Keylogger Recommendations?

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]staystrong wrote:

You found a notebook, on the bed? Like, sitting on the bed? And all of these comments/tips just sitting there?

Seems a little odd.[/quote]

You know, most women are not actually that good.

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No. Most women who are inclined to this are VERY good. Way better at deceit than most men are.

This woman is not ready to give him up. She wanted him to find the note book. She wants it all to come out and maybe somehow the marriage be saved.[/quote]

Deceit is not a one way street, look at his response.

They indeed count on him not being able to count and to have the warm and fuzzies.

If you do not have the warm and fuzzies, their manouvering seems lacking.

This is one of the things I truly find infuriating, that shit only works if you genuinely care. [/quote]

I have a hard time believing she left a notebook out on the bed accidentally. We can tell the guy isn’t stupid so she’s got to know it too.

What reason could she have for leaving it out? Maybe to be hurtful but I think probably not because keeping him in the dark for as long as possible is most advantageous to her.

By the way, I think some degree of “deceit”, if we want to call it that, is justified. As a guy, if you find enough warning signs, hiring a PI or installing a key logger, or planting GPS are all not only justified but also smart things to do.[/quote]
Yeah I see where we talk about “deceit” being a two-way street. I don’t necessarily agree(it could just be the semantics of it all) but i respect that viewpoint. I would agree if I had no intention of telling her what I did if i were to be wrong. The thing is, I am not wrong. My mind is made up about what I need to do, but in order to not get screwed in the long run, I need to do this.

About the book being out by accident vs on purpose, i am undecided on it. too hard to tell.

Oh and about my wife thinking whether I am smart or not…she thinks all men are dumb, for the most part. Its “in our nature”.

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[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

At worst you’re going to see a web of deceit and bullshit much deeper than you imagined.[/quote]

Yup, but to actually have seen that is VERY educational. [/quote]

maybe, but shit its the internet age, its not like theres any shortage of stories of horrible deceit by women out there.

May as well save himself the grief, he already knows shes getting double dicked, unless theres legal reasons on the table just tell the ho to pack her shit and then delete her number.[/quote]
theres kids, house involved. i need leverage besides the revenge[/quote]

If that’s the case get a god damned lawyer. That leverage may not be worth anything if you got it illegally.

Damn it, Orion beat me again! [/quote]
The leverage might not be worth anything legally is one thing, but I dont ever plan on producing that as actual evidence. This is a town that we are all settled into, and everyone knows everyone. [/quote]

Announcing on a public forum that you are going to cheat in discovery is a a bad litigation plan. You also realize that everything you are posting on here is also discoverable in litigation/divorce proceedings? All of your screen names and passwords are discoverable and if she has a good lawyer they will find out everywhere you post. Assuming they won’t find this shit is also a bad litigation plan.

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I’ll also add that most courts don’t view revenge plots favorably under “best interest of the child” standards during custody disputes.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

At worst you’re going to see a web of deceit and bullshit much deeper than you imagined.[/quote]

Yup, but to actually have seen that is VERY educational. [/quote]

maybe, but shit its the internet age, its not like theres any shortage of stories of horrible deceit by women out there.

May as well save himself the grief, he already knows shes getting double dicked, unless theres legal reasons on the table just tell the ho to pack her shit and then delete her number.[/quote]
theres kids, house involved. i need leverage besides the revenge[/quote]

If that’s the case get a god damned lawyer. That leverage may not be worth anything if you got it illegally.

Damn it, Orion beat me again! [/quote]
The leverage might not be worth anything legally is one thing, but I dont ever plan on producing that as actual evidence. This is a town that we are all settled into, and everyone knows everyone. [/quote]

Announcing on a public forum that you are going to cheat in discovery is a a bad litigation plan. You also realize that everything you are posting on here is also discoverable in litigation/divorce proceedings? All of your screen names and passwords are discoverable and if she has a good lawyer they will find out everywhere you post. Assuming they won’t find this shit is also a bad litigation plan.

[/quote]
You seem like a CSI:New York kinda guy. am i right?

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I’ll also add that most courts don’t view revenge plots favorably under “best interest of the child” standards during custody disputes. [/quote]

Given it’s HIS home computer and his wife, I think there could be a huge argument that the expectation to privacy does not exist. It’s like working on your company computer. Anything you do on that computer is subject to company monitoring.

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[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

At worst you’re going to see a web of deceit and bullshit much deeper than you imagined.[/quote]

Yup, but to actually have seen that is VERY educational. [/quote]

maybe, but shit its the internet age, its not like theres any shortage of stories of horrible deceit by women out there.

May as well save himself the grief, he already knows shes getting double dicked, unless theres legal reasons on the table just tell the ho to pack her shit and then delete her number.[/quote]
theres kids, house involved. i need leverage besides the revenge[/quote]

If that’s the case get a god damned lawyer. That leverage may not be worth anything if you got it illegally.

Damn it, Orion beat me again! [/quote]
The leverage might not be worth anything legally is one thing, but I dont ever plan on producing that as actual evidence. This is a town that we are all settled into, and everyone knows everyone. [/quote]

Announcing on a public forum that you are going to cheat in discovery is a a bad litigation plan. You also realize that everything you are posting on here is also discoverable in litigation/divorce proceedings? All of your screen names and passwords are discoverable and if she has a good lawyer they will find out everywhere you post. Assuming they won’t find this shit is also a bad litigation plan.

[/quote]
You seem like a CSI:New York kinda guy. am i right?[/quote]

No, I’m a lawyer who routinely fucks people in depositions with the bullshit they post on social media. Do whatever the fuck you want, I’m not going to stop you.

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[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I’ll also add that most courts don’t view revenge plots favorably under “best interest of the child” standards during custody disputes. [/quote]

Given it’s HIS home computer and his wife, I think there could be a huge argument that the expectation to privacy does not exist. It’s like working on your company computer. Anything you do on that computer is subject to company monitoring.[/quote]

Its not about the “expectation of privacy.” This isn’t a criminal case. The quickest way to lose access to your kids in a divorce case is to focus on spousal revenge as opposed to what’s in the best interest of the kids.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

At worst you’re going to see a web of deceit and bullshit much deeper than you imagined.[/quote]

Yup, but to actually have seen that is VERY educational. [/quote]

maybe, but shit its the internet age, its not like theres any shortage of stories of horrible deceit by women out there.

May as well save himself the grief, he already knows shes getting double dicked, unless theres legal reasons on the table just tell the ho to pack her shit and then delete her number.[/quote]
theres kids, house involved. i need leverage besides the revenge[/quote]

If that’s the case get a god damned lawyer. That leverage may not be worth anything if you got it illegally.

Damn it, Orion beat me again! [/quote]
The leverage might not be worth anything legally is one thing, but I dont ever plan on producing that as actual evidence. This is a town that we are all settled into, and everyone knows everyone. [/quote]

Announcing on a public forum that you are going to cheat in discovery is a a bad litigation plan. You also realize that everything you are posting on here is also discoverable in litigation/divorce proceedings? All of your screen names and passwords are discoverable and if she has a good lawyer they will find out everywhere you post. Assuming they won’t find this shit is also a bad litigation plan.

[/quote]
You seem like a CSI:New York kinda guy. am i right?[/quote]

No, I’m a lawyer who routinely fucks people in depositions with the bullshit they post on social media. Do whatever the fuck you want, I’m not going to stop you.

[/quote]

I nominate this for post of the year.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]randomonymous wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:

At worst you’re going to see a web of deceit and bullshit much deeper than you imagined.[/quote]

Yup, but to actually have seen that is VERY educational. [/quote]

maybe, but shit its the internet age, its not like theres any shortage of stories of horrible deceit by women out there.

May as well save himself the grief, he already knows shes getting double dicked, unless theres legal reasons on the table just tell the ho to pack her shit and then delete her number.[/quote]
theres kids, house involved. i need leverage besides the revenge[/quote]

If that’s the case get a god damned lawyer. That leverage may not be worth anything if you got it illegally.

Damn it, Orion beat me again! [/quote]
The leverage might not be worth anything legally is one thing, but I dont ever plan on producing that as actual evidence. This is a town that we are all settled into, and everyone knows everyone. [/quote]

Announcing on a public forum that you are going to cheat in discovery is a a bad litigation plan. You also realize that everything you are posting on here is also discoverable in litigation/divorce proceedings? All of your screen names and passwords are discoverable and if she has a good lawyer they will find out everywhere you post. Assuming they won’t find this shit is also a bad litigation plan.

[/quote]
You seem like a CSI:New York kinda guy. am i right?[/quote]

No, I’m a lawyer who routinely fucks people in depositions with the bullshit they post on social media. Do whatever the fuck you want, I’m not going to stop you.

[/quote]

I nominate this for post of the year.
[/quote]

That is pretty god damn funny.

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Unless she is on drugs, abusive or in some other way unfit she will get custody of those kids. You need to accept this and move on.

The best thing you can do is show you are an outstanding father and that will get you joint custody. I put it to you that pulling keylogger stunts is not likely to paint you as a great role model for your kids and hurt your chances.

Yes, she’ll get the house. Yes, you’ll pay for her to bring up those kids. That’s how things work. Next time, find a girl you know has outstanding values and holds family and loyalty in high regard. Sorry you had to learn that lesson in a very harsh manner but take the hit and move on.

If you need revenge, the best thing you can do is treat this like she is doing you a favour, give her only greetings out of courtesy when getting your kids and be as emotionless and short as possible at all other times. That will get to her in a far deeper and more sinister way than anything you have planned. Put this energy into your kids and finding someone new, not this bullshit. It ain’t worth it.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I’ll also add that most courts don’t view revenge plots favorably under “best interest of the child” standards during custody disputes. [/quote]

Given it’s HIS home computer and his wife, I think there could be a huge argument that the expectation to privacy does not exist. It’s like working on your company computer. Anything you do on that computer is subject to company monitoring.[/quote]

Its not about the “expectation of privacy.” This isn’t a criminal case. The quickest way to lose access to your kids in a divorce case is to focus on spousal revenge as opposed to what’s in the best interest of the kids.
[/quote]

It doesn’t sound to me like he’s focussing on revenge. It sounds to me like he’s trying to collect info so if she tries to screw him (again), he will have leverage. “Look, dear, I need to get split custody of the kids or I’m I’m going to share these emails I found on my computer with your parents”.

And so what if those emails become evidentiary, or whatever you called it? His computer, her emails, I don’t see the problem. He doesn’t have to be stupid enough to tell her in an email or a letter or a recorded conversation that he’s going to tell on her if she doesn’t play fair.

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[quote]tsantos wrote:
Unless she is on drugs, abusive or in some other way unfit she will get custody of those kids. You need to accept this and move on.

The best thing you can do is show you are an outstanding father and that will get you joint custody. I put it to you that pulling keylogger stunts is not likely to paint you as a great role model for your kids and hurt your chances.

Yes, she’ll get the house. Yes, you’ll pay for her to bring up those kids. That’s how things work. Next time, find a girl you know has outstanding values and holds family and loyalty in high regard. Sorry you had to learn that lesson in a very harsh manner but take the hit and move on.

If you need revenge, the best thing you can do is treat this like she is doing you a favour, give her only greetings out of courtesy when getting your kids and be as emotionless and short as possible at all other times. That will get to her in a far deeper and more sinister way than anything you have planned. Put this energy into your kids and finding someone new, not this bullshit. It ain’t worth it.
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This is all pretty much on the money.

Not nearly as fun as extorting her her with info gleaned off the computer though.

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I use one to monitor my stepdaughter’s activities to make sure she’s not smoking pot and stuff

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
A hint to your original screen name on here, perhaps?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m dying to know who this really is. We need Nephorm or Roybot to sniff the identity out for us.[/quote]

Tribunaldude. That is all.[/quote]

LOL at the idea of that guy having a wife and kids. The deepest that guy gets in a relationship is to beat a cheap prostitute on a friday night.[/quote]

Yeah?

But at least he isn’t going to get railroaded by two separate court systems, made to feel like a piece of shit, emasculated AND may be put in prison.

I’d take cheap whores over that any day.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
A hint to your original screen name on here, perhaps?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m dying to know who this really is. We need Nephorm or Roybot to sniff the identity out for us.[/quote]

Tribunaldude. That is all.[/quote]

LOL at the idea of that guy having a wife and kids. The deepest that guy gets in a relationship is to beat a cheap prostitute on a friday night.[/quote]

Yeah?

But at least he isn’t going to get railroaded by two separate court systems, made to feel like a piece of shit, emasculated AND may be put in prison.

I’d take cheap whores over that any day.[/quote]

YEAH.

Not only that, but he doesn’t have to put up with dual incomes or anyone baking him a cake on his birthday! Plus avoiding the yucky free sex, snuggling, and best friend thing. Gynophobia FTW!!!

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
A hint to your original screen name on here, perhaps?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m dying to know who this really is. We need Nephorm or Roybot to sniff the identity out for us.[/quote]

Tribunaldude. That is all.[/quote]

LOL at the idea of that guy having a wife and kids. The deepest that guy gets in a relationship is to beat a cheap prostitute on a friday night.[/quote]

Yeah?

But at least he isn’t going to get railroaded by two separate court systems, made to feel like a piece of shit, emasculated AND may be put in prison.

I’d take cheap whores over that any day.[/quote]

YEAH.

Not only that, but he doesn’t have to put up with dual incomes or anyone baking him a cake on his birthday! Plus avoiding the yucky free sex, snuggling, and best friend thing. Gynophobia FTW!!!

[/quote]

YEAH!!!

But he also does not have to buy bullshit because he does not have to put up with a materialist consumerbot who never BAKES A CAKE EVER!!!

Plus, nobody fears the vajayjay.

Everything surrounding it, maybe…

Finally, snuggling and “best friend” is code for “no blowjobs”.

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I have to say I’ve never had a cake cooked for me and how often do guys get blowjobs after the first year?

I don’t really get the extortion thing. Anyone outside of this, who isn’t emotionally invested, is probably going to look at whatever this woman has done and think: “Ummm okay, not nice but we’re only human”. OP’s woman will probably panic and give in initially but she will confide in a friend and that friend will tell her not to give in to his attempts and they will stick by her.

She will find strength and support in her network, it will die down and be forgotten after a month. OP is left tainted with the “psycho” label, probably costs himself custody of his kids for the stunt AND his woman ends up feeling completely justified in doing what she did because he is a crazy bastard (potentially with a criminal record) who keylogged her and then tried to extort her with the information.

But the wheels are already in motion and I look forward to updates :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]tsantos wrote:
I have to say I’ve never had a cake cooked for me and how often do guys get blowjobs after the first year?

[/quote]

A couple times a week. Not always strictly blowjobs though. Sometimes it involves cake, sometimes not.

Yesterday did.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I have to say I’ve never had a cake cooked for me and how often do guys get blowjobs after the first year?

[/quote]

A couple times a week. Not always strictly blowjobs though. Sometimes it involves cake, sometimes not.

Yesterday did.
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For my birthday my wife baked me a chocolate kahlua cake with chocolate chips and she made it with extra kahlua per my request. She served it still warm so the chocolate chips were still gooey and with vanilla ice-cream and chocolate syrup.

After over 21 years together she’ll still give me a blow job anytime I ask. Provided it’s situationally appropriate (a concept I have a hard time with).

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[quote]tsantos wrote:
I have to say I’ve never had a cake cooked for me and how often do guys get blowjobs after the first year?

I don’t really get the extortion thing. Anyone outside of this, who isn’t emotionally invested, is probably going to look at whatever this woman has done and think: “Ummm okay, not nice but we’re only human”. OP’s woman will probably panic and give in initially but she will confide in a friend and that friend will tell her not to give in to his attempts and they will stick by her.

She will find strength and support in her network, it will die down and be forgotten after a month. OP is left tainted with the “psycho” label, probably costs himself custody of his kids for the stunt AND his woman ends up feeling completely justified in doing what she did because he is a crazy bastard (potentially with a criminal record) who keylogged her and then tried to extort her with the information.

But the wheels are already in motion and I look forward to updates :P[/quote]

I think you re probably right on with your 2nd paragraph but you and some others are getting carried away with this extortion angle. First of all, there’s nothing illegal about tracking the activity on HIS computer. 2nd, he doesn’t have to tell her he downloaded software to track with. All he has to say to her is “I found these emails on my computer”. Nothing more. If she asks how he just has to say “in the history” and that’s it, end of discussion.

Well not quite end of discussion. I’m sure there’s a well defined legal definition of extortion, and I don’t know what it is, but I doubt saying to her “I get the kids every other weekend from Friday afternoon until Monday morning, every other wednesday and this list of holidays. I’m paying you the state mandated child support based on my income and no alimony. Right?”, will fit any legal definition of extortion.