Modern Monetary Theory: A Primer

Man, you have to be so hypothetical because the things you believe in are garbage. Can I help where I was born? If I see something that is wrong should I not be vocal about it?

Okay, then where or when did you disagree with their typical workings? Where did you criticize them?

Again, it’s called reading. Does one have to work for them to know their culture or how they operate? Are the stories of Amazon drivers shitting in bags all made up?

There is nothing hypothetical about you leaving the United States. No one is stopping you. People move out of the country all the time.

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You keep going back to that one incident out of many.
You interpreted that graph wrong completely anyway. Even the article you quoted it from said differently

You don’t actually think your trading is free do you?

You have no idea what my everyday “grind” is like.

Look, I’m not the type to brag, but suffice it to say I am absolutely not even the slightest bit envious of you. I can’t imagine a better work life balance than what I have, making the money that I make (significantly more than you), with all of the perks that I enjoy.

You have the strangest concept of corporate life because you’ve never experienced it and you believe every horror story you read on Comrades.commie.

Reading is great, but you have to actually be able to comprehend what you’re reading and be able to determine if it’s real. You lack both of those abilities.

It’s kinda helpful to have worked for a business to know their corporate culture, ya… But, I wasn’t even talking about a specific business. I was speaking more broadly about your absurd statement about a few individuals at the top being “kings and queens”. You would understand how ridiculous that is if you had worked even 5-minutes at a real job.

I doubt they’re made up, but you don’t even know why the drivers said they shit in bags and that is your main issue. You skim headlines and go off on tangents. You rarely have even a small percentage of the facts and often conflate issues. Like you just did…

Why would I just randomly disagree with or criticize a company or industry on here? That’s not how conversations work. But at any rate, I know I’ve criticized Lockheed Martin and the F35B program on here. I’m almost positive I’ve explained how much I loathe hedge funds. I’ve certainly shown my support for small businesses over companies like Wal-Mart and Amazon on here. I even, gasp show my support by shopping at local mom and pop and even co-ops…

I disagree with how corporations are run all the time. I disagree with treating them like individuals (Citizens United). I think growing wealth disparity is problematic. I think UBI is almost certainly an inevitability and probably a better alternative to all of our current social programs. I support a government healthcare option for the poor. Should I continue?

Try asking people questions about what they believe instead of calling them dumb because they know money doesn’t grown on trees.

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But you don’t have too. You could go live in the woods or farm your own plot of land. Or join a hippie commune where they do that.

It’s especially easy to emigrate if you are single. But you are also in late middle age and have no skills (which countries rate you on as a potential immigration candidate), so no other country wants you and the rest of us are stuck with you and your myopic, sophomoric views.

In your mind you have escaped. But you are contributing to the very system you supposedly hate. You’re a walking contradiction. Not surprised no one can stand to be around you.

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Like any extremist asshole, any other view than their own is absolutely reprehensible.

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Could be. People make up shit to try and “go viral” all the damn time.

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In a larger worker co-op only very few are still making decisions. You can’t have a ton of chiefs and few Indians in any endeavor or it collapses quickly.

It depends. Corporations - large ones are owned by tons of shareholders that have a say whether it be monetary or voting rights. Basically like a worker co-op… lol.

One bad business deal can easily wipe out high 7 figures. I am nuts, but I also live in a different world than you.

I never said you were educated, so I am not sure why you are thanking me.

Yes, so you feed off the capitalist evil system you despise and rail against - LOL. That must be a hard one to swallow for you.

Oh I would give @castoli711 something alright. :nerd_face:

I doubt he can even imagine that kind of money. Because he has never been in business he doesn’t know that deals worth 8 and 9 figures (at least) are made daily.

Hell, the product I work on, just one unit sells in the 9 figure range.

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You have to sell a lot of gin and Tonics to see even a few thousand :joy::rofl:

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The real one?

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That and another within the real one :full_moon_with_face:.

Some worker co-ops are structured like that however, the member/owners can fire them if they do not like the job they are doing. Not the other way around. The many hire and fire the management. The management doesn’t hire and fire the workers.

And what should be said of the worker co-ops who are exclusively horizontal in their structure and also successful?

And the more shares someone owns the more say that they have. So no not like a worker co-op. As a side note CEO’s are getting anywhere between 300-400 of their typical worker. In almost all worker co-ops this is capped at 8 1/2 times. Another thing not like a worker co-op. Did they not teach you that at Wharton?

No, but you admitted that one doesn’t need to go to college to be educated.

Not really, I could make it in any system, if I can make it in this garbage one.

And the members / owners are few in large co-ops lol.

And what worker co-op of any notable size would that be? Mondragon does not fit this at all.

This is not always the case.

They taught me plenty like how to actually make money. You still haven’t figured that out and you are like over 50.

Also, not all worker co-ops are capped at 8.5 times.

Okay, and? You can also go to college and be an idiot. I don’t see where this is going.

Our system is literally one of the easiest in the world to make it in.

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I highly doubt it.

You could go join the Maasai people - they are very communal and skilled hunter gatherers.

You would get eaten by a lion on the first hunt though.

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Says you.

Ah no! Everyone in a worker co-op is an owner. There may be a hierarchy of management but they can be fired by the workers, not the other way around.

And how are you defining this? No Mondragon is a cluster of co-ops. The head of management, the last I looked, were only paid 8 1/2 times the worker. Not 300-400 like corporations.

Most of the time. Care to share examples of when this is not the case? Are these businesses outliers?

Most are. Care to share examples of when this is not the case? Do they come close to 300-400 times like corporations?

You like to cite degrees and education a if one doesn’t have a degree what they are saying i bunk.

If they buy in and there are tiers…

Owned by the Eroski Cooperative that is owned by workers and shareholders… Why I told you a long time ago you might want to look at Mondragon a little closer.

When your ownership does not have voting rights - this is very common. Do you think every person that buys stock on an exchange gets to vote on the businesses direction? LMAO, no, they do not.

Anyone in the real world is going to laugh at a nobody with no formal education or achievements of note or any achievements really preaching about how corporations and government should be run.

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