What other health problems do you have, type 2 diabetes?
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I have no health problems. 20 years ago I got in a dirt bike accident and got pulmonary embolism from it. They were worried I had a lupus coagulant but found I don’t. They say I’m borderline diabetic and I’m borderline with blood pressure. Everything was going great for me till the day my mom passed away suddenly at 58. It fucked me up and lost my libido. I’m not a softy and I hate to offend anyone but she was healthy and young. She got vaccinated and passed away in her sleep. The other reason it got to my head was she had a very hard life and despite being a single mom with no help from anyone she did everything for me, she worked so hard she just started enjoying my family. It hit me and my kids hard.
The primary care put me through to a men’s health specialist. They found my low t and corrected t levels have helped get me through my emotions. I have always worked out off on for years in years off. My gym results are great too. My sex drive and erections are all over the place for 2 years. Been on trt for one year. I used get hard hitting a speed bump too fast. This is sad I never saw this coming.
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I’m having trouble figuring out where to ask a mood based question. It seems I can only reply to other peoples posts not post my own, so I’ll start here.
I am a 53 year old man im 5’8” and 190 lbs. My body fat is about 10%. I was turned on to Test E about 2 years ago and have been blasting and cruising ever since. I never noticed any mood issues, my dosage would go up and down based on bloodwork, clarity of skin, amount of time shirtless, active sex life, and so on.
Recently, about 4 months ago, I got some Masteron, and added that to the regimen. Love that too but did notice some food cravings, sexual cravings, etc.
Long story short, I decided I wanted to try a blast cycle of some compounds, see what works for me. I have access to pretty much everything. Right now, after a ton of research, ive settled on test e 300mg primo 400mg and NPP 180-200mg a week. The primo and test I split in half and do every 3 days or twice a week. The NPP I do EOD at about 50 mg a shot.
What ive noticed is I feel a slight short fuse/annoyed feeling over very dumb things. Also, sometimes I feel sort of uncomfortable in my skin sometimes. In the gym im on fire, but outside of the gym, at work, I feel kind of edgy and uncomfortable.
So my question is twofold:
A. Does anybody have any idea which compound is most likely doing this? My E2 levels are fine. Prolactin is fine. I’m not sure if what I’m feeling is “roid rage” since I’ve never done any before. Or if its the 19-nor mental issues people sometimes talk about. My NPP is pretty low.
B. With everybody having such different experiences from each other with each compound, how do you ever judiciously arrive at one or two that you know are the ones you like? Is it a lot of trial and error? Because every single person in these forums, and I’ve been on a couple, has a different opinion than the person before them. With the exception of some general things that are true for everybody, the rest seems arbitrary.
Anyway, that’s a lot of food for thought. Whoever might read this, Let me know what you think.
This would be my guess. I’ve taken all others in the past and 19-nor compounds are the only ones that caused me similar issues. NPP releases and peaks quickly. Even though your dose is on the low side don’t count it out.
Most certainly. That also goes for dose levels. For example, some guys handle high doses with little to no sides and others get horrible sides from low doses. So compound choice and dose are individual. Some guys get ED from Nandrolone / NPP and others get more horny. It’s all a crap shoot. Nothing worked well for me mentally and also you reach a point where you can’t sustain your muscle without drugs or increased doses.
So I’ve stayed the corse with my ai. My trt is injected Saturday and Wednesday. On those days I take half of a 1mg ai. My total test came to 754 and my estradiol went down to 30.
The day of injection I feel irritated and far from horny but closer to dose I feel perfectly. Also these numbers are the day of my dose so inject and took 1/2 ai after this blood test.
Any thoughts? I feel still up and down.
You seem sensitive to exogenous T, smaller more frequent doses is the answer to your problems.
That peak you’re experiencing is a clear sign your androgens are too high, so lower your dosage as well.
I had the same problem on twice weekly dosing, more frequent dosing was needed.
I’ll bet you’ll feel optimized 550-650 ng/dL.
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You make perfect sense.
Last night was my night off and wanted hot, long sex. Normally I inject as soon as I wake up and take the ai an hour later. Knowing it was going to irritate me and ruin my mood I took the injection after work around 3pm and no ai.
As night went on around 10:30 it was go time. I was able to preform but my mind wasn’t as thirsty as it was the night before. Noticeably less horny with no ai.
I thought the ai was the cause but I understand the estradiol should be “normal”. I figured, if I inject after work and take the ai after sex I’ll preform. I can feel my ai working. Almost feels like a groggy mild hangover.
This seems to prove what you said. The spike in testosterone seems to impact me in a negative way and as the days go my estradiol and testosterone start to come into my “normal” range.
I guess one more jab a week. You think the ai will still be needed? I tried 1/4 of the ai on the injection days prior to these blood tests and didn’t feel a rise in wood or libido.
On days I wake up with a raging wood it’s nothing but sex on my mind. On days no wood or semi I know my night will be boring. I feel so close to having my old self back.
This could also be part or all of the problems with sexual function, libido. AI’s can create large swings in estrogen. This and also injecting exogenous T can further drive your T:E2 ratios far apart right after your injection, recovering days later.
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After searching all over that was the most often answer I found. Take the ai right after or next day… what would be a more stable method?
You can spend weeks researching which method is best, or you can find out for yourself right now. Give both methods a try.
Do what works best for you.
Personally I would stop the AI and lower your dose and inject more frequently.
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This is my goal. I go in to speak the dr about results this week. I’ll give him my story and hear what he says. I’ll experiment and follow up. Thanks for your opinion. It helps hearing what works for people on something as broad as hormones and feeling good.
The dr said he loves my numbers, said it’s only been 30 days with all my numbers being exactly where he likes them. I mentioned injecting less 3 times a week but he said let’s not change anything yet because it takes time. I did start cardio this week, I took my injection and my 1/2 mg of ai same time. All together felt great this week even with horrible sleep and stress.
He also mentioned maybe injecting isn’t best for me due to my sensitivity. But again let’s not jump to conclusions yet. Maybe different T options and he will like to see me off the ai as well so he’s happy about the cardio.
I’m built like one of those strong men, big muscle but pleanty of meat so leaning down a bit with these numbers he thinks will be for the better.