Joe Biden is an F'ing Retard

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
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I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

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Gridlock occurs because we’ve created a powerful central government. It has the power to dominate everything. So, when competing groups are seeking to clobber each other, gridlock results.

“The government that governs least governs best.”

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

[/quote]

People in general don’t know how to have a mutual disagreement anymore. Everything has become politicized and people wear their politics on their sleeves. To disagree with a point of view is to insult.

Don’t buy into what you’re being fed in the media. The ‘far this’ and the ‘far that’ are pitted against each other in dramatic fashion to stir emotion, boost ratings, and sell advertising.

Don’t watch any TV for a year. Shun any newspapers and mags except for financial, local news, and the things that directly affect your paycheck/career/school, etc. I guarantee your (and anyone’s) perspective will change.

I essentially tossed my TV in 1992 and never looked back (except for having to scurry to get any sports…)

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I’ve met a few people where I’m pretty sure that they actually believe the strange and quite untrue things they are saying.

Psychologically it is probably more complex, as a personal guess, where information that is true – whether about one’s own actions or what one has seen or has been told or knows or so forth – actually is in the brain somewhere, but a created fantasy also exists and the person’s memory accesses the created fantasy instead of the real memories.

This is more plausible than it might seem at first glance.\

It appears to me that most people fail to distinguish between direct remembrance – accessing what was stored at the time, or more precisely what was put into long-term storage from short-term memory shortly after the event – and what I call indirect memory.

An example of direct memory would be remembering standing in a particular place, looking down at the dresser, and seeing your keys there. Ah, that’s where they are!

An indirect memory would be remembering having thought some time after that, the keys are on the dresser.

An example of failed indirect memory would be thinking, “I think I left my keys in the car” and then hours after that faultily accessing that and “remembering” that you left the keys in the car, when in fact you did not.

And most people, it seems to me, when remembering this way do NOT make the distinction that it is an indirect recollection. No, to them they remember the keys are in the car and that is that.

So all that takes for a Biden to do as he does is to create fantasies, alternate realities where he and Obama are responsible for success in Iraq or what have you.

And then, when (to his mind) remembering, it’s indirect memory not direct, and it is the thought of the fantasy that is being remembered.

Yes, a non-deluded person wouldn’t do that, but…
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I can attest to having fallen prey to what you are saying about remembering where I put something and great exposition of the phenomena. However, somebody who can do this concerning their own actions related to an international theater of war in which people under their at least indirect charge have died and the geopolitical face of the region has changed need to be looked after lest they inadvertently hurt themselves.

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

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Accomplishing nothing would have been vastly preferable to the myriad of “accomplishments” that have been inflicted on this nation in the name of “progress” for the last especially 50 years.

The fact that you look to them to “get clubbed” or not and the fact that they can actually “club” you demonstrates that leftist state-ism has already secured what it’s after from you.

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[quote]howbad wrote:
Palin IS an idiot. Biden just says crazy shit every once in a while (OK, maybe a little more than that). There’s a huge difference. Biden over Palin as CIC all day.[/quote]

How bad can one’s first post be?

"The vice president also took credit for the troop drawdown.

“You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer,” he said. “You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.”

But the drawdown was negotiated in the Status of Forces Agreement before the Obama administration took office.

“The reduction in U.S. forces that is under way right now is in fact important and it’s largely the continuation of the policy that President Bush had set in place when he negotiated the drawdown schedule with Prime Minister Maliki at the end of 2008,” Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution told Fox News."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/11/republicans-object-biden-taking-credit-success-iraq/?test=latestnews

I’m still shocked that people voted for these shit eaters. America, where is your soul?

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One year into the presidency…

Obviously, Obama deserves NO credit for Iraq, just as Bush deserves NO fault for the economy/debt… let’s keep our narratives straight!!!

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

[/quote]

People in general don’t know how to have a mutual disagreement anymore. Everything has become politicized and people wear their politics on their sleeves. To disagree with a point of view is to insult.

Don’t buy into what you’re being fed in the media. The ‘far this’ and the ‘far that’ are pitted against each other in dramatic fashion to stir emotion, boost ratings, and sell advertising.

Don’t watch any TV for a year. Shun any newspapers and mags except for financial, local news, and the things that directly affect your paycheck/career/school, etc. I guarantee your (and anyone’s) perspective will change.

I essentially tossed my TV in 1992 and never looked back (except for having to scurry to get any sports…)[/quote]

Every time the cable bill goes up I wish I could just ditch it all. I even have a pay-as-you go cell because I refuse to get sucked into paying bigger and bigger phone bills. I’m kind of sick of committing to anything that sucks up more and more of my hard-earned money.

You’re absolutely right about a polarized media that exists to stir people up and make a lot of money for themselves. Trouble is a gullible public falls right into it and keeps it going. At work, people have been judging their co-workers based solely on the politics. And while many political figures are as extremist they appear (at least when attempting to curry favor with their radical fringes during election time), even the one’s who aren’t are getting turned into mindless 2-D cartoons, based often on their alleged views on a few hot-button issues. I wish we could go back to keeping our political views to ourselves. And it’s not like I haven’t popped off from time to time…

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

[/quote]
Accomplishing nothing would have been vastly preferable to the myriad of “accomplishments” that have been inflicted on this nation in the name of “progress” for the last especially 50 years.

The fact that you look to them to “get clubbed” or not and the fact that they can actually “club” you demonstrates that leftist state-ism has already secured what it’s after from you.[/quote]

Meaning what? I’m VERY interested to learn what you think I was talking about because it’s clear you do not know.

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I pretty much agree with SD about gridlock being favorable. When you have political gridlock neither party can try to pander to their most extreme wings because they have little chance of getting things through.

Until both parties move away from the loudest, and most radical members of their parties, gridlock might be the best we can hope for.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
One year into the presidency…

Obviously, Obama deserves NO credit for Iraq, just as Bush deserves NO fault for the economy/debt… let’s keep our narratives straight!!!

[/quote]

You’re absolutely right! The continuation of Bush’s drawdown in Iraq IS his greatest accomplishment on record!

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[quote]JoeGood wrote:
I pretty much agree with SD about gridlock being favorable. When you have political gridlock neither party can try to pander to their most extreme wings because they have little chance of getting things through.

Until both parties move away from the loudest, and most radical members of their parties, gridlock might be the best we can hope for.[/quote]

Good points, Joe.

Mufasa

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[quote]howbad wrote:
Palin IS an idiot. Biden just says crazy shit every once in a while (OK, maybe a little more than that). There’s a huge difference. Biden over Palin as CIC all day.[/quote]

Tremendous first post. In PWI. On a bodybuilding website.

EDIT - HH beat me to it.

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

[/quote]
Accomplishing nothing would have been vastly preferable to the myriad of “accomplishments” that have been inflicted on this nation in the name of “progress” for the last especially 50 years.

The fact that you look to them to “get clubbed” or not and the fact that they can actually “club” you demonstrates that leftist state-ism has already secured what it’s after from you.[/quote]

Meaning what? I’m VERY interested to learn what you think I was talking about because it’s clear you do not know.
[/quote]

What has ever been roadblocked that you were grieved to not see come to pass?

What major federal program now exists because it wasn’t roadblocked that you believe the country is better off for having had it become law?

Define far right and far left.

Do you believe the division you see at breaktime is caused by anything that happens in DC or is itself the cause of everything that happens in DC?

Forgive me if I misjudged you, but every time I hear somebody complaining about gridlock and the far left and far right it’s some liberal who has fooled themselves into thinking they’re an above it all moderate.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
…abhor the Dem/Repub US vs. THEM crap that has polarized this country. Nero fiddles…[/quote]

Whip out a history book and you just might find that this “crap that has polarized this country” started in the 1780s. It continued in the 1790s. And throughout the 19th century. Then the entire 20th century produced this abhorrent polarization too. In fact, it can easily be proven that politics today is a relatively calm, peaceful enterprise. In the past it was much more vicious.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Polarization especially in politics can be a good thing. Without poles you have no equator.
[/quote]
I disagree. Gridlock accomplishes nothing, at least not for those of us in the middle class. Every time the far right and far left put up road blocks and attack each other we’re the one’s who get clubbed. Not loving it. And, as long as I’ve been alive, I have never seen it this bad. People at work practically come to blows in front of the television at break time and I don’t see it coming to an end.

[/quote]
Accomplishing nothing would have been vastly preferable to the myriad of “accomplishments” that have been inflicted on this nation in the name of “progress” for the last especially 50 years.

The fact that you look to them to “get clubbed” or not and the fact that they can actually “club” you demonstrates that leftist state-ism has already secured what it’s after from you.[/quote]

Meaning what? I’m VERY interested to learn what you think I was talking about because it’s clear you do not know.
[/quote]

What has ever been roadblocked that you were grieved to not see come to pass?

What major federal program now exists because it wasn’t roadblocked that you believe the country is better off for having had it become law?

Define far right and far left.

Do you believe the division you see at breaktime is caused by anything that happens in DC or is itself the cause of everything that happens in DC?

Forgive me if I misjudged you, but every time I hear somebody complaining about gridlock and the far left and far right it’s some liberal who has fooled themselves into thinking they’re an above it all moderate.[/quote]

I’m not one of you, neither am I one of them.

The end.

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[quote]SirenSong61 wrote:
<<< I’m not one of you, neither am I one of them.

The end.[/quote]

Okie dokie.

Who would have ever seen that comin?

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Biden is a fucking windbag.