Yeah brick tell us, tell us how your reasonable and open conversation only aids people to commit mass murder in the name of the incel movement.
You should have just called them a stupid incel, told them to go try and get laid, or to talk to women better, and then offered a bunch of examples of how amazing everyone else around you is, and that you should pay attention to their life lessons. lol
Actually on a break now. I Read the article and re-read your book summary. These people appear to be afflicted with some serious pathologies, not just confused, sad, or even angry ordinary men who have difficulty attracting women.
That article tells a highly disturbing, scary story. I actually had a hard time reading it.
As someone who actually helps people that have problems: Isnāt there a huge difference between finding camaraderie with friends and talking about common in interests and venting frustration and sitting around in a grievance echo chamber and maligning some other that made your life this way?
I feel like these guys that create this narrative for themselves are crippling their chances with self defeating ideas. Most guys from age 13-23 arenāt confident, gamefully employed or really⦠grown men yet. These incels arenāt extra unattractive compared to their peers, until they fall down the rabbit hole of bad ideas.
There was a mass shooting in a theater when The Dark Knight hit the screens. The Dark Knight featured The Joker as itās main antagonist. That was in 2008.
This is not some sign that society in 2019 is crumbling. If more people are identifying as INCELs, itās because the term is becoming normalized by the media and opportunists and itās original meaning is being watered down.
It is the same way idiots are identifying as socialists because they believe in government funded healthcare.
When more people are exposed to these ideologies as they become normalized, the chances of real lunatics going down the rabbit hole of the real shit like Marxism, and for INCELs, The Black Pill will naturally be higher.
It appears, in this thread included, that there are two definitions being used. 1) Men who are simply womanless and having a hard time finding a mate, for whatever reasons, and 2) the same as 1, but associating with an online community that includes unhinged people, whacked-out beliefs, and an extreme form commiserating.
Despite a strongman narrative to which most men are inclined, most men know thereās nothing glorious about being womanless.
I said it before and Iāll say it again. If a woman and a family simply were akin to āicing on a cakeā men wouldnāt seek to obtain them considering the investment that is necessary first to get them and second to maintain them. Work, dealing with in-laws, schooling, discipline, recreation, sleepless nights, medical visits, worry, concern, bills, maintaining a household. Yeah, all that for āicing on the cake.ā
I still feel like the people in the second category arenāt trying to actually be with women as weāve discussed multiple times in this thread. If your life is updating the incel Wikipedia and trying to find tons of reasons for why women are awful youāre not involuntarily celibate. Youāve made a choice not to pursue that.
We should probably just be calling them lunatics but then weād lose out on all the fun women hating some seem to love.
I disagree unless you do so and nothing else. Then it is unattractive just like any other addiction. Myself and tons of my friends play video games lots and havenāt had women troubles. My wife wasnāt a game player and now likes to play with me. Expanded to cell phone gaming women are gaming just as often as men. And some people meet and get married because of games like world of Warcraft.
Hell this forum has tons of people who are married and post regularly in the video game forums. 70% of Americans play video games according to google.
Youāre way more likely to have success being a non jackass gamer than you are to espouse the views of women most incels seem to have.
No research but Iād say brain rot is less likely with Mario than with reading comments by white supremacists and women haters.
The ones who own, update and maintain these sites are doing it for commercial reasons.
*I do not like this source and I do not agree with a lot of the writerās opinions.
Iām just using this to illustrate what Iāve been saying throughout this thread:
"āYes, I am an incel,ā āMarquisā ā a cofounder of the suicide and incel forums who says he is 25 and from Virginia ā told BuzzFeed News. He claims the online spaces are dedicated to āhelping people.ā
Marquis said that he managed the forums ālike a businessā ā bringing in very modest revenue ā dealing with issues like servers and finances."
āMarquis told BuzzFeed News on Wednesday that he and his cofounder are both incels and founded sites such as Incels.co, Incels Wiki, Looksmax.me, the Manosphere, and Blackpill.online.ā
As you can see, this is a business they are running. The more hits they get, the more revenue they bring in. Look at how many sites they own. It would directly benefit them if the term INCEL were to be further normalized.