[quote]alstan90 wrote:
I think you all missed the point. KFC are specifically using a type of trans fat that is perticuarly harmful; just because it is marginally cheaper for them to do so. [/quote]
Not missing the point at all…
Trans Fats bad.
Trans Fats in frying oil.
KFC uses frying oil on most items on the menu, been using long before trans fats dicovered bad.
Frying oil legal.
Trans fats in frying oil are legal.
KFC is company dedicated to profit, not to the well being of the public. Most companies are concerned with profit. Otherwise, you could get help at Home Depot when you need it instead of buying a tool, banging youself in the hand, going to the doctor, missing work, then suing Home Depot because nobody told me and they didn’t have a sign that said I might get hurt if I build by own deck. But I digress.
The point is, if you don’t want trans fats, don’t eat K FRIED C, McD’s or anyone else. Don’t go to any restaurants, bakeries, or delis. Don’t eat any chinese food, especially egg and spring rolls. Take responsibility for your own actions, read ingredients on prepared food packages, take your fish oil caps, and whatever you do, don’t smoke when pumping gas into your car. But that’s another story…
KFC is company dedicated to profit, not to the well being of the public. Most companies are concerned with profit.[/quote]
Did you ever happen to think that perhaps lawsuits such as these (consumer protection suits) are a step in the direction of making such harmful and sociopathic practices illegal? If I sell you poison and tell you its food, who exactly is the asshole here anyways?
As far as I’m concerned, they never made it well enough known that they were switching from natural fats to manufactured poisons. Do you remember a marketing campaign a few decades back “Hey guys, we’re selling you poison now, but it looks and tastes a lot like the food we’d been selling. Just FYI!”… No, I guess that wouldn’t have gone over too well.
Well, these lawsuits are here to change that. Get used to it, and get off your fucking high horses. Not everyone has such leisure time to indulge in their health and then post on T-Nation about their perceived superiority.
KFC is company dedicated to profit, not to the well being of the public. Most companies are concerned with profit.
Did you ever happen to think that perhaps lawsuits such as these (consumer protection suits) are a step in the direction of making such harmful and sociopathic practices illegal? If I sell you poison and tell you its food, who exactly is the asshole here anyways?
As far as I’m concerned, they never made it well enough known that they were switching from natural fats to manufactured poisons. Do you remember a marketing campaign a few decades back “Hey guys, we’re selling you poison now, but it looks and tastes a lot like the food we’d been selling. Just FYI!”… No, I guess that wouldn’t have gone over too well.
Well, these lawsuits are here to change that. Get used to it, and get off your fucking high horses. Not everyone has such leisure time to indulge in their health and then post on T-Nation about their perceived superiority.
We’re just lucky that way.[/quote]
Wow. Talk about high horse. Don’t have to be special to know that fried food (which isn’t poison) isn’t good for you and the government can’t and shouldn’t dictate everything we do.
KFC is company dedicated to profit, not to the well being of the public. Most companies are concerned with profit.
Did you ever happen to think that perhaps lawsuits such as these (consumer protection suits) are a step in the direction of making such harmful and sociopathic practices illegal? If I sell you poison and tell you its food, who exactly is the asshole here anyways?
As far as I’m concerned, they never made it well enough known that they were switching from natural fats to manufactured poisons. Do you remember a marketing campaign a few decades back “Hey guys, we’re selling you poison now, but it looks and tastes a lot like the food we’d been selling. Just FYI!”… No, I guess that wouldn’t have gone over too well.
Well, these lawsuits are here to change that. Get used to it, and get off your fucking high horses. Not everyone has such leisure time to indulge in their health and then post on T-Nation about their perceived superiority.
We’re just lucky that way.[/quote]
If you don’t have sense enough to look after you own health then you deserve whatever happens. There are plenty of ways to cook quickly and easily. I love hearing about how some people “don’t have time” to exercise, eat right, or otherwise take care of themselves, but
can keep up with 3 different TV shows.
KFC is company dedicated to profit, not to the well being of the public. Most companies are concerned with profit.
Did you ever happen to think that perhaps lawsuits such as these (consumer protection suits) are a step in the direction of making such harmful and sociopathic practices illegal? If I sell you poison and tell you its food, who exactly is the asshole here anyways?
As far as I’m concerned, they never made it well enough known that they were switching from natural fats to manufactured poisons. Do you remember a marketing campaign a few decades back “Hey guys, we’re selling you poison now, but it looks and tastes a lot like the food we’d been selling. Just FYI!”… No, I guess that wouldn’t have gone over too well.
Well, these lawsuits are here to change that. Get used to it, and get off your fucking high horses. Not everyone has such leisure time to indulge in their health and then post on T-Nation about their perceived superiority.
We’re just lucky that way.[/quote]
If it’s a legal product and they list their ingredients, I don’t see the issue.
I dislike regulation via lawsuit – if they are going to ban trans fats, ban them. But if they’re legal and they’re complying with regulations concerning letting customers know what the ingredients are, that should not make them liable for monetary damages.
[quote]Kailash wrote:
If I sell you poison and tell you its food, who exactly is the asshole here anyways?
–I guess that would be you.
As far as I’m concerned, they never made it well enough known that they were switching from natural fats to manufactured poisons.
–KFC has never used “natural fats”, hence they never made it known that they were switching. McDonald’s, on the other hand, announced in 2002 that they were switching, yet four years later have not.
Well, these lawsuits are here to change that. Get used to it, and get off your fucking high horses. Not everyone has such leisure time to indulge in their health and then post on T-Nation about their perceived superiority.
–These lawsuits are here so some lawyer can get his fifteen minutes and some money to go away. Unfortunately, I am all too used to it.
–Thanks, but I like my horse, not too tall but I can see fine.
–If you ever feel the need to indulge your health with a nice big fat load of fast food I could give two craps.
You probably did, too.
–If enough people decided they didn’t want to eat at KFC because of high trans fats, YUM would change the oils that they use and would proclaim it to the world. But instead, people keep waddling through the doors wanting a three piece dinner with double mash potatoes and a diet drink…
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I just skimmed that complaint. Those attorneys need to go back to law school and relearn the doctrine of implied warranty of merchantability. [/quote]
I don’t necessarily think this lawsuit is justified but I am not someone who chooses to see this as a simple matter of “personal responsibility”. If it were just a matter of CHOICE than the number of truly lean, healthy people in America would not be so small and the rates of obesity and related chronic diseases would not be so ASTRONOMICALLY high- who would chose that? IMO, the healthy lifestyle is sharply contradictory to human nature. Millions of people are trying HARD to improve their health and failing miserably because they can’t control their behavior. They continue eating themselves to death even though they’re fully aware of the consequences of their behavior and are fully concerned about these consequences. Most people here simply cannot empathize with that (which is probably a good thing, for them).
KFC is putting a known POISON into peoples’ food. And let’s not forget that a lot of parents are feeding this disgusting, horrible shit to children who are too young to appreciate how bad it is for them. It’s deplorable. Fuck KFC.
[quote]alstan90 wrote:
I think you all missed the point. KFC are specifically using a type of trans fat that is perticuarly harmful; just because it is marginally cheaper for them to do so. [/quote]
I agree. I think trans fats should be removed or severely cut down from all foods. I think its about time someone held these companies responsible.
Remember, your average joe doesn’t even know what a trans fat is. He eats fried chicken assuming its, well, fried chicked, not some chemically processed fatty acid.
[quote]Drew0786 wrote:
I know KFC is bad for me. That is why I my choices for fried chicken are Popeyes or Churches.[/quote]
Word! Popeyes chicken kicks ass!
Question: Isn’t “Center for Science in the Public Interest” – the group filing the lawsuit against KFC – the name used by the asswipes at PETA?
Thus, I strongly suspect this has less to do with unhealthy transfat and more to do with PETA’s ongoing vegan agenda. They’ve been after KFC for a long time now.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
I don’t necessarily think this lawsuit is justified but I am not someone who chooses to see this as a simple matter of “personal responsibility”. If it were just a matter of CHOICE than the number of truly lean, healthy people in America would not be so small and the rates of obesity and related chronic diseases would not be so ASTRONOMICALLY high- who would chose that? IMO, the healthy lifestyle is sharply contradictory to human nature. Millions of people are trying HARD to improve their health and failing miserably because they can’t control their behavior. They continue eating themselves to death even though they’re fully aware of the consequences of their behavior and are fully concerned about these consequences. Most people here simply cannot empathize with that (which is probably a good thing, for them).
KFC is putting a known POISON into peoples’ food. And let’s not forget that a lot of parents are feeding this disgusting, horrible shit to children who are too young to appreciate how bad it is for them. It’s deplorable. Fuck KFC. [/quote]
It is a matter of choice. Nobody is forcing people to eat at these shitholes. Who doesn’t know that fast food is total garbage, trans fats or not? If they are trying so hard, what’s keeping KFC in business? It’s seems to me it’s harder to make the turn into the drive-thru than it is to go past it. If they can’t control themselves, then maybe they need to work on that. People know the consequences of many different things, and I imagine some care. It sure doesn’t stop them from committing crimes, cheating on their wives, doing coke, whatever. Are you gonna tell me they had no choice, that it was beyond their control? Hogwash. These companies DO need to be penalized, though. Americans could use some help in the fight against obesity.
Many of you are making the personal responsibility argument, but neglecting KFC’s responsibility…
Many of you seem to be anti-fat in general (“fried foods are bad, mmmkay?”) which goes to show that you might not know too much about nutrition either…
Many of you probably get ripped off at the auto mechanic, and would fight for your rights if you knew any better. It’s no different than someone getting poisoned at KFC and not knowing any better. Just a different field of knowledge, and we can’t all be experts in everything.
[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
Question: Isn’t “Center for Science in the Public Interest” – the group filing the lawsuit against KFC – the name used by the asswipes at PETA?
Thus, I strongly suspect this has less to do with unhealthy transfat and more to do with PETA’s ongoing vegan agenda. They’ve been after KFC for a long time now.[/quote]
I’m getting these fringe groups all mixed up. The group I was thinking of that PETA always hides behind when trying to sound authoritative is “Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.”
The Center for Science in the Public Interest is instead connected with Ralph Nader’s group.
If it’s a legal product and they list their ingredients, I don’t see the issue.
I dislike regulation via lawsuit – if they are going to ban trans fats, ban them. But if they’re legal and they’re complying with regulations concerning letting customers know what the ingredients are, that should not make them liable for monetary damages.[/quote]
i like this view. but, i still don’t understand how the tobacco thing went down w/o making cigarettes illegal…anyway from reading the complaint it seems the major issue is that kfc, at least in the d.c. area, was purposely not disclosing the use of trans-fats to the their customers. and if that’s true, then i’d say it’s not so frivolous.
"51. kfc’s past and continued failures to disclose that it’s food item are prepared w/ trans fat etc…
cease using trans fat etc…
take all necessary action to insure that d.c consumers know etc…"