Maybe SOME Good News from the FDA

Never happened as I didn’t receive a phone call only a link to a video. So it wasn’t pursued.

Do you know what cancer is? Its really just any type of cell tissue that was replicated improperly and is deformed.

So take a bunch of viable unassigned cells, like stem cells- and inject them into your body. Just to a layman like me, that looks like injecting cancer directly into your body.

So there is an element of time to this. Lets see how it takes after those cells replicate a thousand times over, and make sure that people don’t start bubbling up wiith cancerous tumors all over the freakin place.

A friend of mine had an experimental surgery done to try to treat a severe OCD. It was the implantation of a deep brain stimulator to interrupt a signaling cycle between two parts of his brain. Think like a cross between a pacemaker and the thing that Michael J. Fox has. Going in, he was fully educated of the risks. Risk being not that it wouldn’t work, but death. He was the fourteenth person to have this procedure done, and of those three had previously died within a short time after the procedure. That is a pretty high risk of death. It went pretty well for him. His OCD had subsided to a manageable level and he started to feel pretty darn good. Then one night something went wrong. He called a couple of people and said that something was wrong, but couldn’t describe it.

Then he was dead. Me and a friend of mine that knows enough about neuroscience speculated that maybe one of the electrodes came loose and disrupted the wrong signaling path. We’ll never actually know because he donated his body to the institution that performed the procedure, but thats about as good a guess as any.

So the point of that little anecdote is that experimental medical treatments can be extremely high risk. Until the risks and results can truly be known, do you really want to implement a treatment with unknowable long term results across an entire population? I mean, hey! That treatment my friend got worked to varying degrees for 10 other people. Lets do that for everybody!

Why can’t we get deep brain stimulators implanted for what ever!?!

It must be a cabal that is keeping this treatment from people. Drug companies would lose money or something!

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The end of the quackery. The Truth About Cancer: A Global Quest - Episode 9

What is the ‘truth’ about cancer? The link is very short on specifics.

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A documentary on other treatments besides chemo, radiation and surgery.

We already have treatments for cancer that often kill those victims before the cancer. It is called chemo/radiation and surgery. This is the standard main treatment. Because this treatment often kills the people who are effected by cancer rather than the disease itself I’d assume you are against it. If so or not explain your position. Stem cells have already proven to help tens of thousands of people positively but you want to keep them from that choice because we don’t clinically know for sure the results in the U.S. Well we don’t scientifically know the results of medical marijuana but it has positively helped over a million people. I suppose you’d want to keep that choice from them as well. Big Pharma was behind the campaign to keep it illegal. Why? Because it works better than their drugs and they know they can’t compete. Well if they can’t compete, maybe they shouldn’t be in business. Information on chemotherapy and it’s effects on cancer patients.

Why back non-toxic treatments of cancer when you can poison and burn people inside and make billions.

Curious, at what point do you consider a treatment not to be experimental?

And furthermore are “healthcare” system, in it’s treatment of chronic/degenerative diseases is based on profits first and everything else is second. The name of the game is profits over people. The sooner this is realized the better off everyone will be. Marijuana became legal because the people demanded it, not because Big Pharma helped too push it through because they saw how it was helping people. It threatened their profits so they fought it until the writing was on the wall.

Ya, I mean, why would we want to study stem cell treatment…?

https://old.cancer.org/acs/groups/cid/documents/webcontent/003215-pdf.pdf










^^ Good post.

Note that the above complications are associated with ‘allogeneic’ treatments.

And that ‘autogeneic’ treatments appear much more promising, in all applications.

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GVHD only occurs when getting stem cells from someone else, moron. Which is what the main thrust of this article is about.

Good point. That is where most of the studies and applications are done. It is like the difference between embryonic and adult stem cells. Worlds apart.

You really are the dumbest fucking person I’ve ever encountered. It’s not even close. Fuck, you’re stupid.

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I can assure you that, on the front lines of healthcare delivery, this is not true.

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Trolling, trolling, trolling, keep the comments trolling.

I have no clue about cancer research and know that people have been saved due to surgical procedures when cancer has been caught early. I’m sure I could even find medical journals, research, and websites that aren’t therealnewz or thetruthaboutcancer. But keep going you’re on a roll!

I’m stupid. You are the one who posted irrelevant information.

Then why did Big Pharma attempt to keep medicinal marijuana from becoming a reality? And are currently keeping cellular medicine off the list of choices?

Some people have been saved but they are the exception not the rule. Keep the “therapy” going as it makes billions of dollars but helps very few.

I specifically referred to the “front lines of healthcare delivery.”

No, you’re fucking stupid. The link covers a wide range of topics:

I get it, though. Reading is difficult.

Hi Zep,

[quote=“Zeppelin795, post:339, topic:224450”]
A lack of double-blind randomized studies is often cited as a reason. But where are all those studies for medicinal marijuana? Medicinal marijuana is legalized in 28 states plus D.C. It is giving relief to over 1MM people. Should they have continued to suffer until science caught up?[/quote]

That’s an excellent question, and we can discuss marijuana laws some other time, but for now I suggest that we please focus on our original topic. I think it’s likely that our views would be significantly more aligned on that subject than the present one, though I know even less about marijuana legislation than I do stem cells (if that’s even possible).

I did read your articles, and to be frank I’m not sure what to make of them. I’d consider their contents more indicative of a one-way street than a revolving door (they only tracked FDA → Pharma employment, from what I recall), and I also don’t see evidence of collusion presented.

Did they establish whether the individuals they tracked went on to work for the same companies whose applications they approved? Did the individuals they tracked demonstrate a tendency to approve applications from their future employer at a higher rate? Is there evidence that the submissions were not reviewed responsibly prior to approval?

Would it be fair to say that your general view is that, once employed by the government, an individual relinquishes the right to seek employment in the private sector unless they change careers entirely?

So you aren’t privileged to the decision making process?