He should only get life in prison. After all the death penalty is flawed, and he could be innocent. I mean who are we to take the life of another. A humane society does not illicit the use of the death penalty that is for barbarians. How does taking away this person’s life solve anything. The death penalty is not a deterrent. We need to study him to try to understand why he did what he did, that way we may be able to prevent it.
All that is liberal, elitist, bullshit.
Anything less then the death penalty for someone taking a life is actually devaluing human life more then any other action.
The death penalty is about justice period. It is the exact opposite of the bullshit listed above.
Anyone who does not support it in cases where it is clear cut that the person is guilty is ridiculous.
Events that take place like this ruin my day. I hope the bastard gets what he deserves. I have such a passion for all forms of life know matter how big or small. I’m all for the cowboy days of an eye for an eye. We would save alot tax dollars! My wife and I just had our first child. Knowing people this this still walk the earth makes my watching over him more protective and aware of my surrounding.
[quote]jarvis wrote:
Dweezil wrote:
It seems to me that multiple trained rifleman aiming for the head would kill someone faster and with less pain than an electric chair (barbaric) or a lethal injection (which we’ve seen fail horribly in Florida).
I thought that the firing squad was supposed to be an ‘honourable’ form of execution given to the military and government/ royal officials. That’s pretty far removed from what that guy should get.
Putting the fucker in Gen Pop may get him killed but it would hardly serve to foster an environment of positive re-habilitation for the other inmates serving time there.[/quote]
America tried rehabilitation, and it didn’t work. Now we are in the retribution, and “just deserts” period of corrections.
[quote]solafide55 wrote:
He should only get life in prison. After all the death penalty is flawed, and he could be innocent. I mean who are we to take the life of another. A humane society does not illicit the use of the death penalty that is for barbarians. How does taking away this person’s life solve anything. The death penalty is not a deterrent. We need to study him to try to understand why he did what he did, that way we may be able to prevent it.
All that is liberal, elitist, bullshit.
Anything less then the death penalty for someone taking a life is actually devaluing human life more then any other action.
The death penalty is about justice period. It is the exact opposite of the bullshit listed above.
Anyone who does not support it in cases where it is clear cut that the person is guilty is ridiculous.
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You had me there! I felt some anger coming on reading the start of your post. Then you went and made it all better.
[quote]solafide55 wrote:
He should only get life in prison. After all the death penalty is flawed, and he could be innocent. I mean who are we to take the life of another. A humane society does not illicit the use of the death penalty that is for barbarians. How does taking away this person’s life solve anything. The death penalty is not a deterrent. We need to study him to try to understand why he did what he did, that way we may be able to prevent it.
All that is liberal, elitist, bullshit.
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It’s certainly not elitist. It’s probably not actually the viewpoint of very many liberals either.
The only point there which may have merit is that studying the perpetrator could actually provide insight to future prevention.
However, given my comments on this thread, let me be clear. The world would be better off without this type of bastard in it, so I’m for getting rid of him.
The alternative is to spend taxpayer money to wait for him to die.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
America tried rehabilitation, and it didn’t work. Now we are [/quote]back[quote] in the retribution, and “just deserts” period of corrections.[/quote]
I heard a taped interview with him from 1991, where he pleaded for “help” and basically said he would continue to be with children. I don’t know the timeline, but he was released then and allowed back in the population. I heard that on Mancow…he played a tape of the guy…don’t know if it was an interview for the media, or the police.
[quote]tgatl wrote:
Events that take place like this ruin my day. I hope the bastard gets what he deserves. I have such a passion for all forms of life know matter how big or small. I’m all for the cowboy days of an eye for an eye. We would save alot tax dollars! My wife and I just had our first child. Knowing people this this still walk the earth makes my watching over him more protective and aware of my surrounding.[/quote]
I have a soon-to-be 6 year old daughter. The part about Jessica clutching her little toy dolphin while that beast threw the shovelfuls of dirt on her hit home. Too much empathy I guess.
Common sense tells me to let the justice system deal with him, but the anger inside of me would have had a tough time not ripping this piece of shit to shreds right in the courtroom.
[quote]vroom wrote:
solafide55 wrote:
He should only get life in prison. After all the death penalty is flawed, and he could be innocent. I mean who are we to take the life of another. A humane society does not illicit the use of the death penalty that is for barbarians. How does taking away this person’s life solve anything. The death penalty is not a deterrent. We need to study him to try to understand why he did what he did, that way we may be able to prevent it.
All that is liberal, elitist, bullshit.
It’s certainly not elitist. It’s probably not actually the viewpoint of very many liberals either.
The only point there which may have merit is that studying the perpetrator could actually provide insight to future prevention.
However, given my comments on this thread, let me be clear. The world would be better off without this type of bastard in it, so I’m for getting rid of him.
The alternative is to spend taxpayer money to wait for him to die.
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I can appreciate your position Vroom. This person is most likely the scum of the earth and most likely doesn’t have anything to contribute to society in any way.
Having said that, I still cannot support the death penalty because we cannot end that punishment. A prison sentence can be ended via release, but death is permanent.
I’d rather be cautious and leave this man (and others like him) sitting in a cell for the rest of his life. But on the very tiny chance that he (or others like him) did not commit the crime (or possibly because he is mentally defective, etc.) the punishment could still be ended.
A death penalty to me means that we have judged this man absolutely because we are taking everything and every possibility away from him without the possibility of return. I can’t judge a man absolutely because I’m not omnipotent.
I have a soon-to-be 6 year old daughter. The part about Jessica clutching her little toy dolphin while that beast threw the shovelfuls of dirt on her hit home. Too much empathy I guess.
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Damn, that is just hard to read. Envisioning that in my mind makes me want to cry, punch my monitor, and then lash out in anger.
But I guess I’ll just sit here and lose even more faith in humanity. Which is gettin’ tough to do because I don’t have much faith left.
I have a soon-to-be 6 year old daughter. The part about Jessica clutching her little toy dolphin while that beast threw the shovelfuls of dirt on her hit home. Too much empathy I guess.
Damn, that is just hard to read. Envisioning that in my mind makes me want to cry, punch my monitor, and then lash out in anger.
But I guess I’ll just sit here and lose even more faith in humanity. Which is gettin’ tough to do because I don’t have much faith left.[/quote]
Don’t lose faith. This is one case where we all have a lot in common. We as humans still know right from wrong.
Keep the faith, we need people to rally around the victims of such heinous crimes (and to maybe kill the killers).
[quote]Addicted wrote:
I heard a taped interview with him from 1991, where he pleaded for “help” and basically said he would continue to be with children. I don’t know the timeline, but he was released then and allowed back in the population. I heard that on Mancow…he played a tape of the guy…don’t know if it was an interview for the media, or the police.[/quote]
Too bad he wasn’t locked away forever in 1991.
I think when it comes to molesting kids it should be one strike and you are out. Of course the law would be abused so I should be the only one capable of making that decision.
[quote]Easy E wrote:
Im against the death penalty for these types of people. Its too quick of a death for them…[/quote]
ditto that. that whole part where they talk about the girl clutching her dolfin makes me just about lose it. my sister is that age and if anything like that happened to her, that guy would wish he was never born than to deal with me. the death penalty is too nice to them.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
In all actuality though, there is no punishment that anyone could administer that would be enough.[/quote]
Bingo. No matter how much suffering he endures, the little girl is still dead for no fucking reason. I say we take it out on the perpetrator, and show him the meaning of pain. It may not fix anything, but it would make me feel a hell of a lot better about the situation.
Don’t worry he’ll get whats coming to him - I’d post pictures of what they do to people like that in prison but this site probably can’t handle content like that.
Let’s just say you have to look around the prison cell to find where the “rapists” dick is laying.
[quote]rsg wrote:
Don’t worry he’ll get whats coming to him - I’d post pictures of what they do to people like that in prison but this site probably can’t handle content like that.
Let’s just say you have to look around the prison cell to find where the “rapists” dick is laying.[/quote]
The idea of that happening to that POS makes me feel a whole lot better!