Melanotan I & II Info Sticky

[quote]InTheZone wrote:

Fwiw, I have already recieved several pm’s regarding said info thanking me for putting it up there. Some people lurk and wouldn’t have known about this as easily as they do now.

So I think that is the equivalent of “helping people”.
Good enough for me.[/quote]

Have you ever done something because it was the right thing to do, or do you live your life by how popular an action will make you?

Don’t answer. The truth is more than evident in your post.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Oh wow you read some info. No shit it is the premier site.
This one follows very closely the same opinion and protocols also rj. It’s just a hell of a lot more condensed and easier to read through.

Unlike you, I have been a member of that board, and intimately involved with melanotan I, II, and PT 141 for over two years. I did not do 3 weeks worth of MT, decide I am a fucking expert and start googling shit.

The difference between the MT website and yours - it’s not a copy/paste job. It is the source.

If you think your copy/paste job is better, fine. But if you want to ask questions, and get answers from the real deal, you are not going to get it from a fucking bro board copy and paste.

I didn’t intend to insult your fragile little ego. I mentioned the message board because…get this…I wanted to help these guys and not wave my dick around about how fucking “condensed and readable” a copy/paste job is.

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And I never, ever, said I had decided I was an expert on the topic did I?

You are a liar.

See? That’s how you usually preface your childish rants, you find one tiny lie about said flavor of the month and call them a liar. Well touche back at you bonehead.

Thanks for attempting to ruin a helpful thread as has already been noted by two different guys right here.

You pummel away with your thoughts some more now while the thread continues to provide assistance to other people regardless.


= rainjack & tone

you guys are the best…

I vote for this to be a sticky. It is a topic that is often brought up in this forum - and has as much right to be stickied as prohormones or abscesses or test tapers (or slin which we need)

I think it is pretty sad it was removed from sticky due to the request of one member - no matter who the member was. this isnt their forum, it is ours. All of ours… the majority.
Without us, there would be no forum for the moderators to moderate and if the people want this stickied then i would have thought it should be…

Just my opinion of course… :wink:

[quote]koots wrote:
= rainjack & tone

you guys are the best…[/quote]

Please Koots. Lol.

[quote] Brook wrote:
I vote for this to be a sticky. It is a topic that is often brought up in this forum - and has as much right to be stickied as prohormones or abscesses or test tapers (or slin which we need)

I think it is pretty sad it was removed from sticky due to the request of one member - no matter who the member was. this isnt their forum, it is ours. All of ours… the majority.
Without us, there would be no forum for the moderators to moderate and if the people want this stickied then i would have thought it should be…

Just my opinion of course… ;)[/quote]

Thanks Brook, that brings the tally to

Yes-4
No-3

The suspense is killing me, lol.

[quote] Brook wrote:
I vote for this to be a sticky. It is a topic that is often brought up in this forum - and has as much right to be stickied as prohormones or abscesses or test tapers (or slin which we need)

I think it is pretty sad it was removed from sticky due to the request of one member - no matter who the member was. this isnt their forum, it is ours. All of ours… the majority.
Without us, there would be no forum for the moderators to moderate and if the people want this stickied then i would have thought it should be…

Just my opinion of course… ;)[/quote]

Nothing has a “right” to be a sticky. What the fuck are you even talking about?

How do you know it was just one member who thought the idea of a sticky for a single peptide was a stupid idea?

You don’t.

Maybe a sticky for peptides in general would not be a bad idea, but having a sticky in the steroid forum of a bodybuilding site for one peptide that has no muscle building properties whatsoever is stupid idea.

Just when I think you can’t possibly be any more clueless and stupid…you post in here.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Oh wow you read some info. No shit it is the premier site.
This one follows very closely the same opinion and protocols also rj. It’s just a hell of a lot more condensed and easier to read through.

Unlike you, I have been a member of that board, and intimately involved with melanotan I, II, and PT 141 for over two years. I did not do 3 weeks worth of MT, decide I am a fucking expert and start googling shit.

The difference between the MT website and yours - it’s not a copy/paste job. It is the source.

If you think your copy/paste job is better, fine. But if you want to ask questions, and get answers from the real deal, you are not going to get it from a fucking bro board copy and paste.

I didn’t intend to insult your fragile little ego. I mentioned the message board because…get this…I wanted to help these guys and not wave my dick around about how fucking “condensed and readable” a copy/paste job is.

And I never, ever, said I had decided I was an expert on the topic did I?

You are a liar.

See? That’s how you usually preface your childish rants, you find one tiny lie about said flavor of the month and call them a liar. Well touche back at you bonehead.

Thanks for attempting to ruin a helpful thread as has already been noted by two different guys right here.

You pummel away with your thoughts some more now while the thread continues to provide assistance to other people regardless.[/quote]

I think that someone who makes a sticky on this forum (well, really any forum) should be much more knowledgable on the subject than your average person.

I think that by making a sticky, you inherently make the claim of being somewhat of an expert.

(I’m only reading this because I feel sort of responsible for this discussion as I recently bumped one of these threads and started taking MTII).

[quote]InTheZone wrote:

Thanks for attempting to ruin a helpful thread as has already been noted by two different guys right here.
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More with the popularity contest, huh?

I would wager the other MT thread has helped countless more than just two guys.

But since the thread wasn’t your idea, we need your copy/paste skills to show us all how powerful you are.

[quote]Christine wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Oh wow you read some info. No shit it is the premier site.
This one follows very closely the same opinion and protocols also rj. It’s just a hell of a lot more condensed and easier to read through.

Unlike you, I have been a member of that board, and intimately involved with melanotan I, II, and PT 141 for over two years. I did not do 3 weeks worth of MT, decide I am a fucking expert and start googling shit.

The difference between the MT website and yours - it’s not a copy/paste job. It is the source.

If you think your copy/paste job is better, fine. But if you want to ask questions, and get answers from the real deal, you are not going to get it from a fucking bro board copy and paste.

I didn’t intend to insult your fragile little ego. I mentioned the message board because…get this…I wanted to help these guys and not wave my dick around about how fucking “condensed and readable” a copy/paste job is.

And I never, ever, said I had decided I was an expert on the topic did I?

You are a liar.

See? That’s how you usually preface your childish rants, you find one tiny lie about said flavor of the month and call them a liar. Well touche back at you bonehead.

Thanks for attempting to ruin a helpful thread as has already been noted by two different guys right here.

You pummel away with your thoughts some more now while the thread continues to provide assistance to other people regardless.

I think that someone who makes a sticky on this forum (well, really any forum) should be much more knowledgable on the subject than your average person.

I think that by making a sticky, you inherently make the claim of being somewhat of an expert.

(I’m only reading this because I feel sort of responsible for this discussion as I recently bumped one of these threads and started taking MTII).
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This guy has been an attention whore long before you bumped the MT thread, Christine.

Well as someone in the research stage of AAS I wouldn’t see a reason for this particular topic to require a sticky.

I did a quick search and melatonin had 260 results on here… gyno 1020… injection 1160… “first cycle” 1170. Those are the things that are imperative for people to have instant access too, the rest they can search for in my opinion.

I like both parties here lol… just agree with rainjack of the sticky or not subject.

[quote]rainjack wrote:

Maybe a sticky for peptides in general would not be a bad idea, but having a sticky in the steroid forum of a bodybuilding site for one peptide that has no muscle building properties whatsoever is stupid idea. [/quote]

X2

[quote]Christine wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Oh wow you read some info. No shit it is the premier site.
This one follows very closely the same opinion and protocols also rj. It’s just a hell of a lot more condensed and easier to read through.

Unlike you, I have been a member of that board, and intimately involved with melanotan I, II, and PT 141 for over two years. I did not do 3 weeks worth of MT, decide I am a fucking expert and start googling shit.

The difference between the MT website and yours - it’s not a copy/paste job. It is the source.

If you think your copy/paste job is better, fine. But if you want to ask questions, and get answers from the real deal, you are not going to get it from a fucking bro board copy and paste.

I didn’t intend to insult your fragile little ego. I mentioned the message board because…get this…I wanted to help these guys and not wave my dick around about how fucking “condensed and readable” a copy/paste job is.

And I never, ever, said I had decided I was an expert on the topic did I?

You are a liar.

See? That’s how you usually preface your childish rants, you find one tiny lie about said flavor of the month and call them a liar. Well touche back at you bonehead.

Thanks for attempting to ruin a helpful thread as has already been noted by two different guys right here.

You pummel away with your thoughts some more now while the thread continues to provide assistance to other people regardless.

I think that someone who makes a sticky on this forum (well, really any forum) should be much more knowledgable on the subject than your average person.

I think that by making a sticky, you inherently make the claim of being somewhat of an expert.

(I’m only reading this because I feel sort of responsible for this discussion as I recently bumped one of these threads and started taking MTII).
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Well let’s look at the 6 stickies we have in this forum.

Certainly 3 of these people would qualify in my opinion as experts or much more knowledgeable than the average Joe.
That would be;

Prisoner-Injection pain sticky
Schwarzenegger-Test Taper Protocol
Warhorse-Original Newbie Sticky

then you have 3 others which are questionable to consider as “experts” or more knowledgeable than the average guy on the subjects. Furious George being an exception perhaps imo.

Prohormones-Makavali
Gyno sticky-DevilDog
Steroid Newbie cycle Planning-Furious George

So considering that, and how two of these have copy and pasting in their contents, I am not sure you are correct in your attempt to discredit myself and this topic when compared to two of the above posters and their respective stickies.

This is going by your reasoning, I personally have nothing against the other two stickies in question and the posters who put them up. I consider them quite useful, as this one is also.

[quote]63longroof wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Maybe a sticky for peptides in general would not be a bad idea, but having a sticky in the steroid forum of a bodybuilding site for one peptide that has no muscle building properties whatsoever is stupid idea.

X2
[/quote]

Valid point to some degree, however…

That would certainly be one HUGE thread though if you really think about it. Way bigger than any of the others, and too much info at that point to be feasible.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
63longroof wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Maybe a sticky for peptides in general would not be a bad idea, but having a sticky in the steroid forum of a bodybuilding site for one peptide that has no muscle building properties whatsoever is stupid idea.

X2

Valid point to some degree, however…

That would certainly be one HUGE thread though if you really think about it. Way bigger than any of the others, and too much info at that point to be feasible.
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IGF.

MGF.

GHRP-6 (maybe)

MT

Yeah - that would take a shitload of copying and pasting for you, huh?

So you’re saying that beginning a thread with 4 separate posts describing each peptide would just be too much for you? Or are you assuming that everyone else just can’t process that kind of information?

I can explain the basics of the IGF, MGF, and the MT in one paragraph each.

Maybe - just maybe - if you don’t know enough about the subject matter to keep it short and sweet you should reconsider the notion of starting a sticky in the first place.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
So considering that, and how two of these have copy and pasting in their contents, I am not sure you are correct in your attempt to discredit myself and this topic when compared to two of the above posters and their respective stickies.

[/quote]

I am not attempting to discredit anyone, but I do believe that if something is important enough for a sticky, then the sticky should be prepared by someone who has more knowledge than the average person on the subject.

Just because it was done so in the past, doesn’t mean that it should have been allowed.

Even when cutting and pasting, the person preparing the sticky needs the ability to discern credible information from the crap. If the person preparing the sticky isn’t somewhat of an expert, they may not know what ‘crap’ to look out for. They might not know if the cut and paste job has anything in it that might be controversial or be aware of some alternative views on the subject.

The information you posted may be 100% accurate. But how do you know that if you are a novice on the subject yourself?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
63longroof wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Maybe a sticky for peptides in general would not be a bad idea, but having a sticky in the steroid forum of a bodybuilding site for one peptide that has no muscle building properties whatsoever is stupid idea.

X2

Valid point to some degree, however…

That would certainly be one HUGE thread though if you really think about it. Way bigger than any of the others, and too much info at that point to be feasible.

IGF.

MGF.

GHRP-6 (maybe)

MT

Yeah - that would take a shitload of copying and pasting for you, huh?

So you’re saying that beginning a thread with 4 separate posts describing each peptide would just be too much for you? Or are you assuming that everyone else just can’t process that kind of information?

I can explain the basics of the IGF, MGF, and the MT in one paragraph each.

Maybe - just maybe - if you don’t know enough about the subject matter to keep it short and sweet you should reconsider the notion of starting a sticky in the first place.
[/quote]

Of course you could explain in basic terms the basics of those in a paragraph each, no shit. But you certainly couldn’t go into the detail that people need when it comes to interactions of the drugs, and protocols, side effects etc in one paragraph.

[quote]Christine wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
So considering that, and how two of these have copy and pasting in their contents, I am not sure you are correct in your attempt to discredit myself and this topic when compared to two of the above posters and their respective stickies.

I am not attempting to discredit anyone, but I do believe that if something is important enough for a sticky, then the sticky should be prepared by someone who has more knowledge than the average person on the subject.

Just because it was done so in the past, doesn’t mean that it should have been allowed.

Even when cutting and pasting, the person preparing the sticky needs the ability to discern credible information from the crap. If the person preparing the sticky isn’t somewhat of an expert, they may not know what ‘crap’ to look out for. They might not know if the cut and paste job has anything in it that might be controversial or be aware of some alternative views on the subject.

The information you posted may be 100% accurate. But how do you know that if you are a novice on the subject yourself? [/quote]

Wow. You obviously don’t know much about it, and you don’t know me from a hole in the wall, yet you’re going to jump in on rj’s trainwreck and put your opinion of what should be stickied in the steroid forum too?

Ok.

Look it’s obviously not going to be a sticky, you folks aren’t that worried about it are you?

Like I said a while back I’m continuing the “tally” basicly for shits and giggles and to see what the rest of the REGULAR forum posters think. No offense Christine.

So, stop sweating it and getting all dramatic about the topic for christ’s sake. RJ said plenty for people to get his opinion on it, let the other people read this for any help they might get from it now, and if anyone feels like indicating how decent it is for a sticky status or how not, then they can say so.

It’s not that big a deal like I said before to me.

Jesus.

[quote]Scott M wrote:
Well as someone in the research stage of AAS I wouldn’t see a reason for this particular topic to require a sticky.

I did a quick search and melatonin had 260 results on here… gyno 1020… injection 1160… “first cycle” 1170. Those are the things that are imperative for people to have instant access too, the rest they can search for in my opinion.

I like both parties here lol… just agree with rainjack of the sticky or not subject.

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Thanks Scott, I appreciate you having the balls to say in front of a certain someone that you actually “like” me.

You’d be surprised how many friends I have who might not agree with rj, but don’t want to get him going on them and for that reason stay out of the muck. Yes there are some people, even INTELLIGENT people who like me.

Amazing.