[quote]Professor X wrote:
Old Boy
Foriegn movie made in Asia that despite giant plot holes and “reality discrepancies” that would nail it if it were American, manages to pull off a pretty fucked up and deep story about a man who was kidnapped and held hostage in a hotel room for 15 straight years with no human interaction aside from a tv. He learns to fight watching kung fu movies thousands of times over.
The twist is why he was kept for exactly 15 years.[/quote]
Was this on Netflix?
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Old Boy
Foriegn movie made in Asia that despite giant plot holes and “reality discrepancies” that would nail it if it were American, manages to pull off a pretty fucked up and deep story about a man who was kidnapped and held hostage in a hotel room for 15 straight years with no human interaction aside from a tv. He learns to fight watching kung fu movies thousands of times over.
The twist is why he was kept for exactly 15 years.[/quote]
Was this on Netflix? [/quote]
Yep.
Watch it, love it…hate what it makes you think very intensely about.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, I agree with it being a “masterpiece”, but there is no way American audiences would accept a character like “the villain” in this having enough power to do what he did to the lead without any backstory as to how he got it in the first place.
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Apparently Tom Cruise’s production company has the rights to a U.S remake. I agree totally that they would have to make significant changes to the story in order to make it marketable.
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The bad/good thing is, the twist is so significant, it is a little like the Sixth Sense.
Once you get it…you kind of wish you hadn’t.
I wonder how they could rewrite this and still make it fresh to those who saw the original or heard of it.[/quote]
The twist reminded me of the Greek story of Oedipus. The story is so similar that they had to have used it as inspiration. It’s like a reverse version of it.
The biggest obstacle for a remake IMO is the cultural/ social factor. I don’t know how feasible it is for an (spoilers) American guy kidnapped and imprisoned for fifteen years to come out and snack on a live octopus. It makes sense for the original because octopus is a delicacy in Korea. It worked for this because a guy trapped without luxuries is going to let all of his appetites go wild (and boy did he!)
I think a remake would have more of a torture element to the imprisonment scenes. Like they’d totally deprive him of food then offer him an octopus. That’s the only way I really see it fitting in. (/spoilers).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Old Boy
Foriegn movie made in Asia that despite giant plot holes and “reality discrepancies” that would nail it if it were American, manages to pull off a pretty fucked up and deep story about a man who was kidnapped and held hostage in a hotel room for 15 straight years with no human interaction aside from a tv. He learns to fight watching kung fu movies thousands of times over.
The twist is why he was kept for exactly 15 years.[/quote]
Was this on Netflix? [/quote]
Yep.
Watch it, love it…hate what it makes you think very intensely about.[/quote]
Cool have in my picked to come in by blockbuster. Is it subtitled?
I would recommend “Its kind of a funny story”. Drama but enjoyed it
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wonder how they could rewrite this and still make it fresh to those who saw the original or heard of it.[/quote]
Talking of remakes, have you seen [Rec] and [Rec] 2? Recwas the movie remade in the U.S. as Quarantine, which I know you’ve seen and enjoyed. I saw Rec after I saw Quarantine, based on reviews that the original was vastly superior. I couldn’t see much difference in quality tbh. Quarantine is virtually a shot-for-shot remake (more on that in a tick).*
Rec’s low budget works to its advantage, lending a grittier feel to the story, but Quarantine is more accessible on account of it being shot in English (allows you to empathize with the characters more easily).
You’ll also be happy to know there’s a sequel to Quarantine coming soon. Confusingly, it’s not based on Rec 2:
Rubber -
I haven’t seen it but word is good. It’s about a psychopathic tire with telekinetic powers (nods to Scanners).Trailer looks great:
“This is what the killer looks like” - LOL!
I have to see this now. Curse my slow rental service!
Quarantine 2?
Thank you.
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.[/quote]
Has anyone else watched it yet…because I am dying to discuss the ending.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wonder how they could rewrite this and still make it fresh to those who saw the original or heard of it.[/quote]
Talking of remakes, have you seen [Rec] and [Rec] 2? Recwas the movie remade in the U.S. as Quarantine, which I know you’ve seen and enjoyed. I saw Rec after I saw Quarantine, based on reviews that the original was vastly superior. I couldn’t see much difference in quality tbh. Quarantine is virtually a shot-for-shot remake (more on that in a tick).*
Rec’s low budget works to its advantage, lending a grittier feel to the story, but Quarantine is more accessible on account of it being shot in English (allows you to empathize with the characters more easily).
You’ll also be happy to know there’s a sequel to Quarantine coming soon. Confusingly, it’s not based on Rec 2:
then it’s going to suck
REC 2 is even better than REC. It scared the crap out of me.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.[/quote]
Has anyone else watched it yet…because I am dying to discuss the ending.[/quote]
my take is that grimace he made shows that he may remember all that happened.
The Assignment; Aidan Quinn, Donald Sutherland, Ben Kingsley. Made in 97.
I had never heard of this movie before a video store clerk recommended it. Action adventure, and smart too. Very good.
Tromeo and Juliet; I used to watch a lot of these Tromeo movies and this was my favorite.
Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Ware-rabbit; I love this movie. This is one of my watch over and over again movies, sort of out of place with the usual movies I watch.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.[/quote]
Has anyone else watched it yet…because I am dying to discuss the ending.[/quote]
my take is that grimace he made shows that he may remember all that happened.[/quote]
Or maybe he loves her back and can’t say so?
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
then it’s going to suck
REC 2 is even better than REC. It scared the crap out of me.
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I hate to admit it because I loved Quarantine, but I think you’re right. I saw Quarantine when it was first released in theaters and they really, really screwed up the publicity. As I recall, I really had to dig to find out what it was about. I was close to skipping it completely.
It wasn’t really that profitable, which was more a reflection of unfocused publicity than the quality of the movie itself. They had the balls not to tamper with the source material and it payed off, creatively if not financially. I think they’ve mistakenly assumed that people just didn’t want to watch it and changed tack by writing a sequel from scratch. If they’d have just come out and marketed it as a zombie flick, it would have fared much better.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
then it’s going to suck
REC 2 is even better than REC. It scared the crap out of me.
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I hate to admit it because I loved Quarantine, but I think you’re right. I saw Quarantine when it was first released in theaters and they really, really screwed up the publicity. As I recall, I really had to dig to find out what it was about. I was close to skipping it completely.
It wasn’t really that profitable, which was more a reflection of unfocused publicity than the quality of the movie itself. They had the balls not to tamper with the source material and it payed off, creatively if not financially. I think they’ve mistakenly assumed that people just didn’t want to watch it and changed tack by writing a sequel from scratch. If they’d have just come out and marketed it as a zombie flick, it would have fared much better.[/quote]
Agreed.
If Hollywood hasn’t figured out by now that big budget zombies work, they must be blind.
I loved the first one. I hope they don’t fuck up the next one.
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.[/quote]
Has anyone else watched it yet…because I am dying to discuss the ending.[/quote]
my take is that grimace he made shows that he may remember all that happened.[/quote]
Or maybe he loves her back and can’t say so?[/quote]
i agree on both views, i guess i should start reading the manga.
Another movie about vengeance with an Ambiguous ending that i liked very much was Neighbor Number 13
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
then it’s going to suck
REC 2 is even better than REC. It scared the crap out of me.
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I hate to admit it because I loved Quarantine, but I think you’re right. I saw Quarantine when it was first released in theaters and they really, really screwed up the publicity. As I recall, I really had to dig to find out what it was about. I was close to skipping it completely.
It wasn’t really that profitable, which was more a reflection of unfocused publicity than the quality of the movie itself. They had the balls not to tamper with the source material and it payed off, creatively if not financially. I think they’ve mistakenly assumed that people just didn’t want to watch it and changed tack by writing a sequel from scratch. If they’d have just come out and marketed it as a zombie flick, it would have fared much better.[/quote]
Agreed.
If Hollywood hasn’t figured out by now that big budget zombies work, they must be blind.
I loved the first one. I hope they don’t fuck up the next one.[/quote]
can’t wait for the 3rd one, i just hate any kind of parasite like the end of the 2nd one, it made me sick.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
then it’s going to suck
REC 2 is even better than REC. It scared the crap out of me.
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I hate to admit it because I loved Quarantine, but I think you’re right. I saw Quarantine when it was first released in theaters and they really, really screwed up the publicity. As I recall, I really had to dig to find out what it was about. I was close to skipping it completely.
It wasn’t really that profitable, which was more a reflection of unfocused publicity than the quality of the movie itself. They had the balls not to tamper with the source material and it payed off, creatively if not financially. I think they’ve mistakenly assumed that people just didn’t want to watch it and changed tack by writing a sequel from scratch. If they’d have just come out and marketed it as a zombie flick, it would have fared much better.[/quote]
Agreed.
If Hollywood hasn’t figured out by now that big budget zombies work, they must be blind.
I loved the first one. I hope they don’t fuck up the next one.[/quote]
Let’s focus on the positives: if they do fuck it up, at least you can consider Rec 2 the direct /indirect sequel - that’s what I’m going to do anyway. At the very least, a sequel shows that Quarantine has found an audience on DVD - we’ll have to wait and see if that pays off…
Glad the conversation has rolled around to zombies. It gives me a chance to put up the Day of the Dead remake. This is sort of the deformed child of zombie movies (if you don’t already look on zombie kids as deformed, just misunderstood); it is not a sequel to Zack Snyder’s Dawn of the Dead, but features Ving Rhames in a role completely unrelated to the cop he played in DotD.
Strangest of all, I have never seen anybody else barring Chris Colucci admit to liking this - ever. I only admitted to liking it after I saw him write about it in AngryVader’s movie thread. Safety in numbers and all that. It has been mercilessly slated time after time, to the point that I started questioning my own tastes.
Granted, it’s not the Citizen Kane of zombie flicks, or the Ben Hur of brain eating, and it pushes the super zombie angle slightly too far, but I contend it has been unfairly stigmatized even though Nick Cannon is one of the last people I’d expect to pop up in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. So there.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I’ve heard great things about Old Boy.[/quote]
Has anyone else watched it yet…because I am dying to discuss the ending.[/quote]
Going to take me a couple of weeks I am out of town for work. As soon as I get back I will give my input.
Quarantine made me fucking sick, threw up watching at home on my TV. I dont know if I could watch the second one after that. Cloverfield also did the same thing, to much motion in the filming.
Looks like I was right about the parallels between Oldboy and Oedipus Rex. Found this article which is a great companion piece to the movie:
Spoilers are throughout. Do not read if you haven’t seen it yet!
