Movie Emasculation, Gayness

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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
Rockscar I’m with you. This stuff is bullshit. However, I feel it for different reasons.

In my generation, many of us are ashamed of our bodies. I went to an all boys high school (no I did not catch teh ghey!) and I remember my freshman year I was like “OMGZZZ can’t let them see my weeeenis!” I remember the shower was the fucking scariest thing in high school. The errant erection (which could easily happen from 13-18) had the possibility to ruin your life if you didn’t handle it right.

After three years of getting back to the real world, and playing junior hockey with a bunch of guys who didn’t give a shit because the locker room is the locker room, I’ve been more liberated. I know I have a good body. Not an elite bodybuilder or top member of T-Nation, but I have some size, and I have abs (I rock the Canadian tan, so that doesn’t help me). These kinds of things associate naked men with gayness, laughing, and disgust.

In the 80’s shirtless guys where fucking awesome. Rocky III was gay as hell, but no one cared! Why because it kicked ass. Same thing with some Arnold movies, and Top Gun. It’s okay to have a nice body and kick ass. Way better than showing nudity of out of shape guys to be laughed at and mocked by so many. It’s part of the carryover from the “pussification of america.”

I’m fucking sick of seeing it. I really don’t think it’s funny. The borat thing was funny for 20 seconds… I think I left the room after that, I had to get more food. I really have more a problem with the physical comedy though. Like south park had a great episode where cartman takes a picture of his balls in Butter’s mouth. That’s fucking hilarious.

Talledega Nights had a gay guy in the most intolerant group of fans in sports. My mom and step dad had just moved to North Carolina when I saw the movie. It made it that much funnier. It’s true though, the jokes aren’t as funny, and the nudity sucks. I want to see pussy in movies if they’re going to keep showing dicks.[/quote]

I’m posting this again because no one acknowledged it and I feel I made valid points. If no one cares, feel free to continue.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
“we liberals are trying to stamp out manhood”. Bush alone is the one who made testosterone a “weapon of mass destruction” and he and his father are the reason they are schedule III drugs and are this country’s Most Wanted. Do you even consider that or do you just blame “the liberals”?

For the record, I am not “liberal” and hate these labels to begin with because I think it takes away from the honest discussion of topics.

Fair enough, but is emasulation not a left leaning ideal or right?

I know that the Bush’s classified steroids as drugs, but they can be still be prescribed.

I will consider the liberal lables in future content, but to me the left support of gay marriage points right to the movie content lately. what movies win the major awards lately?? I think the last was Milk, which was highly political.
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Emasculation isn’t happening because of “liberals”. Hell, do you really think most of the men and women in the armed forces are all conservatives? Hardly. I treated quite a number of them and most are from very poor families who didn’t grow up with much at all. Therefore, is it fair to say that we are not even being defended as a country by “conservatives”?

Emasculation is happening because men in general allowed it. It is the same reason fat ugly women think they look good…because desperate men won’t quit fucking them.

The average man in this country is not strong, driven, determined or successful. The average man in this country is whiny, weak, pussy whipped and headed for a dead end job in a cubicle where their decisions are made by their boss and their wife.

Most men don’t have liberals to blame for the lack of real men in society. They have that man in the mirror to hold the weight for that.

I personally don’t care whether gay people get married. It has NOTHING to do with me. This society was fucked long before now and gay people getting married won’t be what kills us off. Our own pride will work just fine for that.

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Rockscar,

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about movies that have female homosexuality in them?

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[quote]Ace Rimmer wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
But… am looking for examples of some clear liberal agenda that is being forced on people as if money isn’t the reason movies are being made.

Isn’t the emasulation of men a liberal agenda item? Isn’t the increase in nudity and homosexual content in movies (Male and female) a tolerance and acceptance push for that, hence a liberal agenda item?

Meaning liberals overwhelmingly support gay marriage, and the increase in the gay content represented in Hollywood therfore pushes that liberal agenda.

Fuck it,gay guys can’t breed and it leaves more rampant chicks for the rest of us!!
Why can’t we have MORE gay guys,so I don’t have to work so hard to get chicks?
I could be on to something here…

I for one support gay marriage.
especially if both chicks are hot.[/quote]

LOL…Ace Rimmer…nice.

But you forget that the girls wish they could have the gay men before you, so you’re second pick!

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Rockscar,

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about movies that have female homosexuality in them?[/quote]

That depends on if they are hot or not. I can approve of images of pussy licking before the the other alternative. Yes it does not equate, but it’s me. I still don’t want my daughter to go gay…even though it may have some benefits for me on the father pregnancy worry front.

And fuck you guys…I haven’t got shit done today!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The average man in this country is not strong, driven, determined or successful. The average man in this country is whiny, weak, pussy whipped and headed for a dead end job in a cubicle where their decisions are made by their boss and their wife.

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Agreed

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

But you forget that the girls wish they could have the gay men before you, so you’re second pick!

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But they can’t have them,rock! they’ll be even hornier by the time they have all these men around them they can’t have,then I walk over to them in the gay bar swinging my dick,shoulder the gay dudes out of the way and throw one over each shoulder and walk off into the sunset…

you’ve got to dream,rock,you’ve got to hold on to that dream,man!!!

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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
Rockscar I’m with you. This stuff is bullshit. However, I feel it for different reasons.

In my generation, many of us are ashamed of our bodies. I went to an all boys high school (no I did not catch teh ghey!) and I remember my freshman year I was like “OMGZZZ can’t let them see my weeeenis!” I remember the shower was the fucking scariest thing in high school. The errant erection (which could easily happen from 13-18) had the possibility to ruin your life if you didn’t handle it right.

After three years of getting back to the real world, and playing junior hockey with a bunch of guys who didn’t give a shit because the locker room is the locker room, I’ve been more liberated. I know I have a good body. Not an elite bodybuilder or top member of T-Nation, but I have some size, and I have abs (I rock the Canadian tan, so that doesn’t help me). These kinds of things associate naked men with gayness, laughing, and disgust.

In the 80’s shirtless guys where fucking awesome. Rocky III was gay as hell, but no one cared! Why because it kicked ass. Same thing with some Arnold movies, and Top Gun. It’s okay to have a nice body and kick ass. Way better than showing nudity of out of shape guys to be laughed at and mocked by so many. It’s part of the carryover from the “pussification of america.”

I’m fucking sick of seeing it. I really don’t think it’s funny. The borat thing was funny for 20 seconds… I think I left the room after that, I had to get more food. I really have more a problem with the physical comedy though. Like south park had a great episode where cartman takes a picture of his balls in Butter’s mouth. That’s fucking hilarious.

Talledega Nights had a gay guy in the most intolerant group of fans in sports. My mom and step dad had just moved to North Carolina when I saw the movie. It made it that much funnier. It’s true though, the jokes aren’t as funny, and the nudity sucks. I want to see pussy in movies if they’re going to keep showing dicks.

I’m posting this again because no one acknowledged it and I feel I made valid points. If no one cares, feel free to continue.[/quote]

you do bring up some good points. 80s machismo died off because it got worn out. I can watch rocky rambo and nearly any Arnold movie all day long, but if someone tried to make a movie in that style now adays i’d laugh and never seen it.

i dont think wussification is as big as people claim. sure emo bands dominate pop music, but the rest is more localized in fashion in other niches. People like to point out that popularity of spiderman ect being skinny is evidence, but i think people just want to see comic book movies, not dream about his 150lb frame. And MMA has helped changed peoples ideal body from 225 and ripped to 185 lean and more athletic looking, i wouldnt call it wussification but its def a trend.

I’d say the biggest evidence of wussification is people still being uneasy, angry, and insecure about seeing nude humans. Its a fucking penis get over it. Do you react that same way every time you take a piss? Are urine troughs at football games gay now becuase odds are because theres dudes with dicks out next to each other?

so theres a penis in the movie boo fucking hoo. This sounds like an issue of insecurity and inadequacy rather than some creeping gay agenda being pushed by hollywood jews from the center of the earth.

and this is largely do to the christian right in their attempt to vilify sex and nudity.

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I nominate ‘Predator’ as a movie so goddamn macho it borders on homoerotic (But not quite,that’s why I love it!) I’ve seen it over 40 times,easily.
There’s like,one woman in the whole movie,who pretty much serves no purpose other than a bit of eye-candy with a subtle bondage/domination fantasy thrown in (She is bound,scared and vulnerable for much of the movie and tossed around like a piece of meat between the guys who have to babysit her)
You couldn’t get away with a movie like this now!
The musclebound cast is stellar-Carl Weathers,Jesse Ventura,Arnold Schwarzenegger and Billy,the native american dude,who all play soldiers in a cocky,tough,cock-swinging army unit.
They never hesitate to get shirtless,swap rude jokes,arm wrestle,spit,chew tobacco,smoke huge cigars,shoot huge fucking guns,carry huge knives,blow shit up,and spout macho dialogue so bad it’s good-

‘What’s the matter Dillon? The CIA got you pushin’ too many pencils?’
The line is delivered by Arnie,as a handshake quickly turns into an arm-wrestle.
‘I ain’t got time to bleed!’
Says wounded Jesse in the middle of a firefight.
‘Knock,knock!’
Says Arnie after kicking open a door and spraying some bad guys with lead.
‘Stick around’
Says Arnie after throwing a knife at a guy so hard it pins him to a post.
Arnie-‘Mack…he was a good soldier’ Mack-‘He was,uh,he was my friend…sir’
An awkward male-bonding scene as Arnie tries to console his sargeant,having seen his friend blown in half.
‘Bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here! this stuff will put hair on your chest guaranteed!
make you a Goddamned sexual tyranasaurras…just like me!’
Jesse,upon all the guys refusing any of his chewing tobacco.

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[quote]Ace Rimmer wrote:
I nominate ‘Predator’ as a movie so goddamn macho it borders on homoerotic (But not quite,that’s why I love it!) I’ve seen it over 40 times,easily.
There’s like,one woman in the whole movie,who pretty much serves no purpose other than a bit of eye-candy with a subtle bondage/domination fantasy thrown in (She is bound,scared and vulnerable for much of the movie and tossed around like a piece of meat between the guys who have to babysit her)
You couldn’t get away with a movie like this now!
The musclebound cast is stellar-Carl Weathers,Jesse Ventura,Arnold Schwarzenegger and Billy,the native american dude,who all play soldiers in a cocky,tough,cock-swinging army unit.
They never hesitate to get shirtless,swap rude jokes,arm wrestle,spit,chew tobacco,smoke huge cigars,shoot huge fucking guns,carry huge knives,blow shit up,and spout macho dialogue so bad it’s good-

‘What’s the matter Dillon? The CIA got you pushin’ too many pencils?’
The line is delivered by Arnie,as a handshake quickly turns into an arm-wrestle.
‘I ain’t got time to bleed!’
Says wounded Jesse in the middle of a firefight.
‘Knock,knock!’
Says Arnie after kicking open a door and spraying some bad guys with lead.
‘Stick around’
Says Arnie after throwing a knife at a guy so hard it pins him to a post.
Arnie-‘Mack…he was a good soldier’ Mack-‘He was,uh,he was my friend…sir’
An awkward male-bonding scene as Arnie tries to console his sargeant,having seen his friend blown in half.
‘Bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here! this stuff will put hair on your chest guaranteed!
make you a Goddamned sexual tyranasaurras…just like me!’
Jesse,upon all the guys refusing any of his chewing tobacco.

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I’ll see your Predator and raise you 13th Warrior.

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
I’ll see your Predator and raise you 13th Warrior.[/quote]

A bold move. What other movie has the in-your-face audacity to cast a heavily-accented Spaniard in the role of an Arab?

I daresay it is surpassed only by Sean Connery playing a Spaniard in the Highlander movie (with Arnie as a commie in Red Heat finishing with a bronze).

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Nah,no swords for me,it’s gotta have guns to be in my top ten.

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And when you die, can I give your gun to my daughter?

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
And when you die, can I give your gun to my daughter?[/quote]

Huh?

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
I have a small rant:

It used to be that the Female was the nude shot, and the men did not need to get gay in order to deliver a good joke. What is up with this crap???

Anyone?[/quote]

I got’s what you need,bro!!

TESTOSTERONE MOVIES!!

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[quote]Ace Rimmer wrote:
BradTGIF wrote:
And when you die, can I give your gun to my daughter?

Huh?
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Ace, watch 13th Warrior and get back to me… You’ll understand

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13th Warrior, now THERE we have a movie. I must have watched it 20 times. To think I originally watched it just because I was curious how Dennis Storhøi would do in an american style movie.

“You can… draw, sounds?”