[quote]orion wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Mage wrote:
See, your strawman must only be subtly different than the original argument and yet have a deadly weakness.
This was not a straw man fallacy.
By ordinary logic as you and I know it, true - but Orion and Lixy have a different definition, tucked away in Lixy’s secret tome, and, by God, they simply won’t be encumbered by this whole logic thing, no matter what anyone says.
That must be like the crystal castle where you keep your reasons for denigrating all those mind washed Paulites that disagree with you on Lincoln and the civil war even though Judge Napolitano, and that is were they get it from, knows the history of your constitution and the civil war far better than you.
Or maybe it is in the at the end of the rainbow where you store your ability to say you were wrong even if it has been proven to you beyond any doubt by citing the fucking words of the law, several court findings and by the shining light on the way to Damascus itself.
Or, in other words, your inability to reason or to admit when your wrong makes it kind of hard to accept your “ordinary” logic which is nothing but mental, debris washed up on your mental shore, never analyzed, never questioned, never put together to form a coherent view of things.
Kind of a MSM programmed Joe Average on a slightly higher level with words that are a little bigger.
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Thunderbolt, Mage,
There is a simple rule in psychiatry: insanity should not be an infectious disease.
There is no reasoning with a lunatic; and you may risk catching his habits. These loonies–and on this subject, at least, Orion is among them–cannot acknowledge warehouses of original material, libraries of books and histories and easily verifiable facts because it all does not fit their preconceived lunacy. Instead, their source of Belief–and it is belief, not history or fact–is a nest of squirrels in Auburn, Alabama, headed by Ron Paul and his amanuensis Lew Rockwell, and supported by one Judge Napolitano.
Anyone reading Napolitano’s bio might be impressed; I am certain he makes a good legal commentator for FOX and he wanted to be Ron Paul’s vice president. (Aha. See wiki, once more.) But his contentions fly in the face of every legitimate historian over the last one hundred forty years. At least Paul or Rockwell or diLorenzo found one jurist as an anchor; may we ask how many legitimate consitutional scholars and jurists would consider him a laughable pariah.
There is no point in discussing Looney Orion’s theories on the Civil War and the Constitution. He has been shown the truth and is blind to it, blinder than Paul on the road to Damascus. He will never see the light, because he has caught the madness, the madness that rejects categorically fact, convention and legitimacy . The Looney gnashes his teeth and rejects verifiable reality because Paulism, or Rockwellism, or whatever aberation of “Libertarianism” religious fanatacism–cannot stand the simplest challenge of the truth.
No, Orion, do not bother to respond. I will not respond to you because your ideas in this matter or so strange, so wrong, that they are beneath further discussion. You understand very little of what little you read in this matter, and your sources are false and corrupt. You do not know the first thing about which you write. To persist flagrantly in error is just too embarrassing. Have some mercy, for the sake of whatever demented notions in which you believe!