Molyneux on Incels

Anti-natalism. About time we brought in some Schopenhauer.

I understand. I’ve read your posts on other threads and I know you are a positive person who doesn’t want to get dragged into the mud. More people should think like you.

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I try my best to bring everyone together. We’re already divided enough as is. I try. To no avail it seems.

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Did you watch the video? Any feedback on the points made?

He is a troll who can only respond with tangential comments or outright insults.

There is not a chance he will watch the vid but he will have no problem at all with passing comment on its contents.

I don’t believe there is such a thing as an incel. I don’t believe in looking at women as objects we need to acquire. If men who have trouble meeting the opposite sex kept in mind that women are human beings who can suffer from the same insecurities as they, feel the same pressures from society as they, and don’t exist to fill some void in their lives, they might have more luck. A wife is not part of your life but you are both parts of the same life. Women don’t need men to validate their existence anymore. It’s a good thing because it means men need to work harder and not take things for granted.

And if it’s about sex, then get a hooker.

@BrickHead what Zecarlo means, is nope.

He did not watch the video.

Lol.

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As if you did.

How can you claim there is no such thing as an incel.

It means Involuntary Celibate.

Of course they exist.

As usual, we have reality and then we have Zecarlo ignoring it as it doesn’t fit his world view.

You mean, virgin?

Well I suppose it can mean virgin and it can also mean entrenched inability to form sexual relationships.

What do you think of the lotion of long for a woman and family being ā€œvoluntaryā€. I find this inappropriate because such imperatives are ingrained by nature. Does someone volunteer for a sex drive or desire social connection? I think not.

Do you have a woman? If not, do you want one?

What country do you live in?

The reason humans exist is to procreate.

Zecarlo posits women don’t need male validation as they can now be a care free slut posting on Instagram 24/7 and buying their own designer clothes.

I think this is a sick view.

Men and women need each other in equal amounts, as this is how Nature made us.

Zecarlo believes ideas of Nature are a human construct, hence his entire world view.

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I don’t HAVE a woman, I have a dog. I’m married so I don’t want one, at the moment. What does where I live have to do with anything? I obviously don’t live in the Middle East.

Thanks for explaining that to me. It’s nonsense, of course, but I applaud the effort.

The idea of ā€œhavingā€ a woman is perfectly appropriate, as is a woman having a man.

Part of a relationship is emotional and practical ownership.

My gf, in a way, owns my emotions in a very real sense.

In a practical manner, she can tell me not to go out drinking all night, not to gamble my income away, etc. And I have no issue with her having a direct element of control over me, as that is part of what a relationship is.

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I’m not manly enough to allow someone to own my emotions.

I find companionship and family to NOT be the opposite of celibacy, but quite a more lofty of a goal. If that is the topic, this is not about involuntary celibacy but involuntary bachelorhood; quite different.

However, existence itself is voluntary, so there is that. Birth, though, not as much.

I love my gf so if she is upset or angry or otherwise with me, it affects me emotionally.