[quote]rainjack wrote:
ou lefties prove my point. Jimmy is a liberal. He can do no wrong. The left is exempt from their own standards.
Had that been a conservative - oh…let’s say a Trent Lott - he would have had to resign as Senate Majority Leader. Don’t think so? You guys probably don’t.
There is a double standard and you guys are proving it. [/quote]
What leftie are you speaking to?
I finally just watched that video and I think his little comment shows how deeply ingrained prejudice is in our culture. I EXPECT shit like that from the mouths of really old white guys, especially in the south. I do find it offensive that he would refer to a grown man as old as Obama as a “black boy” but if I decided to get riled up over this, I would first have to deal with the several other instances of it I have experienced in my own life.
Let’s not forget that when any of these subjects are discussed here, I am simply told that I “see racism everywhere” if I mention any incident of it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
rainjack wrote:
ou lefties prove my point. Jimmy is a liberal. He can do no wrong. The left is exempt from their own standards.
Had that been a conservative - oh…let’s say a Trent Lott - he would have had to resign as Senate Majority Leader. Don’t think so? You guys probably don’t.
There is a double standard and you guys are proving it.
What leftie are you speaking to?
I finally just watched that video and I think his little comment shows how deeply ingrained prejudice is in our culture. I EXPECT shit like that from the mouths of really old white guys, especially in the south. I do find it offensive that he would refer to a grown man as old as Obama as a “black boy” but if I decided to get riled up over this, I would first have to deal with the several other instances of it I have experienced in my own life.
Let’s not forget that when any of these subjects are discussed here, I am simply told that I “see racism everywhere” if I mention any incident of it.
I am not sure what you are expecting. A protest? [/quote]
What was I expecting? Exactly what happened - nothing. It was a liberal who said it. Nothing happens to racist liberals. They get a pass. Senator Byrd, anyone?
It was “lefties” plural, not “lefty”. More than one. And I was speaking to all of them that has excused away an ex-president’s racial slur.
It isn;t excusing it away, It’s not making a big deal about it because he’s not running for or holding an office.
You’re really gonna accuse Democrats of being political? They’re kind of a political party. The GOP does the EXACT same thing. American flag pins anyone?
It’s wrong in both cases, but the case in which the racist has power in the government is bound to get more comments.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
It isn;t excusing it away, It’s not making a big deal about it because he’s not running for or holding an office.
You’re really gonna accuse Democrats of being political? They’re kind of a political party. The GOP does the EXACT same thing. American flag pins anyone?
It’s wrong in both cases, but the case in which the racist has power in the government is bound to get more comments.
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Not accusing any party. I am accusing the liberals of having a double standard.
This is one of those things where you are too young to have lived through enough of this shit to understand.
It’s wrong in both cases, but the case in which the racist has power in the government is bound to get more comments.
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Most of the people who can’t grasp this also can’t grasp the simple concept of racism having something to do with the person who holds the most social power in that circumstance. No one cares because Carter doesn’t mean ANYTHING to most people under the age of 35. To most in that age range, he is just another old guy.
So, again, unless I plan on protesting every instance that something similar has occurred to me, it is flat out ridiculous that someone thinks a protest is going to rise out of an off color comment from someone who fits the profile of the people we have historically heard these same comments from.
In fact, if I had brought up an instance just like this on this forum, I would have been told that he didn’t really mean it so I just see racism everywhere…so why does anyone think a protest would arise out of it unless the person in question was holding a much more powerful position?
That’s not as double standard…unless Carter is running for president…again.
i can see this being something that people would cringe at and all but i really dont think it was racist. first off i think he just sounds really genuine and not the least bit malicious. second, no ones gonna jump on him being called a “kid with a fairytale” as a racist remark because that carries no racist conotation, unless of course you wanna split hairs and say calling a black man a boy is the same as calling him a kid.
he’s being called a kid in order to patronize him and explain that he shouldn’t be taken seriously; this is reinforced by the fact that he describes him as having a fairytale. finally this might sound retarded, but i really partly think carter used boy just because he’s like two thousand years older than obama.
anyways i just think he used boy to further his point of explaining that this guy really broke through a lot of barriers to get to where he is. something about making someone sound lesser than the opposition(like calling him boy rather than man) makes their accomplishment more impressive. but thats just my rant…
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
It isn;t excusing it away, It’s not making a big deal about it because he’s not running for or holding an office.
You’re really gonna accuse Democrats of being political? They’re kind of a political party. The GOP does the EXACT same thing. American flag pins anyone?
It’s wrong in both cases, but the case in which the racist has power in the government is bound to get more comments.
Not accusing any party. I am accusing the liberals of having a double standard.
This is one of those things where you are too young to have lived through enough of this shit to understand. [/quote]
But how is that double standard any different than the Republican one? (IE: Flag pins, the experience issue with Obama and Palin, etc…)
I’m not denying it exists, because it does (though not necessarily to the extent some claim). I’m just saying, it doesn’t seem like either side is particularly better than the other when it comes to hypocrisy and corruption.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
But how is that double standard any different than the Republican one? (IE: Flag pins, the experience issue with Obama and Palin, etc…)[/quote]
Focus, kiddo. I have only been talking about racism/racist remarks. What do the flag pins have to do with racism? What does Obama’s or Palin’s experience have to do with racism?
When it comes to racism, and racist remarks, liberals are free to say and do whatever they want.
And I am not talking about anything BUT racism in this thread. I didn’t pull out the party line either. I say “liberal” - not democrat. If you want to get into the gutter of politics, you will get no argument from me on that subject.
Some think it is okay if the offending party is not running for an office. Pretty convenient way of covering up for the double standard if you ask me. “Yeah, but he didn’t say it when the moon was in its waxing crescent phase, so it’s okay”.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I EXPECT shit like that from the mouths of really old white guys, especially in the south. I do find it offensive that he would refer to a grown man as old as Obama as a “black boy”
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The thing is, I think he was referring to Obama’s childhood and past. I don’t think he was calling a grown man “black boy.” I think his pause is evidence that he didn’t want to say “boy.” But since he IS an old, white male from the south, he didn’t know what else to say.