The length of most apprenticeships is measured in hours (at least up here). So working 40 hours a week it might take you 5, but you could do it in 3 if you were working under the right people. No reason you couldn’t do it “part time” except for the problem of finding someone who only needs a part time helper.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add[/quote]
I will say that your concept of Nursing is wrong. Other than that
Is Fluffer a male job?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add[/quote]
I will say that your concept of Nursing is wrong. Other than that
Is Fluffer a male job? [/quote]
I don’t want to know what a fluffer is.
Why don’t you tell about males being nurses. In my opinion being an LVN would be a bitch. And being an RN is challenging and rewarding.
Philosophy is obviously the manliest major.
OP, I am a head hunter, people’s career choices always fascinate me. The great thing about turbulent economic times (this one might pass, but there will be more) is that you will likely have a couple careers before you settle into a stable direction. I did a number of things on my way to this career that prepared for what I do. This outside experience gives me an edge over the folks that never experienced anything outside of their world.
It’s a journey. You’ll start somewhere, move, learn, move, get fired, earn, get promoted, move, etc., enjoy.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add[/quote]
I will say that your concept of Nursing is wrong. Other than that
Is Fluffer a male job? [/quote]
I don’t want to know what a fluffer is.
Why don’t you tell about males being nurses. In my opinion being an LVN would be a bitch. And being an RN is challenging and rewarding.
[/quote]
Nothing to do with male or female on Nurses. I am a Family Nurse Practitioner and was an ER nurse for 14 years. My point was the LVN being bedside and an RN not being at bedside.
If your daddy wasn’t a bearded lumberjack then you were raised by two moms.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add [/quote]
Cop
Soldier
Construction worker
Biker
Cowboy
Indian
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add [/quote]
Cop
Soldier
Construction worker
TROLL
[/quote]
Fixed
Don’t believe the STEM hype. Many science and math fields have very limited job opportunities.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I will say that SPED teacher is actually one of those jobs where men are really needed. I mean you have a 6’2" 250lb 16 yr old with the mind of a 3 or 4 year old and prone to temper tantrums, you need men willing to work in those environments who are patient and can defuse a situation while controlling it. I know in our district, we have one school that handles the most severe cases of Special Needs and after the last teacher (a male) passed away suddenly, we purposely sought a male replacement because they just seem better equipped to handle those situations. [/quote]
absolutely. and you’ll never need work…there’s always SPED openings.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
Currently in America lots of young people are confused and lost when it comes to finding a job or college major.
this thread is to give men an idea of jobs they would like and jobs they would be bored or uncomfortable in. This thread is not sexist or stereotypical it is to help men be happy in work or school.
Good for Men:
chemist
engineer
science teacher
construction
skilled trade
computer science
business management
accountant
ER nurse
bartender
NOT good for men:
teacher’s assistant
customer service
file clerk
special education teacher
public health educator
hospital admin
LVN (bed side nurse)
counselor
bank teller
server/waiter
again. this is my opinion. feel free to add [/quote]
Cop
Soldier
Construction worker
TROLL
[/quote]
Fixed
[/quote]
Trust me, if I ever decided to turn to the dark side you and all the other clowns calling me a troll wouldn’t know what hit you.
just finished my B.A. in sociology from Berkeley.
[quote]Legalsteel wrote:
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]Legalsteel wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Hard to go wrong with electrician though for those with the aptitude. One of the more flexible trades (join a union or don’t, work lots of hours or don’t, work evenings / weekends or don’t, etc…).[/quote]
Agreed. There are SO many areas of specialty in the electrical trade. You can do light commercial service, technical service, disaster recovery, construction, fire alarm, motor controls, switchgear, tenant build-out, commercial, industrial, critical power, high voltage, signs, instrumentation, high voltage DC, marine/ship yard, offshore, Class 1 Div 1, residential, industrial electronics, battery tech, preventive/predictive maintenance, testing, commissioning, QA/QC, PLC/process automation, structured wiring, HVAC controls, generator sets, power generation, utility distribution, lineman, traction control, etc…
Each one of those classifications can be a career.
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How long does it take to get qualified? Is it a couple of years of apprenticeship with a few more years specialization?
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Most are 5 year apprenticeships.[/quote]
Does that include a specialization period? Because those areas AC posted seem pretty diverse.
[/quote]
Out of the things that I posted, the Linemen and Inside Wireman (that’s what I am) are different apprenticeships. Marine or ship yard you’d probably either work non union or pick up in the military. Everything else would be under Inside Wireman. Of course to be a Fire Alarm Guy (FAG) you must FIRST be a Fire Alarm Guy In Training (FAGIT). And if you go through the Lineman apprenticeship, they WILL tie you up, pick you up with a crane and spray paint your dick orange with marking paint.
Some guys never go through an apprenticeship and get to where they are through on the job training and experience. This is pretty rare, but not unheard of. When I worked offshore as a rig electrician, NO ONE out there had been through an apprenticeship. That was a HUGE advantage for me, because I was way more qualified than they were. Once I got used to a few minor differences in material and methods, I was able to outperform just about everyone out there.
But once you understand AC theory and Ohms Law on a fundamental level, it’s all pretty fucking easy.
[quote]En Sabah Nur wrote:
Is it possible to do the apprenticeship part-time? I’d like something to fall back on in case this programming stuff doesn’t work out and/or just to have another “tool in the toolbox” so to speak.
And I talked to one of my uncle’s about some of the electrician’s he knows, and they make good money, but man can it get dangerous. Some of the stuff he told me he’s seen is nightmare inducing.
But I suppose any trade can be dangerous if you aren’t following proper safety protocols.[/quote]
The Union Apprenticeship has you actually sign a contract in which you become indentured. It is a full committment, not something you can do part time. Not sure about non union apprenticeship.
And it’s VERY dangerous. But there are systems in place to manage it. I know several guys that have been electrocuted or burned very badly. Just last month a third year apprentice got burned over 50% of his body. He’s 22 and will never work again. I’ve been flashed twice and had both of my elbows blow out. But that was over ten years ago. The safety culture has gotten a lot more rigorous lately.
But don’t get it twisted. The reason I get paid more than a regular construction electrician is because I operate, troubleshoot and repair/replace high voltage equipment while it is energized. Last month I had to tie in locomotive cable to the back side of a bolt switch that was energized. I couldn’t even see the holes I was putting the bolts into. I was two inches away from an energized 480v bus and I had to torque it with a non insulated torque wrench to 80 ftlbs. Not a lot of room for error in that situation. I do something hairy like that at least once or twice a month. That’s why they let me sit around on the internet on Saturdays. LOL
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]En Sabah Nur wrote:
Is it possible to do the apprenticeship part-time? I’d like something to fall back on in case this programming stuff doesn’t work out and/or just to have another “tool in the toolbox” so to speak.
And I talked to one of my uncle’s about some of the electrician’s he knows, and they make good money, but man can it get dangerous. Some of the stuff he told me he’s seen is nightmare inducing.
But I suppose any trade can be dangerous if you aren’t following proper safety protocols.[/quote]
But don’t get it twisted. The reason I get paid more than a regular construction electrician is because I operate, troubleshoot and repair/replace high voltage equipment while it is energized. Last month I had to tie in locomotive cable to the back side of a bolt switch that was energized. I couldn’t even see the holes I was putting the bolts into. I was two inches away from an energized 480v bus and I had to torque it with a non insulated torque wrench to 80 ftlbs. Not a lot of room for error in that situation. I do something hairy like that at least once or twice a month. That’s why they let me sit around on the internet on Saturdays. LOL[/quote]
Fuck that AC
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]En Sabah Nur wrote:
Is it possible to do the apprenticeship part-time? I’d like something to fall back on in case this programming stuff doesn’t work out and/or just to have another “tool in the toolbox” so to speak.
And I talked to one of my uncle’s about some of the electrician’s he knows, and they make good money, but man can it get dangerous. Some of the stuff he told me he’s seen is nightmare inducing.
But I suppose any trade can be dangerous if you aren’t following proper safety protocols.[/quote]
But don’t get it twisted. The reason I get paid more than a regular construction electrician is because I operate, troubleshoot and repair/replace high voltage equipment while it is energized. Last month I had to tie in locomotive cable to the back side of a bolt switch that was energized. I couldn’t even see the holes I was putting the bolts into. I was two inches away from an energized 480v bus and I had to torque it with a non insulated torque wrench to 80 ftlbs. Not a lot of room for error in that situation. I do something hairy like that at least once or twice a month. That’s why they let me sit around on the internet on Saturdays. LOL[/quote]
Fuck that AC [/quote]
Yup, you should make more money than most people. I stand in an office for fuck sake. Most dangerous situation for me is carpel tunnel. I have to dodge a fork truck every now and then, but it’s rare.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
just finished my B.A. in sociology from Berkeley.
[/quote]
I hope your local McDonald’s has openings.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
just finished my B.A. in sociology from Berkeley.
[/quote]
I hope your local McDonald’s has openings. [/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]En Sabah Nur wrote:
Is it possible to do the apprenticeship part-time? I’d like something to fall back on in case this programming stuff doesn’t work out and/or just to have another “tool in the toolbox” so to speak.
And I talked to one of my uncle’s about some of the electrician’s he knows, and they make good money, but man can it get dangerous. Some of the stuff he told me he’s seen is nightmare inducing.
But I suppose any trade can be dangerous if you aren’t following proper safety protocols.[/quote]
But don’t get it twisted. The reason I get paid more than a regular construction electrician is because I operate, troubleshoot and repair/replace high voltage equipment while it is energized. Last month I had to tie in locomotive cable to the back side of a bolt switch that was energized. I couldn’t even see the holes I was putting the bolts into. I was two inches away from an energized 480v bus and I had to torque it with a non insulated torque wrench to 80 ftlbs. Not a lot of room for error in that situation. I do something hairy like that at least once or twice a month. That’s why they let me sit around on the internet on Saturdays. LOL[/quote]
Fuck that AC [/quote]
Yup, you should make more money than most people. I stand in an office for fuck sake. Most dangerous situation for me is carpel tunnel. I have to dodge a fork truck every now and then, but it’s rare. [/quote]
Yup. I am very fortunate to be a part of an amazing team. We completely replaced an entire utility transformer earlier this summer in LESS THAN 42 HOURS. That kind of performance is unheard of (that would take months for most contractors). We didn’t even have a spare on hand, we had it shipped from PA, mobilized a rigging company in the middle of the night and had a crane on site in less than 8 hours. Had to fabricate a side panel to accommodate the use of parallel Al conductors instead of Cu. It was pretty impressive. To top it off, we had one of the standby generators fail during the outage… But our SOP is to have a 2.5 MW power module on standby, so we were able to transfer the load between gens in about a minute and a half - no down time for the customer.
I love my job - I show up, kick ass, take names and get paid some serious BANK. It’s dangerous sometimes, but I’m qualified and so are the guys on my team. We are the best of the best in the area and proud of it.