[quote]Gkhan wrote:
will to power wrote:
But you are correct, it would not be in your interest to interfere too greatly if you are a third party. Though there are of course various measures specific to the situation if you so chose to aid the populace. These things can be delicate as hell and a huge headache, as I’m guessing you’ve witnessed over the last few years.
I feel it would not be in our interest to interfere with the Muslim world anymore, because for one, they are backstabbing S.O.B’s. (we helped them in Afghanistan, set up their oil operation and pulled them out of the fire in Kosovo and we get hell for it.)
The other reason is because they are so homicidal in nature, any interference whether good or bad, causes them to kill both others or themselves.
So, yes, non-interference is a good idea. Let the bastards slaughter themselves like it’s 1550.[/quote]
Are Americans homicidal in nature because of the American civil war? Sometimes issues exist that precipitate violence, and they exist in every people’s history at some time or another.
As for ‘backstabbing’, are the non-Taliban Afghanis attacking coalition troops? If not, what are you talking about?
Finally, is it Muslims you’re getting hell from about Kosovo?
At least we agree on our conclusions, if not the reasoning behind it…
You called me on something that happened only in your imagination. Explaining why someone does something doesn’t mean you’re justifying it. Are you really too thick to understand that? It’s not a complicated concept.
The vast majority of people on this forum seem to be unable to grasp this point.[/quote]
I’m glad some people can figure it out though.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
At any point the government truly becomes intolerable to the people, they will slough it no matter how tyrannical.
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Unless you’ve been through a revolution or a civil war before, saying that is a bit rich.
[quote]will to power wrote:
At least we agree on our conclusions, if not the reasoning behind it…[/quote]
You have a point.
But they way I see it, any intervention in the Muslim world, good or bad, is seen by them as bad. My take is, leave them alone so that they can self destruct as they deserve to. We have lost enough and gained nothing by dealing with them.
We should nationalize anything which the Saudis or the UAE own in this country and cut all ties. After all, if a socialist country does so, it is seen as great.
It is time we follow suit.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
will to power wrote:
At least we agree on our conclusions, if not the reasoning behind it…
You have a point.
But they way I see it, any intervention in the Muslim world, good or bad, is seen by them as bad. My take is, leave them alone so that they can self destruct as they deserve to. We have lost enough and gained nothing by dealing with them.
We should nationalize anything which the Saudis or the UAE own in this country and cut all ties. After all, if a socialist country does so, it is seen as great.
It is time we follow suit.[/quote]
My point of view on the nationalisation thing is if you pay them the value (actual, not some crazy inflated number like always gets thrown around in these situations) then your government has every right to do that. Most governments can do that with their citizens property if they want to expand an airport or something, so why not foreign nationals?
You’ll find the Arab world won’t self-destruct if you leave. There may be some serious wars coming up, but as I said before, there are issues that end up in war and are solved by war that occur in all people’s histories. This too shall pass.