[quote]Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
I’m referring to people 25+ who have been smoking on a regular basis for several+ years. My opinion, based on my emperical observations, is that it has long term effects on the mind and is addictive. [/quote]
I agree. People that smoke everyday are generally losers, just as people that get drunk everyday are losers. I think it should be legal but let’s not kid ourselves with the pro-pot propaganda.
[quote]Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
I’m referring to people 25+ who have been smoking on a regular basis for several+ years. My opinion, based on my empirical observations, is that it has long term effects on the mind and is addictive. [/quote]
Must be the crowd you run with. My mom has more pot smoking friends than I do, and they are all well off professionals.
I’m sure they don’t partake daily but many of them have been smoking pot 40 plus years.
I quit smoking it 20+ years ago because of personal preference, but I think it is far less damaging than alcohol.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
I’m referring to people 25+ who have been smoking on a regular basis for several+ years. My opinion, based on my empirical observations, is that it has long term effects on the mind and is addictive.
Must be the crowd you run with. My mom has more pot smoking friends than I do, and they are all well off professionals.
I’m sure they don’t partake daily but many of them have been smoking pot 40 plus years.
I quit smoking it 20+ years ago because of personal preference, but I think it is far less damaging than alcohol.
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I also know a couple professionals who smoke pot, and again they seem to be a bit bipolar. However, they also smoke it every day, I’m not talking about occasianal smokers.
I had never watched that Reefer Madness flick before but had simply read other commentary on it. Now that I’ve watched some of it, it is pretty clear that many of the laws in place are there out of pure ignorance, greed and fear mongering.
“Deadly” is what they called it in that movie. I have no doubt that 200 years from now, someone on some future version of the internet will type the following,
Come on man! Haven’t you ever seen Reefer Madness? The modern version gives a such a scary look into the future of pot users!
We could be stealing from Jesus after our first hit!!!
Serious:
Hemp could give our economy, and our environment, a seriously huge boost. It grows like a goddamn weed and makes good paper. No deforestation, no need to wait a thousand years to replace. A single acre of hemp is worth many, many acres of forest staked for lumber, in the long term of course.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I had never watched that Reefer Madness flick before but had simply read other commentary on it. Now that I’ve watched some of it, it is pretty clear that many of the laws in place are there out of pure ignorance, greed and fear mongering.
“Deadly” is what they called it in that movie. I have no doubt that 200 years from now, someone on some future version of the internet will type the following,
“People were idiots back then.”[/quote]
X, I implore you, and everyone, to watched the updated version of Reefer Madness.
It is by far one of the funniest films I’ve ever seen.
Just so y’all know, it is a spoof on the original. Very, very funny.
[quote]Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
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It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.[/quote]
Exactly.
I know plenty of doctors and highly regarded researches who smoke mary jane. They get out of the lab for a smoke break, but none of them smoke cigs.
They’re also Canadian.
The reason more losers smoke pot in the US than intellectuals (relatively of course, as there are many more losers than smart people) is because intellectuals tend to sway on the right side of the law.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I had never watched that Reefer Madness flick before but had simply read other commentary on it. Now that I’ve watched some of it, it is pretty clear that many of the laws in place are there out of pure ignorance, greed and fear mongering.
“Deadly” is what they called it in that movie. I have no doubt that 200 years from now, someone on some future version of the internet will type the following,
“People were idiots back then.”
X, I implore you, and everyone, to watched the updated version of Reefer Madness.
It is by far one of the funniest films I’ve ever seen.
Just so y’all know, it is a spoof on the original. Very, very funny.[/quote]
I only found this clip and a few others:
Jimmy: “Don’t bring me down”
Jesus: “On the contrary, Jimmy. I’m here to bring you up…with dope! Oh, not your kind of dope…but the STRAIGHT DOPE” breaks out into anti-weed musical
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.[/quote]
Knowing someone does not make them my friend, but yes I am sure most of the losers were losers to begin with. However, this doesn’t address #2.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.
Exactly.
I know plenty of doctors and highly regarded researches who smoke mary jane. They get out of the lab for a smoke break, but none of them smoke cigs.
They’re also Canadian.
The reason more losers smoke pot in the US than intellectuals (relatively of course, as there are many more losers than smart people) is because intellectuals tend to sway on the right side of the law.[/quote]
I am from Canada, the majority of smokers here are losers.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
I’m referring to people 25+ who have been smoking on a regular basis for several+ years. My opinion, based on my emperical observations, is that it has long term effects on the mind and is addictive.
I agree. People that smoke everyday are generally losers, just as people that get drunk everyday are losers. I think it should be legal but let’s not kid ourselves with the pro-pot propaganda.[/quote]
Pro-pot propaganda? Hell I think weed should be restricted like Alcohol. Age-limit and don’t operate machinery or drive.
[quote]Joe84 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.
Knowing someone does not make them my friend, but yes I am sure most of the losers were losers to begin with. However, this doesn’t address #2. [/quote]
Well, if it was legal, then people could be more open about whether or not they should use it. THC can aggravate pre-existing metal disorders. Something to talk to the Doctor about, right? No wait, right now you can’t.
Make it legal and place limits on it similar to the limits placed on Alcohol consumption.
Perhaps this can help explain yor loser acquaintances: For those minority of cannabis smokers who do graduate to harder substances, it is cannabis prohibition – which forces users to associate with the illicit drug black market – rather than the use of cannabis itself, that often serves as a doorway to the world of hard drugs. The more users become integrated in an environment where, apart from cannabis, hard drugs can also be obtained, the greater the chances they will experiment with harder drugs.
[quote]ty45 wrote:
Although I think everyone could use a little herb once in a while I do firmly believe it is a gateway drug. A lot of my friends started off blazing, eventually began to be chronic smokers (pun intended) and now they are doing coke, E, special K, salvia, and others. I have seen it happen to a lot of my close friends. But I still believe pot should be legal and not frowned upon so much. Sorry if my logic doesn’t make sense.[/quote]
Most people that use ‘hard’ drugs do start with marijuana. But most people that smoke marijuna don’t go on to use hard drugs.
[quote]Joe84 wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.
Exactly.
I know plenty of doctors and highly regarded researches who smoke mary jane. They get out of the lab for a smoke break, but none of them smoke cigs.
They’re also Canadian.
The reason more losers smoke pot in the US than intellectuals (relatively of course, as there are many more losers than smart people) is because intellectuals tend to sway on the right side of the law.
I am from Canada, the majority of smokers here are losers. [/quote]
How do you know? How do you know what people do behind closed doors? Do you poll them? Maybe it’s just that the loser burnouts make their use obvious while succesful people live their lives, do their thing, enjoy their weed but don’t advertise it.
Using statistics gets you nowhere. It won;t take anytime for some org to fish out a suspicious study that shows the exact opposite of what youve quoted.
All i know is, if everyone smoked, we would not be worrying about prohibition. And as far as I can see, the number is definitely increasing.
Give it time, Just as the liquor prohibition ended, so will this…guaranteed.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
ty45 wrote:
Although I think everyone could use a little herb once in a while I do firmly believe it is a gateway drug. A lot of my friends started off blazing, eventually began to be chronic smokers (pun intended) and now they are doing coke, E, special K, salvia, and others. I have seen it happen to a lot of my close friends. But I still believe pot should be legal and not frowned upon so much. Sorry if my logic doesn’t make sense.
Most people that use ‘hard’ drugs do start with marijuana. But most people that smoke marijuna don’t go on to use hard drugs. [/quote]
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Using statistics gets you nowhere. It won;t take anytime for some org to fish out a suspicious study that shows the exact opposite of what youve quoted.
All i know is, if everyone smoked, we would not be worrying about prohibition. And as far as I can see, the number is definitely increasing.
Give it time, Just as the liquor prohibition ended, so will this…guaranteed.
jsbrook wrote:
ty45 wrote:
Although I think everyone could use a little herb once in a while I do firmly believe it is a gateway drug. A lot of my friends started off blazing, eventually began to be chronic smokers (pun intended) and now they are doing coke, E, special K, salvia, and others. I have seen it happen to a lot of my close friends. But I still believe pot should be legal and not frowned upon so much. Sorry if my logic doesn’t make sense.
Most people that use ‘hard’ drugs do start with marijuana. But most people that smoke marijuna don’t go on to use hard drugs.
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This is a true statistic that even that anti-marijuana people don’t dispute (despite other myths and propadanda they promulgate). There are many more marijuana users than cocaine users for example and many users of marijuana who don’t go on to use other drugs.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Using statistics gets you nowhere. It won;t take anytime for some org to fish out a suspicious study that shows the exact opposite of what youve quoted.
All i know is, if everyone smoked, we would not be worrying about prohibition. And as far as I can see, the number is definitely increasing.
Give it time, Just as the liquor prohibition ended, so will this…guaranteed.[/quote]
I just want my weed to become cheaper.
Also note that many of these studies showing the “opposite” are usually half-assed and draw conclusions from wildly inconsistent sources.
[quote]ty45 wrote:
Although I think everyone could use a little herb once in a while I do firmly believe it is a gateway drug. A lot of my friends started off blazing, eventually began to be chronic smokers (pun intended) and now they are doing coke, E, special K, salvia, and others. I have seen it happen to a lot of my close friends. But I still believe pot should be legal and not frowned upon so much. Sorry if my logic doesn’t make sense.[/quote]
I bet those people you know started smoking and drinking alcohol before smoking marijuana
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe84 wrote:
Why is it that every lifetime pot smoker I have ever known is 1) a welfare loser 2) seems to be bipolar to some degree 3) both 1 & 2.
It is highly probable that your friends were losers before they even had their first experience with cannabis.[/quote]
