[quote]PB Andy wrote:
this thread’s about to get de-railed. i can feel it. [/quote]
Only if you all let it.
I mean, let’s get serious. Everyone here with the same argument can shut this shit down real quick by speaking up when this happens.
These threads get derailed because every jackass troll with a keyboard jumps into debates just to start shit…like what happened just yesterday and the days before.
If you all want it to stop, then tell them to stop.
It doesn’t matter what I post at this point. These same fuckers are looking for ANYTHING to bitch about and will keep this up as long as people keep acting like this shit is fun.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
this thread’s about to get de-railed. i can feel it. [/quote]
Only if you all let it.
I mean, let’s get serious. Everyone here with the same argument can shut this shit down real quick by speaking up when this happens.
These threads get derailed because every jackass troll with a keyboard jumps into debates just to start shit…like what happened just yesterday and the days before.
If you all want it to stop, then tell them to stop.
It doesn’t matter what I post at this point. These same fuckers are looking for ANYTHING to bitch about and will keep this up as long as people keep acting like this shit is fun.[/quote]
I find it all amusing. If it is bothering you that much, STOP RESPONDING TO PEOPLE. It’s as simple as that. Don’t respond to any post that you feel is argumentative or trolling. That includes this post! But to be fair, this post is pretty straight up and in no way am i trolling here or trying to argue with you for the fuck of it. Just a suggestion
Well since this thread has mentioned the zercher thread, I might as well throw in my two cents about it:
It’s my opinion that, in the first place, what X was trying to say about zerchers was pretty much misinterpreted and taken out of context. He never said that they were a worthless exercise and serve no purpose for anybody, he was trying to say that they don’t serve a purpose for HIM and wouldn’t be smart with all of the heavy bicep work that he does. While it wouldn’t be as much force acting on it as, say, a bicep curl, there would still be some force, and he’d prefer to not take the risk when he has already injured the tendon and better leg exercises exist FOR HIM (this would be like me opting for chest-supported rows over barbell rows after deadlifts because of back issues). That’s really it; he was NOT saying that nobody should ever do zerchers. I mean, come on, do you honestly think that a guy with his experience would be narrow-minded enough to say that shit like that is inherently bad? That would be like me ragging on marathon running because it serves no purpose for powerlifting. That discussion in no way warranted all of the flaming that he got. It’s like no one can appreciate people giving their no bullshit opinions.
It honestly seems like people just jump the gun and don’t even bother trying to clarify what he says so they can insult him. X never personally attacks people that don’t act like asses. You may not like his tone, but you don’t have to like him. I don’t have anything against anyone at all on this site or even IRL for that matter; I don’t believe in hate. But, I do believe that the majority of the posts in that thread were inane, uncalled for, and downright fucking stupid. BTW I read every single page of that thread, so I’m not just talking out of my ass.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
this thread’s about to get de-railed. i can feel it. [/quote]
Only if you all let it.
I mean, let’s get serious. Everyone here with the same argument can shut this shit down real quick by speaking up when this happens.
These threads get derailed because every jackass troll with a keyboard jumps into debates just to start shit…like what happened just yesterday and the days before.
If you all want it to stop, then tell them to stop.
It doesn’t matter what I post at this point. These same fuckers are looking for ANYTHING to bitch about and will keep this up as long as people keep acting like this shit is fun.[/quote]
I find it all amusing. If it is bothering you that much, STOP RESPONDING TO PEOPLE. It’s as simple as that. Don’t respond to any post that you feel is argumentative or trolling. That includes this post! But to be fair, this post is pretty straight up and in no way am i trolling here or trying to argue with you for the fuck of it. Just a suggestion [/quote]
You are one of those trolls. What have you contributed here of value? Ever? I am not avoiding all forums just because guys like you want to follow me around. Yeah, not responding is easy…when it is ONE OR TWO people involved…but that ain’t happening. Half the fucking board acted like they couldn’t understand english in that thread. Buckeye girl insulted me for NO reason when I have never had a conflict with her ever in the several years I have.seen her post here.
If the fucking OP understood what I meant and wasn’t offended, then what the fuck do stronghold, you, heavythrower or anyone else have to fucking do with it?
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Well since this thread has mentioned the zercher thread, I might as well throw in my two cents about it:
It’s my opinion that, in the first place, what X was trying to say about zerchers was pretty much misinterpreted and taken out of context. He never said that they were a worthless exercise and serve no purpose for anybody, he was trying to say that they don’t serve a purpose for HIM and wouldn’t be smart with all of the heavy bicep work that he does. While it wouldn’t be as much force acting on it as, say, a bicep curl, there would still be some force, and he’d prefer to not take the risk when he has already injured the tendon and better leg exercises exist FOR HIM (this would be like me opting for chest-supported rows over barbell rows after deadlifts because of back issues). That’s really it; he was NOT saying that nobody should ever do zerchers. I mean, come on, do you honestly think that a guy with his experience would be narrow-minded enough to say that shit like that is inherently bad? That would be like me ragging on marathon running because it serves no purpose for powerlifting. That discussion in no way warranted all of the flaming that he got. It’s like no one can appreciate people giving their no bullshit opinions.
It honestly seems like people just jump the gun and don’t even bother trying to clarify what he says so they can insult him. X never personally attacks people that don’t act like asses. You may not like his tone, but you don’t have to like him. I don’t have anything against anyone at all on this site or even IRL for that matter; I don’t believe in hate. But, I do believe that the majority of the posts in that thread were inane, uncalled for, and downright fucking stupid. BTW I read every single page of that thread, so I’m not just talking out of my ass.
Cliffnotes:
This is what I got from his posts too. It was pretty clear to me.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
I think it’s funny (not funny haha, funny queer) that X makes one post and Marzouk’s thread about him leaving turns into a thread about X. You don’t like him, ignore his posts. Nah, that’d be too easy. It’s better for the site to derail thread after thread instead :\ .
I spend a decent amount of time on this site but read more than I post. I’ve had a good amount of disagreements with X in plenty of threads and at this point even with that history I’d agree with him on the point of people arguing with him for the sake of arguing with him.
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So, what you’re saying is that when YOU argue with him (like you just did in that thread about Hugh Jackman eating 6,000 calories a day) it’s completely justified, but everyone else that argues with him just does it because they’re assholes?
I’m just trying to figure out the criteria here. : )
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
this thread’s about to get de-railed. i can feel it. [/quote]
Only if you all let it.
I mean, let’s get serious. Everyone here with the same argument can shut this shit down real quick by speaking up when this happens.
These threads get derailed because every jackass troll with a keyboard jumps into debates just to start shit…like what happened just yesterday and the days before.
If you all want it to stop, then tell them to stop.
It doesn’t matter what I post at this point. These same fuckers are looking for ANYTHING to bitch about and will keep this up as long as people keep acting like this shit is fun.[/quote]
I don’t know what goes on in the BB forum b/c I have about as much interest in BB as I do transsexuals. I trust you’re there giving advice. Great. However, in the zercher thread, you took an unnecessary slap at someone’s “development” while at the same time dismissing a movement you had no experience with. You’re like some size queen, dismissing anyone that disagrees with you that isn’t as big as you. It’s stupid and intellectually dishonest.
So, am I hating on you too, even though I’ve repeatedly given you credit for your progress (I do)? Or do people “hate” on you because sometimes you’re just more than disagreeable a lot? I can be a disagreeable prick sometimes too (maybe more than sometimes). You (and I) are about as subtle as a hammer over the head. But with that territory comes what you’re getting. You want the shit to go away? Change your tone (I can use the same advice). You take a tone that grates on people, then want to cry foul when you get the response that it always solicits.
The only thing “old” around here is your tone…it hasn’t changed in 10 years (yes I was here in the beginning too).
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Well since this thread has mentioned the zercher thread, I might as well throw in my two cents about it:
It’s my opinion that, in the first place, what X was trying to say about zerchers was pretty much misinterpreted and taken out of context. He never said that they were a worthless exercise and serve no purpose for anybody, he was trying to say that they don’t serve a purpose for HIM and wouldn’t be smart with all of the heavy bicep work that he does. While it wouldn’t be as much force acting on it as, say, a bicep curl, there would still be some force, and he’d prefer to not take the risk when he has already injured the tendon and better leg exercises exist FOR HIM (this would be like me opting for chest-supported rows over barbell rows after deadlifts because of back issues). That’s really it; he was NOT saying that nobody should ever do zerchers. I mean, come on, do you honestly think that a guy with his experience would be narrow-minded enough to say that shit like that is inherently bad? That would be like me ragging on marathon running because it serves no purpose for powerlifting. That discussion in no way warranted all of the flaming that he got. It’s like no one can appreciate people giving their no bullshit opinions.
It honestly seems like people just jump the gun and don’t even bother trying to clarify what he says so they can insult him. X never personally attacks people that don’t act like asses. You may not like his tone, but you don’t have to like him. I don’t have anything against anyone at all on this site or even IRL for that matter; I don’t believe in hate. But, I do believe that the majority of the posts in that thread were inane, uncalled for, and downright fucking stupid. BTW I read every single page of that thread, so I’m not just talking out of my ass.
Cliffnotes:
you’re forgetting his second post wherein he basically said “if that’s the development you get from zerchers no thanks” (I’m paraphrasing but will be happy to get the actual quote) to a kid that just zerchered 400lbs (no easy feat). it was an unnecessary swipe and it had absolutely no merit. He later apologized - about 13 pages later.
you’re forgetting his second post wherein he basically said “if that’s the development you get from zerchers no thanks” (I’m paraphrasing but will be happy to get the actual quote) to a kid that just zerchered 400lbs (no easy feat). it was an unnecessary swipe and it had absolutely no merit. He later apologized - about 13 pages later. [/quote]
I am pretty sure he just wrote that he read ALL pages of that thread.
I am also wondering how you will now avoid any off color comments about anyone since something like me noticing someone else’s development is so bad.
You see, I did apologize…but here you are…bringing it back up…as if it matters in the first place.
So, we can count on ZERO snide remarks or insults from you to anyone else on the board from here on out…right?
