Also - eggs: Do any of you guys down them raw?! (Rocky style!! :))
I tried this a few years back (just two egg whites only in a cup), and I got some major bad stinky farts, and bad spots later on! But I know they are meant to be awesome for building an anabolic/ testosterone environment…so be good to hear your experiences with this on the AD (and generally!)
Also…Im LACTOSE INTOLERANT!!..so any substitutes for the dairy!? (no milk or cheese)
Cheers
~M~
[quote]Max888 wrote:
Also - eggs: Do any of you guys down them raw?! (Rocky style!! :))
I tried this a few years back (just two egg whites only in a cup), and I got some major bad stinky farts, and bad spots later on! But I know they are meant to be awesome for building an anabolic/ testosterone environment…so be good to hear your experiences with this on the AD (and generally!)
Also…Im LACTOSE INTOLERANT!!..so any substitutes for the dairy!? (no milk or cheese)
Cheers
~M~[/quote]
We’ll I’m eating 11 eggs a day at this point. I just scramble them the night before, bring them to work and nuke em. Raw is kinda nasty. Lots of people do it though.
Not sure if Lactaid makes a low carb version of milk or cheese. But you could look into that. You don’t need milk or cheese on this diet but it def helps with taste.
Just stick to meat, meat, meat, eggs, and nuts. almonds or wallnuts etc. It is really easy to get a lot of protein on this diet so you should be fine without the dairy.
Hey DJS - thanks for the advice dude!
Would love to see a breakdown of your typical day’s diet on the AD, and for the carb-up.
Also, your training schedule if possible.
Anyone else on here too! 
Cheers
Max
[quote]Max888 wrote:
Hey DJS - thanks for the advice dude!
Would love to see a breakdown of your typical day’s diet on the AD, and for the carb-up.
Also, your training schedule if possible.
Anyone else on here too!
Cheers
Max[/quote]
diet below:
wakeup
coffee w/ 1 oz heavy cream
workout
PWO:
1 scoop Isopure low carb protein, 8 oz hood low carb milk, 10grms glutamine, 5 grms creatine, 5 grms psyllium husk powder into shake. chase that with 3 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil. I just drink it straight.
commute to work.
breakfast
11 whole eggs scrambled and 6 peices of bacon, 1 serving psyllium husk powder.
lunch: spaced out into two meals 3 hours apart
meatballs… containing 1 lb of ground beef 3 oz romano cheese and 1 egg. Some sort of veggie on side… spinach or brocoli etc
snack: 1/2 cup almonds
Dinner: chicken salad. 8 oz chicken breast and 5 tablespoons of mayo. usually make lettuce wraps out of it.
1 serving of Flameout.
bedtime: 1 scoop low carb isopure.
4,740 cals, 344 grms protein.
66% fat, 30% protein and 4% carbs.
I just started the above this week. just started bulking. Before that it was exactly the same though with just less. no bacon, like half the amount of eggs, cut half the mayo, 1/2 the cheese in the meatballs etc. As for the weekends, i eat whatever… i log all my cals into fitday as i go but its different every weekend.
Workout is a five day bodybuilding split. Dr. D states you dont have to change up your workout for this diet. You can do whatever you want. The below fits into my schedule etc but is in no way special.
Mon: Legs
Tuesday: Chest
Wed: Back
Thurs: Shoulders
Friday Arms
Started the diet 7 weeks ago and as of yesterday I’m up to 190.5 from 184. First 5 weeks I was hitting about 3300 calories. I’ve decided to cut and am slowly reducing calories. I have done 2800 calories the last two weeks, and I need to cut back further as I am still gaining weight (good weight but not losing fat). I’m obviously getting enough dietary fat that my body isn’t hitting the stores yet, but I am hungry at times. I’m going to cut it back to 2500 calories now.
As soon as it arrives, I’ll be taking an unnamed fat burner as well, mainly just to control food cravings as I drop the calories.
REALLY trying to avoid dropping muscle mass, but I have a bet to have a good 6 pack by tax day, so I can’t take too much time! Probably need to get down to 175-180 to be there.
Heard about this site from a fellow lifter, so I’m just posting my diet here on the AD.
Meal 1
3 scrambled eggs
1 Hillshire kielbasa
2oz. cheese
5 Brown and serve maple sausages (3x a week / 7)
Meal 2
2 scoops whey
4oz. 1% milk
5 oz. water
Meal 3
7oz. ground beef
1.5 tablespoons feta cheese
1 cup broccoli
1.5 tablespoons bleu cheese
Meal 4
10oz. chicken breast cut up
2 tablespoons bleu cheese
10 olives
Tablespoon hot sauce
Meal 5
24 almonds
Whipped cream
2 tablespoons natural peanut butter
There it is…would appreciate any thoughts.
This sounds awesome guys!!..thanks for the info.
Have any of you experienced any water retention/ bloating since doing the AD?!?(although I know this affects individuals differently!) - and how would you overcome this if it happened?
Im currently at 163lbs, at 6ft, and bodyfat is below 10%- so do need to bulk up! Ive been told that AD is not suited to bulking up as quickly as just eating carbs…thoughts on this?
Cheers guys!!
~M~
It is and it isn’t.
You won’t as fast as a CHO diet, but you also avoid a lot of the fat mass that comes from a CHO bulking diet. Also, an AD bulk lets you eat a whole lot more food in general.
The slower bulk may sound like a pain, but the shorter cut that will follow is easier to handle than the aggressive and extended cuts you need on a high carb route.
Bloating: drink tons of water. It’ll balance out your salt. Get a Multivitamin which has a balance of potassium, magnesium and calcium.
Potassium is the one that is usually toughest to come by on this diet unless you take a protein shake of some sorts.
Lots of questions asked:
For other supplements, I take glutamine and ZMA before going to bed, whey/casein an hour before that, creatine and BCAA’s in my pwo drink, and I think that’s about it.
I’ve had raw eggs before; I don’t really see why people think it’s so nasty. I stopped because I learned that it’s wasteful of the bioavailability of the albumen (protein). John Berardi really touted the idea of always making sure your eggs are cooked. Furthermore, I’m under the impression that soft yolks are better than hard, especially to the point where green materializes, indicating a collection of sulfur and iron on the yolk.
Ditto for DJS’s comments on Surge. There’s no way to maintain the AD using those, and that’s one downside for sure. However, feel free on the weekend. I use my limited weekend carbs just for the pwo shake, really.
Thanks once again guys!..Im gonna embark on my AD diet on Monday!!..the journey begins!!..
Could somebody give me a good place to get the whole AD info (as written by DiPaquale)? Ive seen the book on Amazon and it costs like £50!!! (about $70!)
OR…
A place to get the step-by-step guide to getting started on the diet (incl foods/ recipes/ training etc…the whole package!!)
Cheers!!
~M~
I have read here that there are E versions on ebay for less then 10 bucks. Also read at least the first 20 pages of this thread.
hey max888
check your message inbox!!
Max, there’s a .pdf of the whole thing circulating. I could ‘tell’ you where to ‘find’ it. Ha.
So I just returned from the gym after havign anticipated this workout all week. 335 5x5 on deads (with straps for those who may ask). Most I’ve ever done up to this point in working sets. I’ve also observed my back strength as demonstrated by deadlifts absolutely crushes the movement chains used in my backsquat.
Everything was great. Final set was a bit scary since I was crossing into that zone of serious quad/ham fatigue that only occurs in really heavy deadlifts. I took my breaths each rep and killed it, all at a weight of 160.
Now it’s time to pull down the scale weight, up the barbell weight, and really stretch that gap.
By the way, in anticipation of this day, I decided to have a more comfortable day in terms of calories, that is, cooking the eggs in oil, using some ranch dressing, cream cheese in with the cottage cheese, etc.
I also made the last two days quite a bit more strict on calories so as to not let today just be some sort of dietary deviation. I figure, you gotta reward your body somehow right? As long as it’s a wise decision…
Hey people, this weekend marks the second month on this diet.
In general I LOVE eating this way and have no intentions on going back.
Where I fucked up, big time, was on the carb ups. I really went crazy. Ice cream, chocolate, etc. I basically blew off about 2 months of hard work.
I started at 180, and my weight usually fluctuates from 173 to 180 through out the week. So I haven’t really had any gains or any losses. I haven’t kept track of body fat, which is unfortunate.
I’m not giving up on the diet, yet, though. If you remember I was doing this without weights trying to lose some fat. Well, in a few weeks I’m going to start up with the weights, so that should be interesting.
As for this weekend and the carbs, I’ve finally got a control on it. Everything is clean clean clean, and it’s really the only way I can go or else I seem to pack on the fat and negate any success I had through out the week.
So fuck it, here I am at 180 again, more or less, and now I finally feel like I’m starting the diet the ‘real’ way.
Good luck everyone, don’t fuck up like I did.
Thanks for the PM Evil1, awesome dude!!
Question: When have you guys found the most optimum time to train on the AD?
DJS gave a good breakdown of his diet and training, and it appears he works out early morning.
Ive got a hectic job in the financial markets, so prefer training in the afternoon/ evening.
Any thoughts on this?
~M~
[quote]Max888 wrote:
Thanks for the PM Evil1, awesome dude!!
Question: When have you guys found the most optimum time to train on the AD?
DJS gave a good breakdown of his diet and training, and it appears he works out early morning.
Ive got a hectic job in the financial markets, so prefer training in the afternoon/ evening.
Any thoughts on this?
~M~
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I think the best day to workout is the day after your carb up ends. Body has stuffed away all those nutrients and is ready to go.
When you work out during the day is personal preference, the diet really has no bearing on this. I work out in the evening always.
[quote]Max888 wrote:
Thanks for the PM Evil1, awesome dude!!
Question: When have you guys found the most optimum time to train on the AD?
DJS gave a good breakdown of his diet and training, and it appears he works out early morning.
Ive got a hectic job in the financial markets, so prefer training in the afternoon/ evening.
Any thoughts on this?
~M~
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Yeah don’t sweat every detail. Just make sure you get your ratios right and don’t go over the 30grm carb limit. Read the book they gave you and this thread and you’ll be good. Are you reading the old anabolic diet, metabolic diet, or the anabolic solution?
I’m asking because there are 4 books on the same diet from the same author. You dont need to read all 4 so dont waste your time. Im asking because the oldest version, “anabolic diet” didn’t contain the 12 day induction phase.
It is recomended that you go a full 12 days before your first carbup.
I also work in in the market. Equities. I work out in the morning only because its the only time i can fit it in. Not because it is optimal. I commute over an hour each way into NYC and have a baby at home so evenings are out if I am ever going to see my family. Gyms around here don’t even open early enough for me to go in the morning so I workout at home.
Good luck! I agree that the best workouts are the first 2 days after your carbup. But i have not had “bad” workouts later in the week as some others have.
On a side note, this is for Max and DJS:
How did you go about getting into the financial sector?
I am finishing an Hons. BBA (finance) w/ econ minor. Have worked in an 2 econ/fin settings as part of the co-op program. 1 more to come.
I really want to get into I-Banking or commercial banking. I don’t really care that it looks bad right now, its what I love.
Any advice? Do I need an MBA? Ivy league>other?
EDIT: Feel free to Pm so that the board doesn’t get cluttered.
Hey guys,new AD-er here. I tried the diet last week but i could only last for 6 days and after that i did an insane carb up. Many fruits,veggies,oats,wheat products,kefir etc I think that some got stored as fat and i decided to give the 12 days a try. I was thinking of doing a 13 day but i think that its not necessary
Today i had my first crash. I was feeling week after my kettlebell workout and i just wanted to sleep the rest of the day. After some time i went to university for a test and when i was in the toilet i spit in the sink and i saw some blood in it.
I took a look at my teeth and i could see them bleeding!!! Thank God it stopped after a while. I also had the psychological factor today where i went out and everybody were making some sweets,my mother bought some halva(tahini and honey sweet),
i saw some pretty tasty recipes at the newspaper and the final hit was my good mother again baking bread and preparing oatmeal. The line “Hey Fotis,have some too!” sent me into my room ready to scream. Anyway i got over it and i will be sleeping shortly so here goes day number 6.6 more to go!
I have made an observation during these days and i would like to share it. I am currently trying to read the whole thread(at page 87 at the moment)and i saw some members complaining about high cholesterol and LDL. I took a look and found out that they were having a lot of eggs.
I have a body that always gives me a response when i eat something high in bad fat,like omelet with many eggs or fried stuff and i can say that while eating eggs i found out that water poached eggs give me no side effect.
After researching a while i found out that thats the best way to eat them,in terms of yolk and white preparation. So try to increase your poached eggs!
Just wanted to say hi! I will be watching this thread and might send a question or two!
Cheers guys!
Fotakou, I don’t know if there’s any correlation, but I noticed in the first week my teeth felt a bit ‘cleaner’ just doing the AD. I attributed it to the fact that sugars, simple or complex, don’t really ever enter your mouth.
Furthermore…with all the beef, I could see that being a reason for bleeding gums. I ate chicken breast again for the first time again last week and was shocked at its consistency. It was like fish in comparison! Beef is definitely a tough meat, especially the thick steaks of bottom round I prepare.