Molyneux on Incels

@BrickHead

Yeah brick tell us, tell us how your reasonable and open conversation only aids people to commit mass murder in the name of the incel movement.

You should have just called them a stupid incel, told them to go try and get laid, or to talk to women better, and then offered a bunch of examples of how amazing everyone else around you is, and that you should pay attention to their life lessons. lol

It didn’t help you so maybe you are right.

Actually on a break now. I Read the article and re-read your book summary. These people appear to be afflicted with some serious pathologies, not just confused, sad, or even angry ordinary men who have difficulty attracting women.

That article tells a highly disturbing, scary story. I actually had a hard time reading it.

Again, I might go over other thoughts later.

One thing is for sure - gaming is a sure fire way to rot your brain cells and make you immediately unattractive to most females.

Yes, yes, I know gaming has expanded and there are more women playing but id’ still say gaming is a real hindrance to attracting a woman.

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Related news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/world/u-s-army-warns-of-possible-incel-shootings-at-joker-film-screenings/amp

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Nothing but extreme dosages of comic book movies and gaming with a sprinkle of toxic masculinity shaming over the top.

Imagine what some of these 18-25 year old guys are like in person lol

I guess i can’t totally blame the women of this generation not wanting to give it up often lol

As someone who actually helps people that have problems: Isn’t there a huge difference between finding camaraderie with friends and talking about common in interests and venting frustration and sitting around in a grievance echo chamber and maligning some other that made your life this way?

I feel like these guys that create this narrative for themselves are crippling their chances with self defeating ideas. Most guys from age 13-23 aren’t confident, gamefully employed or really… grown men yet. These incels aren’t extra unattractive compared to their peers, until they fall down the rabbit hole of bad ideas.

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Just stop normalizing the term INCEL.

Yes, BOTH sides are doing it if anyone wants to start going ā€œbut what about…?ā€

There was a mass shooting in a theater when The Dark Knight hit the screens. The Dark Knight featured The Joker as it’s main antagonist. That was in 2008.

This is not some sign that society in 2019 is crumbling. If more people are identifying as INCELs, it’s because the term is becoming normalized by the media and opportunists and it’s original meaning is being watered down.

It is the same way idiots are identifying as socialists because they believe in government funded healthcare.

When more people are exposed to these ideologies as they become normalized, the chances of real lunatics going down the rabbit hole of the real shit like Marxism, and for INCELs, The Black Pill will naturally be higher.

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It appears, in this thread included, that there are two definitions being used. 1) Men who are simply womanless and having a hard time finding a mate, for whatever reasons, and 2) the same as 1, but associating with an online community that includes unhinged people, whacked-out beliefs, and an extreme form commiserating.

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That’s because the term is being normalized.

You have people like Molyneux to thank for that.

…and don’t realize how lucky they are.

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Despite a strongman narrative to which most men are inclined, most men know there’s nothing glorious about being womanless.

I said it before and I’ll say it again. If a woman and a family simply were akin to ā€œicing on a cakeā€ men wouldn’t seek to obtain them considering the investment that is necessary first to get them and second to maintain them. Work, dealing with in-laws, schooling, discipline, recreation, sleepless nights, medical visits, worry, concern, bills, maintaining a household. Yeah, all that for ā€œicing on the cake.ā€

This year we’re going to have a Mexican Joker =D

Eh? Is that a parody from somewhere? I haven’t heard of it.

South Park .

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It was 2012 Dark Knight Rises which didn’t have the joker as a character.

Minor fix from a Batman nerd here. Completely agree with everything else.

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I still feel like the people in the second category aren’t trying to actually be with women as we’ve discussed multiple times in this thread. If your life is updating the incel Wikipedia and trying to find tons of reasons for why women are awful you’re not involuntarily celibate. You’ve made a choice not to pursue that.

We should probably just be calling them lunatics but then we’d lose out on all the fun women hating some seem to love.

I disagree unless you do so and nothing else. Then it is unattractive just like any other addiction. Myself and tons of my friends play video games lots and haven’t had women troubles. My wife wasn’t a game player and now likes to play with me. Expanded to cell phone gaming women are gaming just as often as men. And some people meet and get married because of games like world of Warcraft.

Hell this forum has tons of people who are married and post regularly in the video game forums. 70% of Americans play video games according to google.

You’re way more likely to have success being a non jackass gamer than you are to espouse the views of women most incels seem to have.

No research but I’d say brain rot is less likely with Mario than with reading comments by white supremacists and women haters.

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There is an extra layer to this, actually.

The ones who own, update and maintain these sites are doing it for commercial reasons.

*I do not like this source and I do not agree with a lot of the writer’s opinions.

I’m just using this to illustrate what I’ve been saying throughout this thread:

"ā€œYes, I am an incel,ā€ ā€œMarquisā€ — a cofounder of the suicide and incel forums who says he is 25 and from Virginia — told BuzzFeed News. He claims the online spaces are dedicated to ā€œhelping people.ā€

Marquis said that he managed the forums ā€œlike a businessā€ — bringing in very modest revenue — dealing with issues like servers and finances."

ā€œMarquis told BuzzFeed News on Wednesday that he and his cofounder are both incels and founded sites such as Incels.co, Incels Wiki, Looksmax.me, the Manosphere, and Blackpill.online.ā€

As you can see, this is a business they are running. The more hits they get, the more revenue they bring in. Look at how many sites they own. It would directly benefit them if the term INCEL were to be further normalized.