[quote]therajraj wrote:
I was pointing out the fact that thunderbolt was so quick to see the “humour” in those tweets.[/quote]
Good Lord, I personally didn’t see any humor in those tweets at all. Pathetic.
Can we get some reasonably intelligent left-wing types around here? Please? This is pitiful.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Blaming Christianity for the weird (and possibly untrue) musings of idiots on Twitter? Give me a break. [/quote]
I am blaming Christianity and co for being the major contributor to the anti-gay sentiment in the US and the parts of world. Do I literally have to tie Christianity directly to these tweets for you to pick up on the over-arching issue I’m trying to point out to you? Are you really that blind?
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
I didn’t mention “the Good Book” at all in my post. That’s called a straw man Captain Reason.[/quote]
sigh
Are you not a Christian? Are you not in agreement with the majority of Christians that homosexuality is indeed a sin?
I am asking YOU a CHRISTIAN to take a deeper look at what you are doing when preaching parts of your sacred texts. Preaching against homosexuality does a lot more than just keeping gay marriage down.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
I don’t find any humor in it at all - I think it’s disgusting. But I also know that people love to generate attention on social media by saying wildly inappropriate things simply for the sake of the shock value. And I have no reason to believe that these posts were indicative of any one being serious.[/quote]
Again this misses the point.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Well, you’re confused and have no idea what you’re talking about, so I am not that worried about it. I think the comments on Twitter - whether serious or joking - are atrocious, but my point was that citing to tweets as “evidence” of some legitimate sentiment in society of wanting to kill infants they learned were gay is perhaps the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
Clear enough?[/quote]
Twitter, the new research journal.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Can we get some reasonably intelligent left-wing types around here? Please? This is pitiful.[/quote]
It’s very difficult. I can count on one hand the number.
No, Raj, you’re not one of 'em. You’re a “flailer.” Whether or not you get pats on the back from other lefties for your “contributions” here you simply are NOT worthy as a serious, articulate thinker. You do NOT advance liberal ideas; if anything you are an impediment to them. Your above posts are evidence.[/quote]
So…who would be? Am I? Prolly not.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I am blaming Christianity and co for being the major contributor to the anti-gay sentiment in the US and the parts of world. Do I literally have to tie Christianity directly to these tweets for you to pick up on the over-arching issue I’m trying to point out to you? Are you really that blind?[/quote]
A person isn’t blind because they don’t see something that isn’t there, genius. You provided the Tweets as evidence of some social sentiment to commit…infanticide against children that were somehoe determined to be gay.
I pointed out that was idiotic - a bunch of foolish “tweets” doesn’t prove anything except some people use social media to say all kinds of stupid stuff.
As such, there is absolutely no connection between the tweets and whatever larger point you were trying to make about Christianity being complicit in violence against gays.
A red herring to my point. As for my stance on gays, let me guess - you haven’t read through my posts in this topic have you?
Here is the thing, dumbass - you have no idea what I “preach”, where I preach it from, or how I reference “my sacred texts”. All these idiotic presumptions aren’t getting you anywhere. So, I ask - why are you trying to sermonize to me on “preaching against homosexuality” when you have no idea if I have “preached” against that or not?
No, it doesn’t - you flatly stated that I somehow found humor in those posts. Don’t try and change the subject now that you’ve been made to look a moron.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
So…who would be?..
[/quote]
Being a serious credible leftie takes some seriously hard work. Of course I’m biased but I pity the person that is compelled to justify much of the rubbish that comes from the left wing. So much of it IS fundamentally flawed, inherently weak and historically proven inept.
In a way I and other “righties” have such a huge initial advantage it’s almost unfair; it’s kinda like a 245 lbs heavyweight boxer getting in the ring with a featherweight. The little guy may be a superb fighting specimen with oodles of technical experience but the big guy is going to almost effortlessly win every time.[/quote]
lol a right wing swinger, the thought makes me laugh every time 
Then clarify for me your stance.
Are you a Christian or belong to another religion?
What is your stance on homosexuality?
Do you hold any texts sacred? If so which?
Based on reading some of your prior posts I got the impression you were as I described above. SPeak up now, if I incorrectly misrepresented you as a Bible loving Christian who considers homosexuality a sin i’ll admit I’m wrong.
I’ll be back a little later to discuss religions impact on the anti-gay culture around the world, specifically Christianity. Right now have work to do.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Then clarify for me your stance.
Are you a Christian or belong to another religion?
What is your stance on homosexuality?
Do you hold any texts sacred? If so which?
Based on reading some of your prior posts I got the impression you were as I described above. SPeak up now, if I incorrectly misrepresented you as a Bible loving Christian who considers homosexuality a sin i’ll admit I’m wrong.[/quote]
I’ll do this much - (1) I am a Christian, and (2) I have a number of friends who are gay. Sorry, the world isn’t as reductionist as you would like for your color-by-number arguments.
As for the rest, if there is anything my religion has taught me, it’s that there’s no reason to cast pearls before swine, so I have no interest in going further with you on those topics, it’d be a waste - and just in case you’re confused, you’re the swine in this analogy.
Will your arguments be supported by such gems as collections of random tweets by anonymous social media users?
It cracks me up when people say homosexuality is a choice. Who would chose a lifestyle of ridicule?
I peg the guy as a bible loving Christian conservative and he displays this indignation as if I’m somehow misrepresenting him. LOL. Also excellent work avoiding my question about your stance on homosexuality.
I can see I would be wasting my time.
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
It cracks me up when people say homosexuality is a choice. Who would chose a lifestyle of ridicule?[/quote]
Politicians do it.
Anchormen and women do it.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I peg the guy as a bible loving Christian conservative and he displays this indignation as if I’m somehow misrepresenting him. LOL.[/quote]
The issue was that you tried to “peg” without anything to “peg” onto. You had a troop of straw men as far as the eye could see, when my only point was to note that your “evidence” in support of your point was no evidence at all.
And you did misrepresent me, out of the gate - you had no basis to presume all the things you did. I am not personally offended by it - I just think you’re an idiot who will continue to have to have arguments explained to you over and over (like the tweeting nonsense, Good Lord), and I don’t have that kind of time.
I didn’t avoid it - as I referred you earlier, you can do a search if you like, it’s out there, there’s nothing to avoid. My stance on homosexuality simply didn’t have anything to do with my point, or your erroneous presumptions.
Well, you wouldn’t be, if you weren’t a dumbass that tried to slander me as someone who actually enjoyed the tweets re: infanticide of gay children. If you’re too stupid to see the difference between (1) pointing out that the tweets may have been bad taste humor, as opposed to genuine, and (2) thinking the that I thought they were funny, then that’s not my problem to fix.
But since you’ve “outed” yourself (no pun intended) as someone who can’t keep an argument straight to save his life, you’ve made it clear you’re a waste of time on this topic.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://storify.com/homophobes/100-homophobes-who-would-kill-their-gay-child
On March 12, 2012, the hashtag #ToMyUnbornChild became a trending topic. People used this hashtag to “tweet to” their future child. Here are 100 real tweets from real people ? all within 24 hours ? saying they would murder their child if he or she was gay.
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Fantastic - 100 “real” tweets from across the multitudes of Twitterverse syaing they would kill the child.
And you are certain none of them were joking and trying to use irreverent, provocative humor in an effort to generate a response? Because no one does that on Twitter, right?
“Intellectual Left” continues to be an oxymoron.[/quote]
Here is my original post.
Anyway, I am still hanging out a “Help Wanted” sign for intelligent left-wingers who can folow an argument. Serious inquiries only.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://storify.com/homophobes/100-homophobes-who-would-kill-their-gay-child
On March 12, 2012, the hashtag #ToMyUnbornChild became a trending topic. People used this hashtag to “tweet to” their future child. Here are 100 real tweets from real people ? all within 24 hours ? saying they would murder their child if he or she was gay.
[/quote]
Fantastic - 100 “real” tweets from across the multitudes of Twitterverse syaing they would kill the child.
And you are certain none of them were joking and trying to use irreverent, provocative humor in an effort to generate a response? Because no one does that on Twitter, right?
“Intellectual Left” continues to be an oxymoron.[/quote]
Here is my original post.
Anyway, I am still hanging out a “Help Wanted” sign for intelligent left-wingers who can folow an argument. Serious inquiries only.[/quote]
I tend to be left leaning on several social issues and, not to sound too egotistical here but I am considered somewhat more than “reasonably intelligent” by many people, what is it you were wishing to discuss? Oh, and I have not engaged you in conversations before because you have a tendency to insult anyone who disagrees with you and I do not debate with people like that, whether they agree with me or disagree. Push and I managed to discuss opposing viewpoints of a sensitive topic in GAL without resorting to insults so I know it is possible.
lol @ automatically labeling pro-gay people as left wingers
The critical thoughtless indocrinated children of the bipartisan political monopoly and surrounding media circus. Cute!
[quote]want2getlean wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
If he was that concerned than he wouldn’t have allowed people to BE GAY! If being gay was so bad, they wouldn’t be around, now would they? If they are such an abomination, why hasn’t your God struck them down, committed GENOCIDE? Oh wait, because it’s GENETIC! And STRAIGHT people give birth to GAY people! Shut your hole and go back to being a lurker.[/quote]
Can’t you see? God works in mysterious ways!
Instead of smiting the infidels himself, he created white trash bigots to do his bidding![/quote]
Ahhhh I see a new racist sock-puppet has been created.
Who might be the owner of this particular treat?