YOU call it scientific racism. Just for clarity.
Now youâre disputing what his views are even called. You are his biggest champion at this point. Brick even distanced himself from that poison. Own your hatred, little man.
Goodnight, by the way. Heading to bed. But I love your ability to defend a view and simultaneously distance yourself from it.
youâre calling something âscientific racismâ which doesnât even make fucking sense.
I donât care about Molyneux. I havenât bothered to watch more than a handful of his videos, ever. You need to relax guy. Fly your banner and go on your crusade some other time. Leave me out of it.
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Agreed, drugs are another major factor.
was this some type of revelation? Iâm pretty sure by now everyone knows African Americans or just âblacksâ in general (in some parts of the world saying blacks is racist, just to point that out haha) have had a shitty deal all over the world. didnât need flap to come yell it out though.
I can understand this guy being sensitive and quick to defend said group but when no one else has actually brought this up and he starts calling people âwhite supremacistâ well then I know there is no civil discussion that can be had.
Iâm feeling a 2 medium Dominoâs pizza combo order for $12. Bacon and sausage. Best deal ive seen in a while.
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The âwhite supremacistâ thing is jumping the gun a bit. I donât think there are any real supremacists of any kind on this site. Everyone, no matter their background can be a bit racist sometimes, even without intent.
I think people need to be able to discuss these issues, without fear of censorship. Its up to each individual to make up their own mind on the issue.
I have seen plenty of Stefanâs videoâs. He had a very troubled childhood. Whilst I donât agree with everything he has to say, it has given him a lot of insight into hardship, coming from a single mom family, with an mentally abusive mother. He has an inquiring mind, and is not afraid to apply it to self reflection( which many other people seem unwilling or incapable of doing).
He can come across as a bit racist, or sexist with his tone sometimes, on some subjects. We are all guilty of doing this occasionally. You could say the same about Muhammed Ali regarding racism. In many ways his overt racism against whites was much stronger. However much of what he said on the subject is worth considering, even if you dismiss much of it later. You can still appreciate and respect people you disagree with. Very few of them are all bad.
Well said.
I always find it funny how tense North American caucasians are when this topic comes up. There is so much racism, bigotry, just sheer tribalism in the world that it is obvious this is baked into us as humans but in the U.S with all this âwokeâ shit going on it is impossible to have a conversation.
People arenât able to openly discuss these things without offending or being offended despite the only way forward requiring people to be open to ones own bias and prejudices but no one is willing to do that and so the discussion is never had and progress moves at a snails pace.
LOL this was so bloody obvious I didnât even think it needed to be pointed out. Even in countries where thereâs minimal welfare, itâs always the poorest who have the most kids.
Brick, hereâs the thing about INCELs.
This is not a term used to describe a phenomena pertaining to men not getting laid in society.
It is a MOVEMENT(started by a chick although it has taken on a different path from when she initially started it.), some kind of internet subculture much like MGTOW although itâs a lot smaller and the people in it are a much sadder bunch. And I donât know if you remember this or not, but we had similar views about MGTOW.
Now, if there are people trying to turn this term mainstream and conflate it with the alleged claim that there is a terrible problem with men not getting laid, you can tell that they have obvious motives. Because things like manufactured fear and self-perceived inadequacy sells. It is like fitness gurus telling you that nothing else works and youâre going to remain small on that bro split, call everyone else out for using roids and spreading lies, and use rubbish studies to back up something theyâre selling you.
Seriously, this guy makes a living from talking on youtube. Which means he is selling something. Can you tell me what his actual product is?
I havenât finished catching up on posts, but as of this one of yours, I am the only one to use actual quotes from the video to discuss, which I had to TRANSCRIBE at great effort (womanly art, tho, so it was easier for me, probably, than it would be for the menfolk). No one has responded to those specific quotes. @BrickHead passed over them in favor of accusing people of not even watching the vid. He acknowledged my having watched it, but did not discuss points raised.
So do YOU think the selection process for elementary school kickball is fair?
So letâs imagine that itâs the exact reason. That would not in any way preclude @flappinitâs point, quoted below. But I think itâs nothing to do with welfare and everything to do with Scandinavian people feeling fine about themselves and their sex drives.
âObama on Incelsâ would get a different reception, no? âArnold and Incelsâ yet another.
Good advice: âWatch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. And watch your character, for it becomes your destiny. What we think, we become.â
Yes, well, the rest of feminism is focused on elevating womenâs access to opportunity so that they need neither welfare nor men. Unfortunately or not, depending on whether youâre able to hold something that can escape if it wants, that means women will be more selective.
Am I where it would have landed? Because I donât feel hit. I had a toddler call me âdumb-dumbâ once, and it similarly did no damage. So when the cops come and arrest greenboy, it will be without him having hurt my cheekbone.
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Big boned is big boned. Fat can be lost, bone structure and height cannot. The loud and aggressive can be changed, but you have to first identify that there is a problem. My point is that society is not responsible for making these changes. We can empathize - or not - but one womanâs misfortune in getting a decent man is not something that movements should be built around. Even if there are thousands - millions - of women like my cousin, a movement isnât the appropriate response, nor would blaming it on government policy be. An appropriate response would be to offer access to information that might help my cousin improve herself in order to become more viable in the relationship marketplace.
Why do you look for cultural/political reasons for your difficulties when you KNOW that you were in no condition to attract a healthy relationship at that time? Why not say to the others having issues, âcheck yourself for self-defeating behaviors and patternsâ?
Would you nurture the alcoholicâs bitterness and feelings that heâs been treated unfairly? Would you encourage him to lay in the gutter calling insults to passersby because after all the deck is stacked against him and so itâs not HIS fault heâs a gutter drunk? Or would you suggest personal responsibility in seeking recovery; doing the hard-but-simple things heâd need to do to stand tall?
Do you want him to feel as @greenboy does and suffer the response petulant, embittered people receive? Or would you like your sonâs worldview to be cheerful and open? Because I think your ideology will do more harm to a child than the risk that women wonât find him attractive. What women donât find attractive is simmering, seething anger. Men avoid this in women as well.
This is true and fair. What are you doing, @BrickHead? What is your end game? What is the happy outcome you seek?
This. Do you support my cousinâs view, posted above, that itâs âhard to findâ good guys nowadays? Would you suggest that I encourage her to nurse these attitudes, helping her by finding videos that offer her support in not feeling that itâs worthwhile to bathe, since the deck is so stacked against her?
If you click through youâll find a place to donate money. 
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I have heard it said that men are the greatest contributors to the welfare system and women the greatest recipients. If that is true you may understand why many men resent the welfare system.
Whilst not directly welfare related, it reminds me of the wife of one of my friends. She decided that her husband was the reason for her dissatisfaction in life. He didnât verbally abuse her, let alone hit her. He didnât cheat on hear. He had worked 2 jobs, one of them a nightshift, to provide her and the kids with what they needed. She spent the money on hairbrained courses for investing(that didnât make them any dividends), Anthony Robbins motivational courses. She and the kids went on holidays whilst he had to stay and work.
Now he had to leave the house, find and pay rent for a shoebox sized apartment, whilst still paying off the family house, which he no longer gets to enjoy. Despite not wanting to divorce, he is going to lose everything he worked so hard for. Doesnât sound like equality to me.
I always thought feminism was supposed to be about equality. Apparently its not these days. Woman seem to have been elevated above and beyond men for opportunities. Men donât have the opportunity to bear children, and women donât have the ability to impregnate themselves or each other, so we are going to need each other for the foreseeable future.
Women always need men for something, even if its only for paying taxes so that women can get welfare.
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Thatâs actually one thing I would do.
I would do this.
This.
Hence I can no longer participate in this discussion because of constant assumptions, including yours. I respect what you have to say, including such constructive suggestions. But I find fending off constant assumptions extremely tiresome.
My life changed after I rid my depression, immensely changed for the better. Iâm self-aware enough to see why it did. I have people assuming Iâm going to groom my own kin into pathological thinking and behavior or Iâm going to have Mr. Molyneuxâs statements at the forefront of my mind when meanwhile my more pressing ideas at the moment are his swimming lessons and setting aside enough money for both children to attend the highly-priced pre-STEM summer camp near my house so they can possibly get on the road to being highly-competent people or even possibly nurture a talent.
Plain old showing enough love and attention is also at the forefront.
No, I donât wish to fend off one assumption after another.
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I actually posted what I was going to send Green in that thread after it was requested I do so. If I remember correctly I posted links to material from Democrat Andrew Yang, Tucker Carlson, and another link to the book The Boy Crisis. I donât think these people are radical.
Looking at the explosion of male incarceration rates per capita since the 70s, suicide and drug abuse rates amongst men (and women) on government websites isnât radical either.
It also didnât occur to you that after or during the video I thought to myself, âwell on the flip side, men might not longer be able to afford to be the Al Bundy types I grew up around IRL and being a lazy, uncaring bum isnât going to cut it these days if one wants an alright woman.â
So no, what you said is fair isnât.
Peter Molyneux has already promised to deliver a MUCH better discussion on this topic in the next year, with MANY impressive features.
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Good on you. Seriously. If you prove me wrong, Iâm perfectly happy to know there isnât more radicalization taking place.
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@BrickHead, Iâm off to the farmerâs market and have company coming this afternoon, so I canât respond to your posts right now, or yours, @Beyond_Beyond. I will at some point, though.
Let me throw this out one more time, though, because Iâd love to discuss it:
âWatch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. And watch your character, for it becomes your destiny. What we think, we become.â (No idea who said it
And Iâd also like to drop this here for discussion:
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Iâll check it.