Molyneux on Incels

There are actually societies in which women have few choices: settle with an impoverished man or settle with being a member of a harem of a rich and powerful man. Is this BS?

It’s more than BS, it’s ignorant.

And there are actually societies in which elderly people are revered for their wisdom rather than discarded like trash. So?

That seems to be your best-case vision for America. What we have instead is that women can choose option D) None of the Above. Thank God! For my sake and for your daughters and for all non-hot girls everywhere, thank God.

I think incels needs to stop listening to people who use terms like low status and high status. These weirdos have this strange internet language, and they all sound alike. Think for yourselves you losers.

Explain how it is BS. Prove there are no such examples.

If you’re concerned with helping them, maybe you should.

The burden of proof is on you.

I accept the burden. All one needs to do is look to some Middle Eastern societies.

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Like most intellectually and emotionally weak people, they want confirmation and not the truth.

Such as?

Yes, the almighty and all-knowing Z is operating on a level the average goofus can’t.

Perhaps I should challenge you for some proof. You said my granddad was white when he wasn’t and you said my parents didn’t pay for my education when my mother paid for some it as a single mother. Where’s proof of this? You have some nerve speaking of these family members of mine.

That would be true.

You have proven my point. You threw out an assertion about the Middle East, I asked for proof, and how do you eventually respond? With changing the subject and anger. If you were stronger, you would just admit you pulled that assertion out of your ass rather than respond as you did which, in effect, was just as much of an admission.

You said your grandfather was Jewish, not white. I believe in Judaism it’s passed down on the maternal line, but that’s another matter. Anyway, if you were wanted by the police how would they describe your race (as they define it)? Black, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic?

That goes without saying. I think this is a true statement for most men at some point in their life.

My question related more to the actions of your friend who isn’t having luck. Do you believe he is doing his part to find a woman?

My earlier question that nobody has addressed relates to the utility of thinking about dating under Molyneaux’s framework. Even if everything he says is true, how is it useful? I can’t see how it could possibly help a guy get a date, let alone a second date and so on.

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Oh, what’s going on in this thread? Oh right, exactly what you’d expect


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The grandfather I mentioned was my maternal grandfather and had a typical Middle Eastern appearance, for your information. All my grandparents and both parents are/were Jewish. Where did you get my family tree?

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At some point? at most points. It’s not the guy’s fault. Women disguise their interest in you pretty damn well when they want. Unless the woman is straight forward most guys won’t know.

Let’s say this is true. Do you believe it is incumbent on women to address this problem?

Again, I’m having a hard time understanding the utility of the mindset.

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I think one utility in the video is a simple understanding of modern male-female dynamics. I once read an eye-opening book regarding the matter that is not even a dating “pick up” book that I wish was available to me in my early 20s. I even told my friend that if I had it then, I’d likely have a far easier time, even though there were no dating tips in it.