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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]smokotime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Also, I’m not much of a “brand whore” anymore. I believe the “guts” (component parts) of these TV’s are pretty much the same. [/quote]

Pretty true. Main difference with a lot of them is the support stuff, like power regulation components etc, where they cut corners to make more money. You can’t necessarily be sure that more expensive means top tier components, either. A good warranty is your friend.
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This I had a cheap LED with power regulator went out to replace was going to be as much as what I paid for the TV.

Not so much brand whore as quality whore, buying something cheap is not always the best option. [/quote]

Agreed, you get what you pay for.

Go have a look at a $3500 panel playing a bluray, you’ll see what I mean.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]smokotime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Also, I’m not much of a “brand whore” anymore. I believe the “guts” (component parts) of these TV’s are pretty much the same. [/quote]

Pretty true. Main difference with a lot of them is the support stuff, like power regulation components etc, where they cut corners to make more money. You can’t necessarily be sure that more expensive means top tier components, either. A good warranty is your friend.
[/quote]

This I had a cheap LED with power regulator went out to replace was going to be as much as what I paid for the TV.

Not so much brand whore as quality whore, buying something cheap is not always the best option. [/quote]

Agreed, you get what you pay for.

Go have a look at a $3500 panel playing a bluray, you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]

I saved for a year to go buy my 50 inch Toshiba Plasma.
I love Toshiba TV’s I had one for 12 years, that never gave me problems.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]smokotime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Also, I’m not much of a “brand whore” anymore. I believe the “guts” (component parts) of these TV’s are pretty much the same. [/quote]

Pretty true. Main difference with a lot of them is the support stuff, like power regulation components etc, where they cut corners to make more money. You can’t necessarily be sure that more expensive means top tier components, either. A good warranty is your friend.
[/quote]

This I had a cheap LED with power regulator went out to replace was going to be as much as what I paid for the TV.

Not so much brand whore as quality whore, buying something cheap is not always the best option. [/quote]

Agreed, you get what you pay for.

Go have a look at a $3500 panel playing a bluray, you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]

I think you need LOTS of disposable income to justify buying something like that.

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]smokotime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Also, I’m not much of a “brand whore” anymore. I believe the “guts” (component parts) of these TV’s are pretty much the same. [/quote]

Pretty true. Main difference with a lot of them is the support stuff, like power regulation components etc, where they cut corners to make more money. You can’t necessarily be sure that more expensive means top tier components, either. A good warranty is your friend.
[/quote]

This I had a cheap LED with power regulator went out to replace was going to be as much as what I paid for the TV.

Not so much brand whore as quality whore, buying something cheap is not always the best option. [/quote]

Agreed, you get what you pay for.

Go have a look at a $3500 panel playing a bluray, you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]

I think you need LOTS of disposable income to justify buying something like that.

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
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Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others.

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Man it’s sure hard not to covet the latest and greatest, especially now that 72’s are common, etc.

I recently moved into a bigger house. Now my living room is gigantic and my 50 feels small. But like BG said it’s hard to justify the money spent on something like a new TV when what you already have is still pretty kickass and works well.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
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Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others. [/quote]

I agree with BG - but it does depend how you invest in them, and what you use them for. IME A $400 TV isn’t going to last as long as one that costs $1500, and while I would likely never spend $3500 on a TV even if I did have the money, you still get what you pay for. I spent nearly 1500 on my current TV and while that’s not exactly an excessive amount, I’ll probably keep it for the next 4-6 years.

When I bought a computer, I spent the equivalent of $4k with the goal of keeping it for the next 5 years. If you spend a lot of time around your electronics, it’s far more enjoyable to use ones that won’t give you problems.

I guess my point is I’ve seen time and time again that you shouldn’t cheap out if you can afford not to, but also don’t go buying something that’s over the top just because “you have to have it”. Future proofing should be on everyone’s list when shopping for new electronics. Just because things go out of date within 6 months, doesn’t mean they need to be replaced at the same rate. This is what some companies have achieved with many of their customers.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
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Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others. [/quote]

I agree with BG - but it does depend how you invest in them, and what you use them for. IME A $400 TV isn’t going to last as long as one that costs $1500, and while I would likely never spend $3500 on a TV even if I did have the money, you still get what you pay for. I spent nearly 1500 on my current TV and while that’s not exactly an excessive amount, I’ll probably keep it for the next 4-6 years.

When I bought a computer, I spent the equivalent of $4k with the goal of keeping it for the next 5 years. If you spend a lot of time around your electronics, it’s far more enjoyable to use ones that won’t give you problems.

I guess my point is I’ve seen time and time again that you shouldn’t cheap out if you can afford not to, but also don’t go buying something that’s over the top just because “you have to have it”. Future proofing should be on everyone’s list when shopping for new electronics. Just because things go out of date within 6 months, doesn’t mean they need to be replaced at the same rate. This is what some companies have achieved with many of their customers.

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RS TV’s are not PC’s though was what I was getting at, I would not have spent the money I did on a plasma that only had 720. Mine was 1080 and HD, at this point 4 years later the only new Tech to come out was 3D. Which is lame and a fad in my opinion.

New tech will come out for TV’s I am sure but it does not move as fast as the PC world.

I will never forget the first Plasma Ad I saw from Best Buy when I was working ER one night, $49,000. I shit you not. Three years later it was already down to $5000.

I know something will come out, but right now the hard lines to handle the HD/1080 etc are just now getting every where.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]smokotime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Also, I’m not much of a “brand whore” anymore. I believe the “guts” (component parts) of these TV’s are pretty much the same. [/quote]

Pretty true. Main difference with a lot of them is the support stuff, like power regulation components etc, where they cut corners to make more money. You can’t necessarily be sure that more expensive means top tier components, either. A good warranty is your friend.
[/quote]

This I had a cheap LED with power regulator went out to replace was going to be as much as what I paid for the TV.

Not so much brand whore as quality whore, buying something cheap is not always the best option. [/quote]

Agreed, you get what you pay for.

Go have a look at a $3500 panel playing a bluray, you’ll see what I mean.[/quote]

I think you need LOTS of disposable income to justify buying something like that.

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
[/quote]

Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others. [/quote]

6 months is usually the tech turnover. “top of the line” in electronics is fleeting at best…ESPECIALLY with computers.

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Man it’s sure hard not to covet the latest and greatest, especially now that 72’s are common, etc.

I recently moved into a bigger house. Now my living room is gigantic and my 50 feels small. But like BG said it’s hard to justify the money spent on something like a new TV when what you already have is still pretty kickass and works well.

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72 gives me wood.

What is it about stupid shit like fighter jets, shiny cars, big screen tv’s etc. that will stop a man in his tracks and make him say “ooooooo” and “aaahhh”.

I used to shop at Sam’s Club quite a bit. Right when you walk in the door, they had the big screen line up. I must have saw the fucking line up once a week, but even still, every single time I’d walk slowly and internally go “ooooo”, “aaaahhhh”. LMFAO

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
[/quote]

Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others. [/quote]

I agree with BG - but it does depend how you invest in them, and what you use them for. IME A $400 TV isn’t going to last as long as one that costs $1500, and while I would likely never spend $3500 on a TV even if I did have the money, you still get what you pay for. I spent nearly 1500 on my current TV and while that’s not exactly an excessive amount, I’ll probably keep it for the next 4-6 years.

When I bought a computer, I spent the equivalent of $4k with the goal of keeping it for the next 5 years. If you spend a lot of time around your electronics, it’s far more enjoyable to use ones that won’t give you problems.

I guess my point is I’ve seen time and time again that you shouldn’t cheap out if you can afford not to, but also don’t go buying something that’s over the top just because “you have to have it”. Future proofing should be on everyone’s list when shopping for new electronics. Just because things go out of date within 6 months, doesn’t mean they need to be replaced at the same rate. This is what some companies have achieved with many of their customers.

[/quote]

Agreed. I don’t go cheap, but I go “reasonable”. After all, as you pointed out, you have to live with it for a bit.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Electronics in general (TV’s, computers) is a terrible use of your money - they depreciate at a terrible rate and the industry operates by “controlled obsolescence” - meaning that they are pumping out product every six months that not only makes your technology “old”, but devalues it too.
[/quote]

Hard to argue that point BG, however that was my point. I paid almost that much 3-4 years ago, and it was “top” of the line. I wanted quality. I took a gamble on where Tech was going to go. I bought something that should stand up to test of time for 10-12 years. But that was just one TV. I follow your train of thought for all the others. [/quote]

I agree with BG - but it does depend how you invest in them, and what you use them for. IME A $400 TV isn’t going to last as long as one that costs $1500, and while I would likely never spend $3500 on a TV even if I did have the money, you still get what you pay for. I spent nearly 1500 on my current TV and while that’s not exactly an excessive amount, I’ll probably keep it for the next 4-6 years.

When I bought a computer, I spent the equivalent of $4k with the goal of keeping it for the next 5 years. If you spend a lot of time around your electronics, it’s far more enjoyable to use ones that won’t give you problems.

I guess my point is I’ve seen time and time again that you shouldn’t cheap out if you can afford not to, but also don’t go buying something that’s over the top just because “you have to have it”. Future proofing should be on everyone’s list when shopping for new electronics. Just because things go out of date within 6 months, doesn’t mean they need to be replaced at the same rate. This is what some companies have achieved with many of their customers.

[/quote]

RS TV’s are not PC’s though was what I was getting at, I would not have spent the money I did on a plasma that only had 720. Mine was 1080 and HD, at this point 4 years later the only new Tech to come out was 3D. Which is lame and a fad in my opinion.

New tech will come out for TV’s I am sure but it does not move as fast as the PC world.

I will never forget the first Plasma Ad I saw from Best Buy when I was working ER one night, $49,000. I shit you not. Three years later it was already down to $5000.

I know something will come out, but right now the hard lines to handle the HD/1080 etc are just now getting every where. [/quote]

this is exactly what makes plasma a great value in my opinion. we can debate picture quality forever (and that’s really just a “beauty contest”) but seriously, how many of us are serious AV buffs? the price of plasma is reflective of the age of the technology, not necessarily implicit of “inferiority”. I think the general public as an idea that they are inferior. in that sense, i’ll give the guys at Best Buy credit b/c they educated me too, and then when i did my own research, it confirmed this.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
RS TV’s are not PC’s though was what I was getting at, I would not have spent the money I did on a plasma that only had 720. Mine was 1080 and HD, at this point 4 years later the only new Tech to come out was 3D. Which is lame and a fad in my opinion.

New tech will come out for TV’s I am sure but it does not move as fast as the PC world.

I will never forget the first Plasma Ad I saw from Best Buy when I was working ER one night, $49,000. I shit you not. Three years later it was already down to $5000.

I know something will come out, but right now the hard lines to handle the HD/1080 etc are just now getting every where. [/quote]

Of course, you future proofed your purchase and it cost a more at the time. I get that. The difference at the guys who do spend the same amount every year when there is no real need for it.

HD resolution will be around for a while still, considering how everything only recently takes advantage of it. The next thing I’ve seen coming is QuadHD resolution TVs, but my guess is these will take a while to become mainstream.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I got this one open boxed for $650… Yeah, it’s DLP and about 16" thick, but what’s the point of a wall mount TV when you still need all this shit below it (ps3, cable box, etc)

and the picture is amazing

http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-WD-65638-65-Inch-3D-Ready-HDTV/dp/B003HIPKR0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315452008&sr=8-1

I got the internet model, which I haven’t really tested yet[/quote]

I had a mitsubishi DLP and it had a GREAT picture…but the “flashing green light of death” hit me many years later and we retired that fucker :slight_smile: I like DLP. And you’re right…if you’re not mounting and space isn’t an issue, wtf.[/quote]

Doesn’t that light mean it’s time to change the bulb. I have a 65" Mitsubishi and a 46" Samsung. Just changed the bulb in the Samsung and it’s good as new. Buy an OEM bulb though, I bought a cheaper one and it only lasted 6 months.

Love the DLP’s overall, great picture for not a lot of money.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I got this one open boxed for $650… Yeah, it’s DLP and about 16" thick, but what’s the point of a wall mount TV when you still need all this shit below it (ps3, cable box, etc)

and the picture is amazing

I got the internet model, which I haven’t really tested yet[/quote]

I had a mitsubishi DLP and it had a GREAT picture…but the “flashing green light of death” hit me many years later and we retired that fucker :slight_smile: I like DLP. And you’re right…if you’re not mounting and space isn’t an issue, wtf.[/quote]

Doesn’t that light mean it’s time to change the bulb. I have a 65" Mitsubishi and a 46" Samsung. Just changed the bulb in the Samsung and it’s good as new. Buy an OEM bulb though, I bought a cheaper one and it only lasted 6 months.

Love the DLP’s overall, great picture for not a lot of money.[/quote]

Wasn’t just the light. It was a well known motherboard type issue that was a problem specific to mitsubishi’s. like i said, beautiful TV…I think it was like 5k new when it first came out and my mother and her husband gave it to me after they replaced a bulb the first time. i got maybe a year out of it. over all i think it’s life span was about 7 years. beautiful tv, great picture…caused great pain to literally put it outside on the curb. someone came and picked it up lol. good luck with that.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I got this one open boxed for $650… Yeah, it’s DLP and about 16" thick, but what’s the point of a wall mount TV when you still need all this shit below it (ps3, cable box, etc)

and the picture is amazing

I got the internet model, which I haven’t really tested yet[/quote]

I had a mitsubishi DLP and it had a GREAT picture…but the “flashing green light of death” hit me many years later and we retired that fucker :slight_smile: I like DLP. And you’re right…if you’re not mounting and space isn’t an issue, wtf.[/quote]

Doesn’t that light mean it’s time to change the bulb. I have a 65" Mitsubishi and a 46" Samsung. Just changed the bulb in the Samsung and it’s good as new. Buy an OEM bulb though, I bought a cheaper one and it only lasted 6 months.

Love the DLP’s overall, great picture for not a lot of money.[/quote]

Wasn’t just the light. It was a well known motherboard type issue that was a problem specific to mitsubishi’s. like i said, beautiful TV…I think it was like 5k new when it first came out and my mother and her husband gave it to me after they replaced a bulb the first time. i got maybe a year out of it. over all i think it’s life span was about 7 years. beautiful tv, great picture…caused great pain to literally put it outside on the curb. someone came and picked it up lol. good luck with that.
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That sucks. Still, for the price it’s now cheaper to replace it every 7 years. I paid under a grand for my Mitsubishi 1080p 65" with a Bluray player thrown in.