ah, but Bin Laden inspired thousands of followers world wide.
How many world wide terrorist attacks have been influenced by Joseph Kony?
Or by his organization?
How many people would even know who he is?
Are the Taliban real muslims? The Saudis in Arabia? The Shia in Iran? Are al-Qaeda? Hamas? Hezbollah?
Dozens of other terrorist groups across the globe?
If not, then the radicals are clearly in control of their religion !
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
Perhaps you should let the Muslims killing innocents all over the world know this.
But then, I’m sure that it’s all “in self-defense,” right?[/quote]
I was going to respond with some statements pertaining to innocent killing by non Muslims and then a surprising realization came to me. I’m lucky that I don’t have whatever poisonous hatred and fear you have in your heart, and I honestly feel sorry for you. It must be hard to live with that eating away at you so constantly that you jump to make the same fear mongering arguments again and again. It must take a toll on you, and I hope you can overcome it. In a sense, you have allowed the terrorists to beat you, not physically, but beat your spirit by driving fear into it, which is what terror is meant to do. Remember the statement of our former President-
“This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself-nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.”
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
“…Americans 'can’t sit back and tolerate the radical ones simply because we know that there are some of them who don’t believe in that aspect of the Muslim religion.”
I like this statement.
Of course, our local apologist here will say, “If they use violence, they are not REAL Muslims.”
Real convenient, that argument is.
Amazingly, it results in the conclusion that ALL (100%) of the world’s Muslims are peace-loving bastions of tolerance!
Who knew?
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I guess, personally, I figured this was true. I’m pretty sure Christians on this board have been using the same logic.
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Might indeed be.
And I guess we’ll have to let THEM off the hook, too, the next time a “Christian” beheads somebody in the name of Jesus, or blows up a train while quoting the Bible.
Strangly, though, that doesn’t seem to happen quite as often with Christians as it does with Muslims.[/quote]
Yeah, at least not so often in these parts of the world, huh? Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia
I’d guess if you add the numbers up, Muslims take it by a mile, but I wouldn’t want to focus all my hate on only one group, there seems to be plenty of people/things to justifiably hate in this world.
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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
The Ugandan terrorists are a cult not a mainstream religion. No Christian would recognize them.
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Gkhan, you mean that they are not REAL Christians, in the same way that Chushin was speaking of REAL Muslims, right?
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No, I think they are not recognizeable as Christians: A) their leader claims to be the “voice of god”. This is clearly and unmistakeably unChristian–the entire point of the Bible is that Jesus was the only voice of God (was God), and he himself was the ultimate fulfillment of the Prophesies. To claim to speak as the voice of god is to claim eithe to be God according to Christianity, or to be the herald of God, Gabriel. Either clearly inconsistent with LRA claims B) Kony also claims to be a spirit medium–this is completely and diametrically opposed to everything in Christianity–christianity does not recognize ANY spirit mediums except as witches and/or demonic in origin and influence. There are zero references to spirit mediums except in old testament commands to kill, stone, or avoid them. Obviously incompatible with the LRA again. C) the LRA is more akin to a mix of religons, like voodoo. To christianity, that is unthinkable.
I think psychopathic persona cult is much more accurate.
[quote]zahmad wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
Perhaps you should let the Muslims killing innocents all over the world know this.
But then, I’m sure that it’s all “in self-defense,” right?[/quote]
I was going to respond with some statements pertaining to innocent killing by non Muslims and then a surprising realization came to me. I’m lucky that I don’t have whatever poisonous hatred and fear you have in your heart, and I honestly feel sorry for you. It must be hard to live with that eating away at you so constantly that you jump to make the same fear mongering arguments again and again. It must take a toll on you, and I hope you can overcome it. In a sense, you have allowed the terrorists to beat you, not physically, but beat your spirit by driving fear into it, which is what terror is meant to do. Remember the statement of our former President-
“This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself-nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.”[/quote]
Well said, and perfectly on target. The mere mention of the word terrorism has the singular effect of rapidly and entirely eroding from the public consciousness reason, objectivity, tranquility, introspection, even (in some cases) decency. On a purely visceral level, it feels like the right response to the issue–and yet it is also, at the same time, a validation of Terror’s utility.
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
“Fighting must never be against non-combatants or non-fighting personnel.”
Kinda point to you being full of shit doesn’t it?
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
“Fighting must never be against non-combatants or non-fighting personnel.”
Kinda point to you being full of shit doesn’t it?[/quote]
I would respond but it doesn’t matter, you would just be stuck in an infinite loop of link posting.
[quote]zahmad wrote:
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
“Fighting must never be against non-combatants or non-fighting personnel.”
Kinda point to you being full of shit doesn’t it?[/quote]
I would respond but it doesn’t matter, you would just be stuck in an infinite loop of link posting.[/quote]
Only because you refuse to address the main points:
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
[quote]zahmad wrote:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ethics_of_war_in_Islam[/quote]
“Fighting must never be against non-combatants or non-fighting personnel.”
Kinda point to you being full of shit doesn’t it?[/quote]
I would respond but it doesn’t matter, you would just be stuck in an infinite loop of link posting.[/quote]
Only because you refuse to address the main points:
Actually I’ve answered all of those already.
The sooner the “sane” left of the West wakes up and recognizes Islam as the hateful ideology it is the better.