[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
I’m all for it. Whose business is it what somebody else puts in to their own body? Nobody’s.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
My guess is none.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
Unlike you Zeb I am not trying to justify it , I am trying to have a conversation about it. See if you stick your finger in your ears and talk loader than the person you are talking to . It does not mean you have had a meaningful dialog .
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
My guess is none.[/quote]
What?
You mean your departments want you sober?
Pray tell, why!?!
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
Unlike you Zeb I am not trying to justify it , I am trying to have a conversation about it. See if you stick your finger in your ears and talk loader than the person you are talking to . It does not mean you have had a meaningful dialog .
[/quote]
That cant be true.
Given where he gets his “facts” from, there is no way that he has fingers in both ears.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
Good job avoiding the question. Wait a minute, actually…no, no it wasn’t. That was a terrible job avoiding the question.
But since I’m a helluva damn good guy, I’ll answer YOUR question; I have never smoked pot in my life. I’ve never even smoked a cigarette to be honest. Which is strange really considering all my friends growing up smoked pot and did drugs.
Your support for prohibition is strange, ZEB.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
Unlike you Zeb I am not trying to justify it , I am trying to have a conversation about it. See if you stick your finger in your ears and talk loader than the person you are talking to . It does not mean you have had a meaningful dialog .
[/quote]
You are making less sense than you usually do with that one. I’ve given several reasons why pot should not be legalized. Now why don’t you list the many positive things that pot does for society and why it should be legalized.
“But um…it’s no worse than alcohol…maaaaaan…”
See that’s not a good reason to legalize it.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
Good job avoiding the question. Wait a minute, actually…no, no it wasn’t. That was a terrible job avoiding the question.
But since I’m a helluva damn good guy, I’ll answer YOUR question; I have never smoked pot in my life. I’ve never even smoked a cigarette to be honest. Which is strange really considering all my friends growing up smoked pot and did drugs.
Your support for prohibition is strange, ZEB.
[/quote]
I didn’t want to get into the pot is worse than alcohol debate. It would lead to a series of links posted by me with counter links posted by you. The Internet is rife with all sorts of information for both sides.
Yes, I think pots worse shall we start posting links, move to the actual topic or…what do you want to do?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
Unlike you Zeb I am not trying to justify it , I am trying to have a conversation about it. See if you stick your finger in your ears and talk loader than the person you are talking to . It does not mean you have had a meaningful dialog .
[/quote]
That cant be true.
Given where he gets his “facts” from, there is no way that he has fingers in both ears. [/quote]
Silly Rabbit. My good friend Zeb has always had one of those fingers in his ass. It’s good for the prostate.
Legalize it. Quit throwing people in jail for this and concentrate on things that matter…like more realistic breast implants or a way to send the Ebola virus straight to Al Quaida
Ya know, if it wasn’t for the fact that their is & I’m sure always will be an enormous gaping chasm between the sheer volume of total crimes committed & the succesful, detection, arrest & prosecution rate of criminals etc, I might, at least in THEORY, be for BOTH the prohibition of alcohol & weed.
Things is though, alcohol prohibition didn’t work. Plus, In Holland the rate of cannabis use per person is actually LOWER than in the US (as is the prevalence of other typically drug related problems ie, moving on to harder drugs, dependency, suicide etc) <<Of course that’s not an entirely fair comparison, many cultural differences would have to be accounted for before concluding, YUP, weed is A OK! That being said though, it certainly raises a lot of doubts about the wisdom of the (often) uber-simplistic prohibition arguments to say the least.
Also, MANY of the biggest cannabis users are also non-drinkers OR only very LIGHT imbibers…so you could argue, since (like it or not), if people are going get their mind alltering ‘fix’ (& potentially get hooked) if you have choose between STRONG fix A & weak fix B, cannabis is the ‘lesser of two evils’.
Of course, if you’ve never smoked weed before or even actually seen people toking before & grew up (as I did) with a rather warped view on illegal drugs I suppose it may be perfectly understandable for some to effectively tar all drugs with the same rather clumsy brush.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Silly Rabbit. My good friend Zeb has always had one of those fingers in his ass. It’s good for the prostate.
Legalize it. Quit throwing people in jail for this and concentrate on things that matter…like more realistic breast implants or a way to send the Ebola virus straight to Al Quaida[/quote]
I’ll say this about you, you don’t post here much anymore but when you do you certainly don’t add anything of substance to the debate. Hey…Just like when you used to post on a regular basis.
I always like to see consistency in people.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
Good job avoiding the question. Wait a minute, actually…no, no it wasn’t. That was a terrible job avoiding the question.
But since I’m a helluva damn good guy, I’ll answer YOUR question; I have never smoked pot in my life. I’ve never even smoked a cigarette to be honest. Which is strange really considering all my friends growing up smoked pot and did drugs.
Your support for prohibition is strange, ZEB.
[/quote]
I didn’t want to get into the pot is worse than alcohol debate. It would lead to a series of links posted by me with counter links posted by you. The Internet is rife with all sorts of information for both sides.
Yes, I think pots worse shall we start posting links, move to the actual topic or…what do you want to do?
[/quote]
Sure, post your links and back up your position. But you also need to tell me why you back the governments prohibition on weed, and why the states benefit from our foolish, embarrassing, and wasteful war on drugs.
I thought you liked smaller government with more personal freedom?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
Unlike you Zeb I am not trying to justify it , I am trying to have a conversation about it. See if you stick your finger in your ears and talk loader than the person you are talking to . It does not mean you have had a meaningful dialog .
[/quote]
That cant be true.
Given where he gets his “facts” from, there is no way that he has fingers in both ears. [/quote]
Silly Rabbit. My good friend Zeb has always had one of those fingers in his ass. It’s good for the prostate.
Legalize it. Quit throwing people in jail for this and concentrate on things that matter…like more realistic breast implants or a way to send the Ebola virus straight to Al Quaida[/quote]
I am sorry, I need to retract my comment, if he actually were to have his head up his ass, he could very well have fingers in both ears and mine for facts.
My apologies for not realizing this sooner.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Sure, post your links and back up your position. But you also need to tell me why you back the governments prohibition on weed, and why the states benefit from our foolish, embarrassing, and wasteful war on drugs.
I thought you liked smaller government with more personal freedom?
[/quote]
No, he firmly believes that e pluribus unum is Latin for “Freedom for me but not for thee”.
Given the whole slavery business he would also not be entirely wrong.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
Good job avoiding the question. Wait a minute, actually…no, no it wasn’t. That was a terrible job avoiding the question.
But since I’m a helluva damn good guy, I’ll answer YOUR question; I have never smoked pot in my life. I’ve never even smoked a cigarette to be honest. Which is strange really considering all my friends growing up smoked pot and did drugs.
Your support for prohibition is strange, ZEB.
[/quote]
I didn’t want to get into the pot is worse than alcohol debate. It would lead to a series of links posted by me with counter links posted by you. The Internet is rife with all sorts of information for both sides.
Yes, I think pots worse shall we start posting links, move to the actual topic or…what do you want to do?
[/quote]
Sure, post your links and back up your position. But you also need to tell me why you back the governments prohibition on weed, and why the states benefit from our foolish, embarrassing, and wasteful war on drugs.
I thought you liked smaller government with more personal freedom?
[/quote]
You’ve got that backwards. You have to post your links and tell me why it should be legalized. Since it’s already illegal you must give some compelling reasons why it should be legalized.
Anyone can sit on the sidelines and cherry pick any law claiming it should be dropped from the books. From speeding to prostitution to various drug laws. I’ve heard plenty of clamor from the loony libertarians but nothing of substance ever…ever to back it up. Now get busy and give me a good logical argument why pot should be legalized. If it’s a good argument I’ll agree with you. So far on this thread I’ve read mostly a bunch of bluster from those who use pot (not everyone) and don’t like worrying about getting busted for it.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Told you before Pittski, you cannot justify legalization of pot by claiming that alcohol is also bad. Basically what you and the idiot who wrote that article is saying is that they’re both bad so why not legalize pot. If pot is as bad as alcohol (and in my opinion it’s worse) then we will about double the traffic fatalities, health costs and the many legal and social problems that come with alcohol.
Not a good way to win anyone over to your argument. If you cannot justify legalizing pot without mentioning how bad alcohol is ALSO, then you lost the debate.
[/quote]
How is it worse? Why should the government care?
[/quote]
How much pot do you smoke during the course of a month?[/quote]
Good job avoiding the question. Wait a minute, actually…no, no it wasn’t. That was a terrible job avoiding the question.
But since I’m a helluva damn good guy, I’ll answer YOUR question; I have never smoked pot in my life. I’ve never even smoked a cigarette to be honest. Which is strange really considering all my friends growing up smoked pot and did drugs.
Your support for prohibition is strange, ZEB.
[/quote]
I didn’t want to get into the pot is worse than alcohol debate. It would lead to a series of links posted by me with counter links posted by you. The Internet is rife with all sorts of information for both sides.
Yes, I think pots worse shall we start posting links, move to the actual topic or…what do you want to do?
[/quote]
Sure, post your links and back up your position. But you also need to tell me why you back the governments prohibition on weed, and why the states benefit from our foolish, embarrassing, and wasteful war on drugs.
I thought you liked smaller government with more personal freedom?
[/quote]
You’ve got that backwards. You have to post your links and tell me why it should be legalized. Since it’s already illegal you must give some compelling reasons why it should be legalized.
Anyone can sit on the sidelines and cherry pick any law claiming it should be dropped from the books. From speeding to prostitution to various drug laws. I’ve heard plenty of clamor from the loony libertarians but nothing of substance ever…ever to back it up. Now get busy and give me a good logical argument why pot should be legalized. If it’s a good argument I’ll agree with you. So far on this thread I’ve read mostly a bunch of bluster from those who use pot (not everyone) and don’t like worrying about getting busted for it. [/quote]
Interesting:
Was "the negroes are going to rape the white wimmenz !!!11eleventy! !!!OMGDZ!! a compelling reason to make it illegal?
And if anyone thinks I am exaggerating, the Anslinger quotes are online.
Ah, fuck it:
…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.
There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.
Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.
So, in light of this watertight case against weed, I guess it really had to be made illegal.