[quote]carbiduis wrote:
My friend is a Union Pipefitter (sp?)
his mom is a lobbyist for the teachers union (she influences his political stance greatly and he has voted for obama (and full on dems) both times, as he is not super political)
and he associates himself with being a libertarian…
LOL WTF BRO??? this is what I’m talking about when I said how people think they are libertarian.[/quote]
It may be hard for you to understand but your friend that voted for the Democratic ticket voted for what is best for his personal career . republicans would dismantle every Union if they could . When I was Union I mostly voted the ticket the Union endorsed
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FACEPALM
I have to remind my friend of this. I’m damn aware of the SELFISH nature of unions. I repeatedly explain to him how anything that is good for his union, is bad for EVERYONE else.
He is smart enough to know that I’m right, and never has anything to say back cause he knows it’s true, usually ending the conversation with a greedy smile or chuckle.[/quote]
Double FACEPALM
I know only Unions are the only one guilty of voting for their own self interest , eye roll:)
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
heres an interesting article, the most libertarian countries catagorized by topic:
ALL DRUGS LEGAL in portugal
Russia is the MOST CORRUPT western nation
PROSTITUTION is essentialy legal in Canada
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Wonder what the result has been for Portugal?
Are there more or less STD’s in Canada?[/quote]
As would be expected, drug use in Portugal has drastically reduced. I pointed this out several years ago. One of the symptoms of addiction (especially in the later stages) is stockpiling in order to ensure availability of supply. Another aspect of this symptom is introducing new users or dragging recovered addicts back into active addiction. The AA people call that misery loves company.
Stockpiling in turn leads to binging, because another symptom of addiction is an inability to stop. Binging in turn makes people even more addicted. So it’s a viscous cycle that just feeds itself.
Once the government stops creating this insecurity of supply drama, addicts (who are sick people) stop reacting to it in a self destructive manner.
"Health experts in Portugal said Friday that Portugal�??�??�?�¢??s decision 10 years ago to decriminalise drug use and treat addicts rather than punishing them is an experiment that has worked.
�??�??�?�¢??There is no doubt that the phenomenon of addiction is in decline in Portugal,�??�??�?�¢?? said Joao Goulao, President of the Institute of Drugs and Drugs Addiction, a press conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the law.
The number of addicts considered �??�??�?�¢??problematic�??�??�?�¢?? �??�??�?�¢?? those who repeatedly use �??�??�?�¢??hard�??�??�?�¢?? drugs and intravenous users �??�??�?�¢?? had fallen by half since the early 1990s, when the figure was estimated at around 100,000 people, Goulao said."[/quote]
I would be willing to try this here.
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Mathew Perry hosted a guest Pierce Morgan episode on this subject. There is definitely a trend in this direction. The Netherlands will likely follow suit[/quote]
I would prefer to spend tax dollars helping people get off of drugs than spend the money putting them in jail.
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We agree at least one has a marginal success rate
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Marginal? Lisbon cut their addict population in half in 10 years.
Humorous trivia. These are the amounts of each drug that are considered a 10 days supply and therefore legal to carry there.
Amount limits of possession for personal consumption are:
25 g Cannabis (herb)
5 g Hashish
2.5 g Cannabis Oil
0.5 g Pure THC
50 µg LSD
1 g MDMA
2 g Cocaine (Hydrochloride)
0.3 g Cocaine (Benzoylecgonine)
1 g Heroin
1 g Methadone
2 g Morphine
10 g Opium
1 g Amphetamine
0.1 g PCP