Man Says He'll Kill Son's Murderer

[quote]Stern wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
Obviously I feel sympathy and expect others to. Is it really a crime on this board to also be torn between feelings about this, feelings about the other 40 something serial killers and brouhaha[/quote]

Not jumping on the Oleena hatewagon or anything. I don’t know you and there’s far more to a person than how they portray themselves on an internet board, but, you’ve somewhat belittled this kid’s death in this discussion by needlessly comparing it to other similar crimes. Exactly what is there to be torn about; they’re all horrendous crimes and people who commit such acts as this should be removed from the gene pool. Again, what is there to be torn about?

You don’t have to quantify sympathy on a case by case basis when we’re talking about the murder of an innocent child (that is no relation to you). You should just feel it, end of.

Saying on one hand that you agree this perp should be removed from society while on the other hand proclaiming you don’t know what the fuss is all about because worse stuff than this happens all the time, all over the world, is kinda…retarted. How do you determine how BAD the murder of a child is? Is it based on how much torture they endure before their death? Do you have a personal rating system? Would you stand and tell this kid’s father “it isn’t THAT bad…worse could’ve happened.”

This isn’t like a 90 year old man dying peacefully in his sleep where you would say “…well, you know, at least he wasn’t in pain. He had a great life and it could’ve been much worse!”

It’s an entirely different thing altogether and I can’t fathom your motive for even suggesting this story isn’t “that bad…”.

On topic. Hell fucking yes, if someone purposefully took someone close to me like this I’m certain I would have serious issues restraining myself. Hell mend the consequences. I would like to hope that I would be lucid enough to do it without getting caught and further affecting the lives of the people around me adversely, but given the emotions something like this must raise, I’m really not sure that would be possible.

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She is retarded. That aside, I would not go after the killer personally. Obviously I’d be the first guy they would look to and where would that leave my family? Anyone who thinks they’d get away with it is delusional. Now would I want to kill him?

Yep. but as I said, just a 22 to the back of the head. Why waste 40 cents on a 45 acp or 357 round. A brick of 22s is 15$ where I live and you’d still have 499 more left for other human refuse.

I don’t think such garbage deserves the time that people would take to make them suffer. If a savage animal mauled my kid, killed him or her, or just injured, the justice would be the same.
Shoot it.

Now I’m not advocating capital punishment for a broken nose, just saying that you solve the problem by removing the threat. Of course this should have been done 28 years ago and the man should never have left prison.

exactly Stern the crimes shouldn’t be compared… not sure why they were to begin with

Well he fucked up by announcing it publically if he really intends to do it.

Maybe this is a subtle “hey buddy, I can’t get at you as long as you’re behind bars” type statement.

You think that is bad? It is but there are even more who make my blood boil.

If this is a repost then i ams sorry, but i could not feel so much frustration when i reed the above article.

Pedro lopez, he killed 300 girls(it could be an exaggeration) but many say he is killing again, i hear they shaved off 8 years of his 30 year sentence because he helped them find the bodies.

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:
Reminds me of that story where a guys son was molested. Dad camped out at the airport and shot the guy dead right in front police and cameras and everything. He was acquitted of all charges by a jury.

I hope he does it, and I hope the same thing happens.[/quote]

Link? This seems implausible.[/quote]

Implausible? Situations far more implausible have happened.

I remember this story, too. I’ll find a link.[/quote]

I’m hoping you can find a link, that would definitely brighten my mood after reading the shit I just read.[/quote]

Here, you can watch the mother fucker get shot in the head:

And Dad got 5 years probation, not fully acquitted, I was wrong about that[/quote]

That’s actually pretty awesome. I wish that other guy didn’t step in front of the camera right when the gun goes off.

This is not true for all cases. E.g. if murdering someone is wrong because of say, natural rights theory, then murdering the murderer is perfectly okay because he forfeits his rights by violating the rights of another. If murder is wrong because of the economic penalty it will inflict on the deceased’s family and the criminal is unable to pay wergild then again, the family is within its rights to kill him.

It all depends on what system of ethics you live by. There is no one right system of ethics and claiming there is is just silly.

What happened in this thread? Is Oleena trying to make Seattle sound like East Oakland?

WWCSD ?

That should clear many things up

[quote]tom63 wrote:
I don’t go for all this torture and mete out the same justice for the killer stuff. He deserves to be shot in the head with a 22 and thrown out like trash. Like a rabid racoon. I’m not one for humanizing such detritus by putting so much effort into a punishment . [/quote]

People live through getting shot in the head by a 22. We wouldn’t want him to live and be taken to the hospital where they have to spend thousands more on him do we? Lets bump that up to a 40 caliber

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:
Reminds me of that story where a guys son was molested. Dad camped out at the airport and shot the guy dead right in front police and cameras and everything. He was acquitted of all charges by a jury.

I hope he does it, and I hope the same thing happens.[/quote]

Link? This seems implausible.[/quote]

Implausible? Situations far more implausible have happened.

I remember this story, too. I’ll find a link.[/quote]

I’m hoping you can find a link, that would definitely brighten my mood after reading the shit I just read.[/quote]

Here, you can watch the mother fucker get shot in the head:

And Dad got 5 years probation, not fully acquitted, I was wrong about that[/quote]

That’s actually pretty awesome. I wish that other guy didn’t step in front of the camera right when the gun goes off.
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If you watch closely, right before he goes down you can see his hair flip up due to the bullets impact.

[quote]DickBag wrote:
Forgot to say, I think the only person who has a reasonable reason to say the killer should be killed is the family of the victom.

If you were not personally affected by this, then its not really your thing.

The right choice is the choice for the better good. Not the choice you got by yourself by thinking “oh what if that happened to me”

The judge should take into account both families involved and then measure up the crime and then choose the approproate decision. You can’t just think about yourself and “how you would feel” thats not enough to make a rational choice, I don’t think.

Although it seems reasonable for the father to want blood out of vengeance, I don’t think thats the best choice. theres more things to consider imo.

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What if some psycho motherfucker just tortured and killed your pike, DB??

What say you now?? Oh, i’m sure you’d just ignore it and move on with your life after a period of mourning…

Yeah, bullshit. You’d be after that pike killer so fast it would make your head spin. NO.DOUBT.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]belligerent wrote:
Well he fucked up by announcing it publically if he really intends to do it.[/quote]

I don’t necessarily think so. A jury needs more than a motive to convict.[/quote]

I wish I was on that jury . They’d never get a conviction .

[quote]TD54 wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
I don’t go for all this torture and mete out the same justice for the killer stuff. He deserves to be shot in the head with a 22 and thrown out like trash. Like a rabid racoon. I’m not one for humanizing such detritus by putting so much effort into a punishment . [/quote]

People live through getting shot in the head by a 22. We wouldn’t want him to live and be taken to the hospital where they have to spend thousands more on him do we? Lets bump that up to a 40 caliber[/quote]

I see your point. But ten rounds is still cheaper . Go for the base of the skull, you’ll hit the brainstem,

[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]TD54 wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
I don’t go for all this torture and mete out the same justice for the killer stuff. He deserves to be shot in the head with a 22 and thrown out like trash. Like a rabid racoon. I’m not one for humanizing such detritus by putting so much effort into a punishment . [/quote]

People live through getting shot in the head by a 22. We wouldn’t want him to live and be taken to the hospital where they have to spend thousands more on him do we? Lets bump that up to a 40 caliber[/quote]

I see your point. But ten rounds is still cheaper . [/quote]

And more fun

[quote]TD54 wrote:
What happened in this thread? Is Oleena trying to make Seattle sound like East Oakland?[/quote]

Oleena is a spanky but the reality of things is I have friends in Spokane and it is a pretty nasty town, believe it or not.

In fact, a lot of Cops episodes are filmed there.

People I know there have permits and carry guns all the time.

Just stating this as a point of interest because I had no clue prior to meeting people from there.

[quote]TD54 wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]TD54 wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
I don’t go for all this torture and mete out the same justice for the killer stuff. He deserves to be shot in the head with a 22 and thrown out like trash. Like a rabid racoon. I’m not one for humanizing such detritus by putting so much effort into a punishment . [/quote]

People live through getting shot in the head by a 22. We wouldn’t want him to live and be taken to the hospital where they have to spend thousands more on him do we? Lets bump that up to a 40 caliber[/quote]

I see your point. But ten rounds is still cheaper . [/quote]

And more fun
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By one 22 round I meant if it was an execution . If he’s sentenced to death he gets shot inbtfe head and dumped in some mass grave/ ditch thing . If it’s a you’re going to kill him thing , go for a bigger caliber of course .

If you have some plan to get away with it, try Remington accelerator rounds if you can find them . A 223 fired from a 308 or 30 06 will be clocking at 4000 plus fps. Anywhere in the goodies he’s done . With the sabot there will not be any bullet / barrel matching .

Don’t know if these are available anymore though .