If the car is part of the evidence,why the police didnt just take the car??
or the toy cat??
besides all the media circus, and been a daddy now, i can understand why they are doing what they are doing, but still think if this were a not so “nice and posh” family will the media covering in the same way???
dont take me wrong I hope they find her alive, but hundreds of kids dissapear everyday and you dont heard from them in the 10 o’clock news.
soldiers die everyday and you just heard of them once.
what is so special about this case,that got everybodys attention???
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Current rumor has it that the parents sedated all three kids, then went out for a night on town. The father of the “missing” child is either a cardiologist or a medical consultant of some kind. He would have access to “medication” to ensure his children slept soundly. So there is no chance of them waking up in the middle of the night from a scary dream or to get a glass of water and find mommy and daddy have deserted them.
Looks like the dosage may have been a bit too high this time for Madeleine. So, in desperation, they hid her body, set up the room for the faked abduction, and called the police. In all the excitement, the other two children would never be checked for any substances.
The police have found forensic evidence, but cannot give details. [/quote]
The above quote was a paraphrase from a supermarket tabloid, and does not reflect my opinion on this case.
IMO, the only thing the parents are guilty of is leaving their children alone. This is incomprehensible to me. As a parent of three grown children, I would never, EVER leave my young children alone under any circumstances, especially while travelling.
I don’t understand why they didn’t take a nanny or a trusted babysitter along on their holiday, if they wanted some adult time alone. The parents rationalized their decision, and checked in on the kids every 10 minutes. A lot can happen in ten minutes. And they paid a terrible price for neglect.
Abduction/kidnapping, or a lost child is the number one worry of parents travelling with small children. These were educated, professional people. Didn’t this fact cross their minds?
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Current rumor has it that the parents sedated all three kids, then went out for a night on town. The father of the “missing” child is either a cardiologist or a medical consultant of some kind. He would have access to “medication” to ensure his children slept soundly. So there is no chance of them waking up in the middle of the night from a scary dream or to get a glass of water and find mommy and daddy have deserted them.
Looks like the dosage may have been a bit too high this time for Madeleine. So, in desperation, they hid her body, set up the room for the faked abduction, and called the police. In all the excitement, the other two children would never be checked for any substances.
The police have found forensic evidence, but cannot give details.
The above quote was a paraphrase from a supermarket tabloid, and does not reflect my opinion on this case.
IMO, the only thing the parents are guilty of is leaving their children alone. This is incomprehensible to me. As a parent of three grown children, I would never, EVER leave my young children alone under any circumstances, especially while travelling.
I don’t understand why they didn’t take a nanny or a trusted babysitter along on their holiday, if they wanted some adult time alone. The parents rationalized their decision, and checked in on the kids every 10 minutes. A lot can happen in ten minutes. And they paid a terrible price for neglect.
Abduction/kidnapping, or a lost child is the number one worry of parents travelling with small children. These were educated, professional people. Didn’t this fact cross their minds?
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Thanks for the infos Yo Momma, and I totally agree about leaving kids alone, that was the dumbass thing to do.
However, that blood in the car thing seems to point in a rather more gruesome conclusion. I’m not condemning them, but it doesn’t bode well for them.
you are assuming that the blood in the car is real, and not some bullshite made up by the port. cops to force a confession - a bluff. or a stuffup. or dna contamination. or any of a number of things.
$10 says the kid was kidnaped into a white slave ring and $5 says the police were in on it, because that crap goes on all the time, but this time, it grabbed headlines
I haven’t followed this case one bit, but after reading most the posts on this thread, I know exactly what happened. It’s pretty complex so bear with me… ok, this is what happened… THE GIRL WAS FREAKING ABDUCTED.
Geez Louise. The parents were out with a group of friends. They wouldn’t be able to find the girls body and hide it in a foreign country in the brief time they had.
Besides, If the girl died from an overdose in her sleep, the parents probably wouldn’t even notice when they checked on her. They wouldn’t have known until the morning.
And the blood in the car 25 days later? Yeah, right.
Why was only one child abducted? Why was there no ransom demand?
In cases like this it is usually a parent or caretaker that is found to be responsible.
Not saying for sure that the parents did it but there is a good chance they did.
The whole blood in the car 25 days later seems hard to fit with any theory.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Why was only one child abducted? Why was there no ransom demand?
In cases like this it is usually a parent or caretaker that is found to be responsible.
Not saying for sure that the parents did it but there is a good chance they did.
The whole blood in the car 25 days later seems hard to fit with any theory.[/quote]
One child is all that was wanted. collecting a ransom was not the purpose of the abduction.
Usually it is the parent or caretaker but not this time. There’s little chance they did it.
How could the girls blood get in the car they didn’t even rent until 25 days later? When they moved her body?? In a foreign country? With all eyes on them? And, blood isn’t exactly going to spread or drip 25 days later. Body parts might be falling off but blood ain’t drippin. The girls blood WAS NOT in that car.
This case sounds like it’s even worse than the Ramsey case. In this case it looks like the police are either trying to plant evidence or they are pretending to have evidence to coerce the parents into confessing. The police have no leads, so they are just hoping they can pin it on the parents.
I wonder how many people out there still believe the Ramseys killed JonBenet? I bet it’s at least 50/50.
[quote]on edge wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Why was only one child abducted? Why was there no ransom demand?
In cases like this it is usually a parent or caretaker that is found to be responsible.
Not saying for sure that the parents did it but there is a good chance they did.
The whole blood in the car 25 days later seems hard to fit with any theory.
One child is all that was wanted. collecting a ransom was not the purpose of the abduction.
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Who is they? For what purpose? How did they know the child was alone? It all seems unlikely.
Kids do get kidnapped and murdered by people other than parents and caretakers but it is usually a local psycho that has had time to observe and plot. I don’t know if that type of opportunity was here.
I agree with this. Even if the parents were guilty it makes no sense that the blood would be in a car rented 25 days later.
Perhaps they did. The evidence is pretty mixed. I know this is still debated by those closest to the case but they mostly lean away from parental involvement.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
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They? You mean the sex predator who abducted her. For all I know, he had time to observe them. They may have been there for a few days and they may have been doing the same nightly ritual for several days, I don’t know. A predator could have just made a quick, unplanned grab, too. That would still be more likely that these parents doing it in this circumstance.
Think of how hard it would be for you too hide a small body from your house so no one can find it, not even dogs. Now think how hard it would be to do it while on vacation in a different country. Add to that, your with a group of friends and you have to pull it off right under their noses with no time to plan.
Ahh, I’m glad your beginning to see it my way now…
I don’t know what approach the police took, but, in addition to looking at the parents, they should have been investigating anyone who had an opportunity to observe the family at the hotel. Especially employees and associates of the hotel. This would have given the best chance of finding the girl.
Oh yeah, regarding the Ramsey case. The evidence overwhelmingly points to a intruder killing JonBennet. While the police ignored this clear evidence and focused their attention on Pat Ramsey, they let shady suspects go free.
Do a Google search on “Jon Bennet” and “suspects” and read about some of these guys they didn’t investigate. You will shit your pants. These guys are all dead now, so we’ll never know which one did it.
Abduction could be for adoption or child sex ring. Abductions in the area have happened before. No ransom note required.
I didn’t realise this before, but the parents were only suspects and given a horrific 11 hour questioning session AFTER the parents initiated legal action against the portugese police for leaking incriminating defamatory comments to the press regarding the parents.
The portugese judge threw the port. police case out of court because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE against the parents.
Portugal = moron police who in my opinion, might be in on the child abduction ring. I would not be surprised. Nobody can be that incompetant, they must be corrupt. Or maybe they are incompetant. Who knows.
One thing we know that girl is gone.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Abduction could be for adoption or child sex ring. Abductions in the area have happened before. No ransom note required.
I didn’t realise this before, but the parents were only suspects and given a horrific 11 hour questioning session AFTER the parents initiated legal action against the portugese police for leaking incriminating defamatory comments to the press regarding the parents.
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Things are different in Portugal. In our terms they were probably suspects all along but in Portugal they had to be officially named suspects.
true things are different, and “suspect” is also a different status than what we are used to
however, they did not seal off thecrime scene after the crime, it got heavily contaminated = incompetant