'Living Wage' Mandate Sends Walmart Running

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
There are piss-poor areas in the US where people will cut each others throat for those minimum-wage jobs and even offer to accept less than minimum wage.

So what flies in Europe may not necessarily fly here. Walmart has us where they want us and we accept that.

Rob[/quote]

Walmart may have us with the collusion of the government but it doesn’t have to be that way. Germany is a prime example. the people need to get together and stand up for what is right and equitable. Unions used to play a big part in this but have been systematically attacked by big business and deserted by politicians.

Fuck Walmart![/quote]

please point me to what law/statute/amendment that says every job offered by any company must pay more than minimum wage. isnt that what minimum wage is- the ‘minimum wage’ a worker must be paid?

who in their fucking right mind tries to make a god damn living on minimum wage? if you do a job that a trained monkey or middle schooler could do, you have little negotiation power when it comes to wages.

sorry, but that is how life works. you have no redeeming quality or desirable skill, you take what you can get. want better? get better.[/quote]
The people are allowed to demand a living wage. And if politicians are behind them, all the better as politicians are normally behind big business. Why can the German government demand more for their people but the U.S. can’t?[/quote]

the people are also allowed to demand gold thrones and personal aircraft. Doesnt mean they will get it. especially if they have no marketable skills.

germany and the us are different, thats how. cradle to grave hasnt completely taken control of the US yet. it has in germany.[/quote]
Cradle to grave arguments are more idealogical in nature. If Walmart can make a profit all the while mandated to pay a certain wage, vacation and medical costs in Germany, why can’t they in the U.S.?[/quote]

if they can make a larger profit here, why shouldnt they?

your argument is ideological in nature.[/quote]

Because it forces the public to pay for their medical and food stamps. Why should we have to do so when Walmart can pay? Why do the public in Germany get treated better than America?
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These same americans will receive those benefits whether they work or not, so why not have them become productive contributing members of society instead of 100% cost?

[/quote]

Because your ideas are, “too ideological in nature.”

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[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
There are piss-poor areas in the US where people will cut each others throat for those minimum-wage jobs and even offer to accept less than minimum wage.

So what flies in Europe may not necessarily fly here. Walmart has us where they want us and we accept that.

Rob[/quote]

Walmart may have us with the collusion of the government but it doesn’t have to be that way. Germany is a prime example. the people need to get together and stand up for what is right and equitable. Unions used to play a big part in this but have been systematically attacked by big business and deserted by politicians.

Fuck Walmart![/quote]

please point me to what law/statute/amendment that says every job offered by any company must pay more than minimum wage. isnt that what minimum wage is- the ‘minimum wage’ a worker must be paid?

who in their fucking right mind tries to make a god damn living on minimum wage? if you do a job that a trained monkey or middle schooler could do, you have little negotiation power when it comes to wages.

sorry, but that is how life works. you have no redeeming quality or desirable skill, you take what you can get. want better? get better.[/quote]
The people are allowed to demand a living wage. And if politicians are behind them, all the better as politicians are normally behind big business. Why can the German government demand more for their people but the U.S. can’t?[/quote]

the people are also allowed to demand gold thrones and personal aircraft. Doesnt mean they will get it. especially if they have no marketable skills.

germany and the us are different, thats how. cradle to grave hasnt completely taken control of the US yet. it has in germany.[/quote]

Ever heard of a Strawman?

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Free enterprise works and they have better buying power out of sheer volume. [/quote]

There is no free enterprise when you consider retail companies like Walmart. Many of the people who produce goods for companies like Walmart are almost slaves. I’ve seen the abusive conditions in China. Companies like Walmart are getting rich by abusing people.[/quote]

What brand of gym shoe do you own?? Is every non perishable you own European or North American made??[/quote]

This. Sadly, it’s essentially impossible to not indirectly (whether 3rd, 4th, 5th ddegrees of separation, etc) fund bad people. It’s a fact of life. If you consume chocolate, you are contributing to slavery. If you buy shoes, you are almost definitely enabling sweatshop labor. If you pay taxes, you are funding weapons being provided to terrorists. You can only go so far with this, in real life. [/quote]

Slavery?

They are perfectly free to go return to the glorious life they led before.

It is just that they wont, because, believe it or not, those sweatshops are the best deal they can get right now.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Free enterprise works and they have better buying power out of sheer volume. [/quote]

There is no free enterprise when you consider retail companies like Walmart. Many of the people who produce goods for companies like Walmart are almost slaves. I’ve seen the abusive conditions in China. Companies like Walmart are getting rich by abusing people.[/quote]

What brand of gym shoe do you own?? Is every non perishable you own European or North American made??[/quote]

This. Sadly, it’s essentially impossible to not indirectly (whether 3rd, 4th, 5th ddegrees of separation, etc) fund bad people. It’s a fact of life. If you consume chocolate, you are contributing to slavery. If you buy shoes, you are almost definitely enabling sweatshop labor. If you pay taxes, you are funding weapons being provided to terrorists. You can only go so far with this, in real life. [/quote]

Slavery?

They are perfectly free to go return to the glorious life they led before.

It is just that they wont, because, believe it or not, those sweatshops are the best deal they can get right now. [/quote]

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[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

These same americans will receive those benefits whether they work or not, so why not have them become productive contributing members of society instead of 100% cost?

[/quote]

Because your ideas are, “too ideological in nature.” [/quote]

Maybe so, but practically speaking, this is already happening and people don’t seem to like it.

Granted, it is less than ideal, but so is virtually everything else under the sun.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Free enterprise works and they have better buying power out of sheer volume. [/quote]

There is no free enterprise when you consider retail companies like Walmart. Many of the people who produce goods for companies like Walmart are almost slaves. I’ve seen the abusive conditions in China. Companies like Walmart are getting rich by abusing people.[/quote]

What brand of gym shoe do you own?? Is every non perishable you own European or North American made??[/quote]

This. Sadly, it’s essentially impossible to not indirectly (whether 3rd, 4th, 5th ddegrees of separation, etc) fund bad people. It’s a fact of life. If you consume chocolate, you are contributing to slavery. If you buy shoes, you are almost definitely enabling sweatshop labor. If you pay taxes, you are funding weapons being provided to terrorists. You can only go so far with this, in real life. [/quote]

Slavery?

They are perfectly free to go return to the glorious life they led before.

It is just that they wont, because, believe it or not, those sweatshops are the best deal they can get right now. [/quote]

Alright, slavery.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Free enterprise works and they have better buying power out of sheer volume. [/quote]

There is no free enterprise when you consider retail companies like Walmart. Many of the people who produce goods for companies like Walmart are almost slaves. I’ve seen the abusive conditions in China. Companies like Walmart are getting rich by abusing people.[/quote]

What brand of gym shoe do you own?? Is every non perishable you own European or North American made??[/quote]

This. Sadly, it’s essentially impossible to not indirectly (whether 3rd, 4th, 5th ddegrees of separation, etc) fund bad people. It’s a fact of life. If you consume chocolate, you are contributing to slavery. If you buy shoes, you are almost definitely enabling sweatshop labor. If you pay taxes, you are funding weapons being provided to terrorists. You can only go so far with this, in real life. [/quote]

Slavery?

They are perfectly free to go return to the glorious life they led before.

It is just that they wont, because, believe it or not, those sweatshops are the best deal they can get right now. [/quote]

Alright, slavery.[/quote]

That’s not the early American South, so that can’t be true. Slavery could never exist anywhere else. My history books told me that my evil white ancestors abducted free Africans from an Eden-like paradise and enslaved them due to their race.

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[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
WalMart is not running. They are threatening to pull out 1,800 jobs from D.C. this is sending the City Council Members running.

Have no clue what article you posted because I have you ignored, but your title obviously shows a Union bias against Wal-Mart.[/quote]

AKA, I’m not reading your article, which the thread is about… So I shouldn’t have posted in the first place. At least read the article before you chime in. [/quote]

I read another article that was not from darealnewz.omg, so I am well versed in this story.

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[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Free enterprise works and they have better buying power out of sheer volume. [/quote]

There is no free enterprise when you consider retail companies like Walmart. Many of the people who produce goods for companies like Walmart are almost slaves. I’ve seen the abusive conditions in China. Companies like Walmart are getting rich by abusing people.[/quote]

What brand of gym shoe do you own?? Is every non perishable you own European or North American made??[/quote]

This. Sadly, it’s essentially impossible to not indirectly (whether 3rd, 4th, 5th ddegrees of separation, etc) fund bad people. It’s a fact of life. If you consume chocolate, you are contributing to slavery. If you buy shoes, you are almost definitely enabling sweatshop labor. If you pay taxes, you are funding weapons being provided to terrorists. You can only go so far with this, in real life. [/quote]

Slavery?

They are perfectly free to go return to the glorious life they led before.

It is just that they wont, because, believe it or not, those sweatshops are the best deal they can get right now. [/quote]

Alright, slavery.[/quote]

That’s not the early American South, so that can’t be true. Slavery could never exist anywhere else. My history books told me that my evil white ancestors abducted free Africans from an Eden-like paradise and enslaved them due to their race.[/quote]

Lol I know right? America was DEFINITELY the worst thing to happen to Africans. Their brethren back in the homeland are so much better off.

NOTICE
I do not actually condone slavery, nor justify it by way of pointing out the improved living conditions many enjoy today that they otherwise would not possess if not for slaves being transported to America from Africa

The quality and durability of satire and sarcasm detectors seems at an all-time low; sadly, I feel the above notice necessary.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

NOTICE
I do not actually condone slavery, nor justify it by way of pointing out the improved living conditions many enjoy today that they otherwise would not possess if not for slaves being transported to America from Africa

The quality and durability of satire and sarcasm detectors seems at an all-time low; sadly, I feel the above notice necessary. [/quote]

Sucking Chinese sweatshop produced junk, thats what they are.

Buy American.

Or, in case of quality electronics, German.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I just can’t comprehend how people convince themselves, logically, big companies must be inherently evil.

The people that are making minimum wage there are virtually always UNskilled workers. You’re not supposed to be able to live well without any skills. That’s why we get skills and use them in a workplace. You can, however, live off of minimum wage. It’s just not gonna be all super cushy, but as long as you’re smart with your money and live within your means, absolutely possible. People having these ridiculous entitlements and feeling they deserve a nice car and 2 more bedrooms than they have residents, an iphone, and go out to eat every day, that is the real problem. [/quote]

If big companies are taxed at a lower rate than small companies than the big company is at a huge advantage of the small company. A lot of time in retail profit is in the single digit percent range . Walmart may pay %0 and Ma and pa may pay %25 . Sales tax rates are more erroneous .

[/quote]

You typed nothing that was relevant to his post.

Nada.

Why not address that you CAN in fact live off minimum wage if you are not an entitled ass.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I just can’t comprehend how people convince themselves, logically, big companies must be inherently evil.

The people that are making minimum wage there are virtually always UNskilled workers. You’re not supposed to be able to live well without any skills. That’s why we get skills and use them in a workplace. You can, however, live off of minimum wage. It’s just not gonna be all super cushy, but as long as you’re smart with your money and live within your means, absolutely possible. People having these ridiculous entitlements and feeling they deserve a nice car and 2 more bedrooms than they have residents, an iphone, and go out to eat every day, that is the real problem. [/quote]

If big companies are taxed at a lower rate than small companies than the big company is at a huge advantage of the small company. A lot of time in retail profit is in the single digit percent range . Walmart may pay %0 and Ma and pa may pay %25 . Sales tax rates are more erroneous .

[/quote]

You typed nothing that was relevant to his post.

Nada.

Why not address that you CAN in fact live off minimum wage if you are not an entitled ass.[/quote]

Lol I have him on ignore so I hadn’t seen this until now. I suggest you do the same. It make PWI seem a little more intelligent.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I just can’t comprehend how people convince themselves, logically, big companies must be inherently evil.

The people that are making minimum wage there are virtually always UNskilled workers. You’re not supposed to be able to live well without any skills. That’s why we get skills and use them in a workplace. You can, however, live off of minimum wage. It’s just not gonna be all super cushy, but as long as you’re smart with your money and live within your means, absolutely possible. People having these ridiculous entitlements and feeling they deserve a nice car and 2 more bedrooms than they have residents, an iphone, and go out to eat every day, that is the real problem. [/quote]

If big companies are taxed at a lower rate than small companies than the big company is at a huge advantage of the small company. A lot of time in retail profit is in the single digit percent range . Walmart may pay %0 and Ma and pa may pay %25 . Sales tax rates are more erroneous .

[/quote]

You typed nothing that was relevant to his post.

Nada.

Why not address that you CAN in fact live off minimum wage if you are not an entitled ass.[/quote]

Lol I have him on ignore so I hadn’t seen this until now. I suggest you do the same. It make PWI seem a little more intelligent. [/quote]

I like Pitt, he can be a bit weird, but he is ok. Zepplin on the other hand by all means put him on ignore.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

I like Pitt, he can be a bit weird, but he is ok. Zepplin on the other hand by all means put him on ignore.[/quote]

Already have zep on ignore. I can’t stand when people hold onto and defend positions that have been shown to be stupid, and it’s easier to just not see their posts in the first place, since debating with them is pointless.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

I like Pitt, he can be a bit weird, but he is ok. Zepplin on the other hand by all means put him on ignore.[/quote]

Already have zep on ignore. I can’t stand when people hold onto and defend positions that have been shown to be stupid, and it’s easier to just not see their posts in the first place, since debating with them is pointless. [/quote]

agreed.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

I like Pitt, he can be a bit weird, but he is ok. Zepplin on the other hand by all means put him on ignore.[/quote]

Already have zep on ignore. I can’t stand when people hold onto and defend positions that have been shown to be stupid, and it’s easier to just not see their posts in the first place, since debating with them is pointless. [/quote]

When have my views been shown to be stupid? On the contrary I continually show how the mainstream views are stupid,slanted and propaganda-based.

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Dude, it’s a political forum! What are you, a debater?!
Obviously, you log in to high-five those who share your opinion and ignore the rest.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dude, it’s a political forum! What are you, a debater?!
Obviously, you log in to high-five those who share your opinion and ignore the rest.
[/quote]

I do enjoy debating with people of opposing or just different viewpoints, that’s shaped and changed a lot of how I think on many matters, political and otherwise. But reading the drivel-filled responses from some people is just a waste of time, and space on the page.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dude, it’s a political forum! What are you, a debater?!
Obviously, you log in to high-five those who share your opinion and ignore the rest.
[/quote]

YEAH , we do not need any intelligent conversation on thread ? WTF

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dude, it’s a political forum! What are you, a debater?!
Obviously, you log in to high-five those who share your opinion and ignore the rest.
[/quote]

I do enjoy debating with people of opposing or just different viewpoints, that’s shaped and changed a lot of how I think on many matters, political and otherwise. But reading the drivel-filled responses from some people is just a waste of time, and space on the page. [/quote]