July 2, 1863

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Do NOT think for a minute that F.I.'s thread is about honoring the men from Maine. He is far more interested in stirring up an uncivil discussion about “good guys” and “bad guys” from the 1860s. His disingenuousness is crystal clear; he’s fooling no one who has been here very long.

In other words…he’s a wiener.[/quote]

Please you old fuck, I don’t care about the good guys vs. bad guys thing. I’m neither bothering to argue it nor caring about those that do.

I posted what I posted for the most obvious reason- it often gets overlooked in American history. I care very little what anyone else thinks my intentions were. [/quote]

Is that so?

[edit] Is that so, young fuck?

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Memorial to Arkansas Confederates[/quote]

Aww that’s nice. For the Fourth of July, we have pictures of a monument built for men that tried to destroy America.

That’s patriotic if I ever saw it. [/quote]
[/quote]

This wasn’t a reaction to that. I’d actually forgotten I’d even said that.

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Just some thoughts:

  1. Norman Schwarzkopf made it clear that his inspiration for the “flanking” maneuver he used against the Iraqi’s in “Gulf 1” was the very one used by the 20th Maine.

  2. Jousha Chamberlain was a professor by training.

  3. He won the Medal of Honor for what he did at Gettysburg.

Mufasa

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I thought this thread was about him

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

You said that what…all of yesterday?

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I don’t know if you know this, but I post alot here. I don’t have graphs and charts to keep the fuckers straight.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I don’t know if you know this, but I post alot here. I don’t have graphs and charts to keep the fuckers straight.[/quote]

dude. give up. they will not cease with this neo-confederate fantasy.

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Sooo…How about that Lincoln, eh? You know, starting the war of Northern aggresion and all.

[And so, it begins.]

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
While we celebrate this Glorious Fourth, let us not forget the sacrifices made on this day 147 years ago, when Col. Chamberlain and the 20th Maine saved the flank of the Union Army at Gettysburg.

As the extreme left of the Union line posted on Little Round Top, they were told that they could not retreat, could not fall back, but had to stand their ground and fight. If they didn’t, the entire Union line would be flanked, and defeat in Pennsylvania could have meant a southern victory in the Civil War.

So they fought, fought until they ran of ammunition- and when they ran out of ammunition, they fixed bayonets and charged in one the most under-appreciated but bravest and possibly most insane actions in US history.

And when they charged, and sent the Alabamans running, they charged out of Pennsylvania and into the hallowed realm of myth and legend. Without their actions, it’s likely that the South would have won the Civil War, and America would not exist.

Slainte’ to Chamberlain and those brave Maine men. We haven’t forgotten about the blood you spilled on Little Round Top.[/quote]

States’ rights died and a powerful central government was born on this day. The ‘Union’ was over, in the sense of voluntary union.

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Love that guy. We drink to his name often. Good Pale Ale from Ship-yahd.

I have refrained from ever posting again in this forum, but this hit close to home

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Love that guy. We drink to his name often. Good Pale Ale from Ship-yahd.

I have refrained from ever posting again in this forum, but this hit close to home[/quote]

Why? Your contributions were a good addition. [/quote]

“PWI” can test anybody’s patience and sanity.

Mufasa

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Love that guy. We drink to his name often. Good Pale Ale from Ship-yahd.

I have refrained from ever posting again in this forum, but this hit close to home[/quote]

That’s awesome. I’ve got to try that.

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And who can forgot shermans march to the sea when brave union soldiers burned down civilian infrastructure, houses,mills no matter how little military value. And who could forgot all of the “suprise sex” union soldiers gifted black women with during there stay in the south (sherman discouraged the rape of white women but as far as black women, he didnt really give a shit).

Israel would be proud.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Do NOT think for a minute that F.I.'s thread is about honoring the men from Maine. He is far more interested in stirring up an uncivil discussion about “good guys” and “bad guys” from the 1860s. His disingenuousness is crystal clear; he’s fooling no one who has been here very long.

In other words…he’s a wiener.[/quote]

Please you old fuck, I don’t care about the good guys vs. bad guys thing. I’m neither bothering to argue it nor caring about those that do.

I posted what I posted for the most obvious reason- it often gets overlooked in American history. I care very little what anyone else thinks my intentions were. [/quote]

Is that so?

[edit] Is that so, young fuck?

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Memorial to Arkansas Confederates[/quote]

Aww that’s nice. For the Fourth of July, we have pictures of a monument built for men that tried to destroy America.

That’s patriotic if I ever saw it. [/quote]
[/quote]

This wasn’t a reaction to that. I’d actually forgotten I’d even said that.
[/quote]

haha wow, I never even saw that. Dunno how I missed that.

I love and support the state of Arkansas, and I will honor the Arkansans who decided to fight for their home state in the Civil War/Southern Rebellion/War of Northern Aggression/War of Southern Secession whatever the hell you want to call it. They didnt fight for America, they fought for Arkansas, their home.

No offense taken at FightinIrish’s words, I dont mind disagreement nor a differing opinion.

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And side note, the Stand of the 20th Maine was impressive and deserving of accolades for the sheer fucking ballsiness and bravery of Col. J. Chamberlain and his soldiers. I did not live in the 1860’s, I wont play bad guy or good guy. I will respect and honor power and valor when I see it. Those guys were bad asses. Done deal.

Course, had it been a buncha wild hogs charging the 20th Maine instead of the crimson tide, things would have been different.

Just sayin.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
And side note, the Stand of the 20th Maine was impressive and deserving of accolades for the sheer fucking ballsiness and bravery of Col. J. Chamberlain and his soldiers. I did not live in the 1860’s, I wont play bad guy or good guy. I will respect and honor power and valor when I see it. Those guys were bad asses. Done deal.

Course, had it been a buncha wild hogs charging the 20th Maine instead of the crimson tide, things would have been different.

Just sayin. [/quote]

Woooooo pig sooiiiieeeee!

Had to do it. It’s been to long. I’m a native Arkansan.

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
And side note, the Stand of the 20th Maine was impressive and deserving of accolades for the sheer fucking ballsiness and bravery of Col. J. Chamberlain and his soldiers. I did not live in the 1860’s, I wont play bad guy or good guy. I will respect and honor power and valor when I see it. Those guys were bad asses. Done deal.

Course, had it been a buncha wild hogs charging the 20th Maine instead of the crimson tide, things would have been different.

Just sayin. [/quote]

Woooooo pig sooiiiieeeee!

Had to do it. It’s been to long. I’m a native Arkansan.[/quote]

“like a wild band of razorback hogs”
-College Football Hall of Fame Coach Hugo Bezdek