[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Just where on the continuum is the ‘happy’ place.
For you or me?[/quote]
Life is a series of compromises.Nobody gets everything they want,all of the time.
Extremes on either end don’t work.And different sociocultural groups appear to value different sweet spots on the left/right axis.
So there is no one size fits all answer…
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not separating labor from the free market I am pointing out the influence that the illegal immigration issue and the organized employers are having over an unorganized labor force. If Management were fair, there would be no reason to want a Union.
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We’ve changed directions here a bit but I will comment. There is nothing wrong with Unions. There is something wrong with unfair regulation and law that favors unions.
Someone explain to me what is wrong with a secret ballot? Someone explain to me why when a percentage of employees vote for unionization the rest that voted not to are forced to join the union or be releived of their job.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
I am not separating labor from the free market I am pointing out the influence that the illegal immigration issue and the organized employers are having over an unorganized labor force. If Management were fair, there would be no reason to want a Union.
We’ve changed directions here a bit but I will comment. There is nothing wrong with Unions. There is something wrong with unfair regulation and law that favors unions.
Someone explain to me what is wrong with a secret ballot? Someone explain to me why when a percentage of employees vote for unionization the rest that voted not to are forced to join the union or be releived of their job.[/quote]
While they render the Unions less effective there are many states that do have an open shop law
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Life is a series of compromises.Nobody gets everything they want,all of the time.
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This is true but I still get to decide the hows and wherefores as I am the one that ultimately must accept the consequences of the action.
Government cannot take responsibility or hold itself accountable for anything; only individuals can.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
We can’t cut the cancer out. we can only hope to stop it from spreading and then slowly rid ourselves of it one cancerous cell at a time.[/quote]
Yes.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Wasn’t “Give communism a chance” one of lifticus’ mantras back before he became an anarchist? [/quote]
That was also back when he swore that there were no moral truths - none! - only to now label essentially everything that doesn’t comport with anarchic principles “immoral!”.
What is today? Thursday? I believe Lifticus is a Keynesian Jainist today, and tomorrow he will be a Scientologist with a membership in the Green Party.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Life is a series of compromises.Nobody gets everything they want,all of the time.
This is true but I still get to decide the hows and wherefores as I am the one that ultimately must accept the consequences of the action.
Government cannot take responsibility or hold itself accountable for anything; only individuals can.[/quote]
Government is a representation of the individual.As an individual,you decide the hows and wherefores by exercising your vote.Or if you feel strongly enough,by participating in government.
If the majority where you reside do not agree with what you believe to be true and right,then you can vote with your feet and move somewhere where the majority is in line with your own vision.
So you see,you really do get to decide.
But not by changing the wishes of those around you.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
So you see,you really do get to decide.
But not by changing the wishes of those around you.
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It is exactly because I respect the wishes of others that I do not like government.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
So you see,you really do get to decide.
But not by changing the wishes of those around you.
It is exactly because I respect the wishes of others that I do not like government.[/quote]
You don’t have to like it.That’s why you are free to move.The rest of the U.S. seems to like it just fine.
Pop quiz-who said :“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”?
100 geek points to the winner…
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Pop quiz-who said :“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”?
100 geek points to the winner…
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Oh please…why would one ever admit to knowing it? Just to be clear, I had to google it.
Wasn’t he the bad guy in that movie?
Your google must be broken.
Mr. Spock was NEVER a bad guy.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Your google must be broken.
Mr. Spock was NEVER a bad guy.[/quote]
Vulcans are the bad guys. Complete socialists.
Anyway, yeah I though it was that evil Khan dude that said it. My bad.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Your google must be broken.
Mr. Spock was NEVER a bad guy.
Vulcans are the bad guys. Complete socialists.
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They are Vulcans. Maybe it works for them.
[quote]orion wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Your google must be broken.
Mr. Spock was NEVER a bad guy.
Vulcans are the bad guys. Complete socialists.
They are Vulcans. Maybe it works for them.
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Exactly.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
So you see,you really do get to decide.
But not by changing the wishes of those around you.
It is exactly because I respect the wishes of others that I do not like government.
You don’t have to like it.That’s why you are free to move.The rest of the U.S. seems to like it just fine.
Pop quiz-who said :“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”?
100 geek points to the winner…
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Sarak?