what a drug is for—check out my personal library! I’ve even got experience…personal and otherwise. So please, don’t preach to the choir!!!
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Good luck.
Thanks Prof. I’ll get through it. I always have, always will. I have deep desires in life that keep my spirit strong enough to tackle all the physical ailments thrown my way. You can knock me down, but I will always get up.[/quote]
Big,
You have a ton of character brother. Good luck and I know what your going thru. If you need an ear…
JW
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Anti-depressants are a crime against humanity,in my opinion. Seen too many people die on the stuff.[/quote]
You don’t know what your talking about brother.
If it wasn’t for the drugs that I take every day, I wouldn’t be here telling you that you don’t know what your talking about. Believe me.
JW