One month plan…get the hell out of Iraq and return to Germany.
One year plan…travel, drink, and bang as many European girls as possible.
Two year plan…return to Iraq.
Three year plan…take all the money saved up from deployments and begin two year sabbatical traveling the world overland. Hit every continent and as many countries as possible, while boozing and trying to bang foreign girls. Take pictures.
Five year plan…either use my engineering degree to get a job or go back to school and be the old creepy guy hitting on college girls.
i have a job bussing right now, they wanna move me to server soon then when i turn 21 make me doorman. i want to get a bartenders license and start that up, they make bank. once i turn 21 ill apply to some clubs in boston to do doorman or bartending or both. i like the club scene i think itd be a good place to meet chicks and rub elbows with people in general.
porn and/or stripping is still a possibility. itd make for a pretty good sidegig too. maybe have like 3 “side jobs”.
if all else fails or just if its what i decide upon doing ive always been interested in getting my TEFL (teaching english as a foreign language) certificate so i could travel around the world. itd be cool cause i like working with people and helping them in terms of teaching plus like i said i get to travel around the world.
…yea theres a ton of shit i have buzzing around my head. and while its good to have a plan or rough idea of where you want to go sometimes you just need to go with the flow and see where life takes you. dont get too cemented to your plans because anything is liable to change and you dont want to miss a great oppurtunity for the sake of “sticking to a plan”.
[quote]Optimistic Cynic wrote:
One month plan…get the hell out of Iraq and return to Germany.
One year plan…travel, drink, and bang as many European girls as possible.
Two year plan…return to Iraq.
Three year plan…take all the money saved up from deployments and begin two year sabbatical traveling the world overland. Hit every continent and as many countries as possible, while boozing and trying to bang foreign girls. Take pictures.
Five year plan…either use my engineering degree to get a job or go back to school and be the old creepy guy hitting on college girls.
That’s about as far out as I can plan. [/quote]
you sir, have a fucking awesome plan. all i ask is if you rampage europe before me let me in on a couple hot spots.
I have actually had conversations with people where they have insisted that an education or a career doesn’t mean anything because you could lose it tomorrow. I never met someone who thinks that way who has achieved very much.[/quote]
Just wondering how you could lose an education, other then getting hit in the head pretty hard?
I have actually had conversations with people where they have insisted that an education or a career doesn’t mean anything because you could lose it tomorrow. I never met someone who thinks that way who has achieved very much.
Just wondering how you could lose an education, other then getting hit in the head pretty hard?[/quote]
I have gotten that recently from a couple of people I grew up with since I have been back from the military. In all honesty, it comes across as a defense mechanism so that I don’t think too highly of myself.
None of them have “careers” and are working at jobs they’ve had since dropping out of college (at least one of them). They will admit that they are looking for other jobs or opportunities, but feel the need to tell me things like this.
It comes up too often way too randomly for me to think of it as anything more than some type of jealousy.
It also isn’t everyone I knew, just a couple. Others who have higher paying jobs don’t do this.
Obviously, there’s different ways of looking at how we “plan” our lives.
You can plan so much of your life, that when you finally reach your goal, you can miss so much of everyday life if you have tunnel vision. Or, you reatch that goal, and you realize that it’s really not what you expected, and feel that you’ve wasted so much time on something that you thought you wanted. That’s part of life and the chance we take.
The other school of thought tends to be, that planning your live is pointless because life can change in an instant, so what’s the point? Many people have had goals, but somewhere along the way, those goals were never met for some reason/excuse.
Most people fall in the middle of the extremes.
I think if people keep reaching to better themselves, and strive for improvements on a regular basis, not make excuses for failing, and knows what makes them happy, the person will be “successful” in life.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Obviously, there’s different ways of looking at how we “plan” our lives.
You can plan so much of your life, that when you finally reach your goal, you can miss so much of everyday life if you have tunnel vision. Or, you reatch that goal, and you realize that it’s really not what you expected, and feel that you’ve wasted so much time on something that you thought you wanted. That’s part of life and the chance we take.
The other school of thought tends to be, that planning your live is pointless because life can change in an instant, so what’s the point? Many people have had goals, but somewhere along the way, those goals were never met for some reason/excuse.
Most people fall in the middle of the extremes.
I think if people keep reaching to better themselves, and strive for improvements on a regular basis, not make excuses for failing, and knows what makes them happy, the person will be “successful” in life. [/quote]
“Why do we fall down, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up again.”
[quote]Professor X wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Obviously, there’s different ways of looking at how we “plan” our lives.
You can plan so much of your life, that when you finally reach your goal, you can miss so much of everyday life if you have tunnel vision. Or, you reatch that goal, and you realize that it’s really not what you expected, and feel that you’ve wasted so much time on something that you thought you wanted. That’s part of life and the chance we take.
The other school of thought tends to be, that planning your live is pointless because life can change in an instant, so what’s the point? Many people have had goals, but somewhere along the way, those goals were never met for some reason/excuse.
Most people fall in the middle of the extremes.
I think if people keep reaching to better themselves, and strive for improvements on a regular basis, not make excuses for failing, and knows what makes them happy, the person will be “successful” in life.
“Why do we fall down, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up again.”
I think some people get stuck on the ground.[/quote]
True, but that’s because they want to be a victim. I have no patience for those kinds of people. It’s like life purposely shits on them, and they have no control over their lives.
[quote]Jabbate wrote:
Short Term= Get into good college
Long Term= Get rich and have fun.
Shouldn’t be too hard.[/quote]
im surprised that many ppls goals on here are to get rich.
sure that should be a goal, but not one of your primary goals… id rather be poor but be really happy with my life than be stupidly rich and not be happy. so id rather do a job that interests me and i have a lot of fun at but only get paid a small amount rather than doing something i fucking hate and getting a large wage.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jtg987 wrote:
life never works out the way you want it
That may be true, and you will no doubt run into obstacles especially if you plan to do better than average, however, I know way too many people who use the possibility of failure as an excuse to avoid ever trying much to begin with.
We were made to come up with a “5 year plan” when we were in high school. I think having clear concise goals keeps you from being complacent.
I have actually had conversations with people where they have insisted that an education or a career doesn’t mean anything because you could lose it tomorrow. I never met someone who thinks that way who has achieved very much.[/quote]
I had a precise plan regarding my education when I was in high school, without any outside incentive. Having such a plan at no time occurred as anything special to me. I executed it quite precisely while having plenty of fun along the way and making those type of experiences which are pretty much limited to that period of life - the things that are special when you are young and hard to make up for when you are older.
Presently, I don’t have such a precisely mapped out plan. At that time, though, I believe a plan was essential for reaching my goals. Contrary to subsequent phases, getting an education lends itself well to planning and the plans are rather easy to follow. I do agree that later in life, things usually get a bit more complex…
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jtg987 wrote:
life never works out the way you want it
That may be true, and you will no doubt run into obstacles especially if you plan to do better than average, however, I know way too many people who use the possibility of failure as an excuse to avoid ever trying much to begin with.
We were made to come up with a “5 year plan” when we were in high school. I think having clear concise goals keeps you from being complacent.
I have actually had conversations with people where they have insisted that an education or a career doesn’t mean anything because you could lose it tomorrow. I never met someone who thinks that way who has achieved very much.
I had a precise plan regarding my education when I was in high school, without any outside incentive. Having such a plan at no time occurred as anything special to me. I executed it quite precisely while having plenty of fun along the way and making those type of experiences which are pretty much limited to that period of life - the things that are special when you are young and hard to make up for when you are older.
Presently, I don’t have such a precisely mapped out plan. At that time, though, I believe a plan was essential for reaching my goals. Contrary to subsequent phases, getting an education lends itself well to planning and the plans are rather easy to follow. I do agree that later in life, things usually get a bit more complex… [/quote]
I will be the first to admit that you could very well work hard for something only to have it blow up in your face. I am sure just about all of us have experienced this to some degree…some way more than others.
That should never mean that you don’t ever try though. It seemed like some in this thread do just that.
I think if people keep reaching to better themselves, and strive for improvements on a regular basis, not make excuses for failing, and knows what makes them happy, the person will be “successful” in life. [/quote]
And chances are good that this success cannot be measured in dollars.
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
im surprised that many ppls goals on here are to get rich.
sure that should be a goal, but not one of your primary goals… id rather be poor but be really happy with my life than be stupidly rich and not be happy. so id rather do a job that interests me and i have a lot of fun at but only get paid a small amount rather than doing something i fucking hate and getting a large wage.
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Unless you are one of a very select and possibly lucky few, I doubt work will be much fun overall. I can hardly think of anything in the context of having to make a living from it that still remains very enjoyable.
Work to me is simply a means of making enough money so I can lead the rest of my life the way I want to. Of course I made sure to get a job that’s as interesting and as comfortable as possible, but I doubt I’ll ever consider working full-time “fun” first and foremost.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I will be the first to admit that you could very well work hard for something only to have it blow up in your face. I am sure just about all of us have experienced this to some degree…some way more than others.
That should never mean that you don’t ever try though. It seemed like some in this thread do just that.[/quote]
Agreed.
In my case, I’ll have to admit that not having a concrete plan like I used to is mostly a matter of me having reached a point where I’m just about satisfied in some significant aspects of life. Leaves more energy to pursue other, more trivial things.
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
im surprised that many ppls goals on here are to get rich.
sure that should be a goal, but not one of your primary goals… id rather be poor but be really happy with my life than be stupidly rich and not be happy. so id rather do a job that interests me and i have a lot of fun at but only get paid a small amount rather than doing something i fucking hate and getting a large wage.
Unless you are one of a very select and possibly lucky few, I doubt work will be much fun overall. I can hardly think of anything in the context of having to make a living from it that still remains very enjoyable.
Work to me is simply a means of making enough money so I can lead the rest of my life the way I want to. Of course I made sure to get a job that’s as interesting and as comfortable as possible, but I doubt I’ll ever consider working full-time “fun” first and foremost.
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maybe “fun” was too broad a word to use… but i never want to wake up in the morning and feel utter resentment for the job i have to go into.
i fully expect to wake up and perhaps dread going in on particular days. eg: when i have to give a presentation or when the boss is paying a visit or something. but i still want to be comfortable, be myself and 85% of the time enjoy my job. i also want my job to provide me new challenges daily, i would rather kill myself than perform the exact same tasks 40 hours a week.
money is merely a number to me after a certain point. once i have enough to pay my rent, pay my bills, take the odd holiday here and there, and be able to have regular fun with friends.
I just want to have enough money so that i can bodybuild in peace and have weekend pool parties at my mansion with lots of hot babes and waiters in clown costumes.
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
i fully expect to wake up and perhaps dread going in on particular days. eg: when i have to give a presentation or when the boss is paying a visit or something. but i still want to be comfortable, be myself and 85% of the time enjoy my job. i also want my job to provide me new challenges daily, i would rather kill myself than perform the exact same tasks 40 hours a week.
money is merely a number to me after a certain point. once i have enough to pay my rent, pay my bills, take the odd holiday here and there, and be able to have regular fun with friends.
Scott
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It’s not hard to find a job you don’t mind going to. Don’t get me wrong, I hate most of my customers, whiney scum, but if you like the people you work with it’s ok.