[quote]orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
reading comprehension.
Try it, use it, love it.
[/quote]
Unless you wern’t saying Jesus(or any other person or book for that matter) is the only way to God then my statement stays.
What a joke!
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Why?
If I found the cure for cancer, Lixy would say it was the stupidest thing he’s ever heard.
lol.
[/quote]
You insensitive clod!
[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
reading comprehension.
Try it, use it, love it.
Unless you wern’t saying Jesus(or any other person or book for that matter) is the only way to God then my statement stays.
What a joke!
[/quote]
Did I, or did I not write explicitly that this was Augustin from Hippo´s argument?
[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.[/quote]
Is there any path to a fictional destination?
[quote]orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
reading comprehension.
Try it, use it, love it.
Unless you wern’t saying Jesus(or any other person or book for that matter) is the only way to God then my statement stays.
What a joke!
Did I, or did I not write explicitly that this was Augustin from Hippo´s argument?
[/quote]
Sorry mate i have idea who augustin or hippo are.
Teletubbies?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
Is there any path to a fictional destination?[/quote]
many ways,
i hear the shortest is a straight line.
[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
reading comprehension.
Try it, use it, love it.
Unless you wern’t saying Jesus(or any other person or book for that matter) is the only way to God then my statement stays.
What a joke!
Did I, or did I not write explicitly that this was Augustin from Hippo´s argument?
Sorry mate i have idea who augustin or hippo are.
Teletubbies?
[/quote]
Augustin was the purple hippo.
Famous for his theological arguments that were way beyond the understanding of his core audience, 1-2 year olds.
However, he had a tele on his belly, which was his saving grace.
[quote]orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
orion wrote:
If there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, what do we do with all the people denying that?
Let them join the clergy. Little boys everywhere are being denied their sexual satisfaction.
What a joke!
“Only way to God”?
YEAH RIGHT.
reading comprehension.
Try it, use it, love it.
Unless you wern’t saying Jesus(or any other person or book for that matter) is the only way to God then my statement stays.
What a joke!
Did I, or did I not write explicitly that this was Augustin from Hippo´s argument?
Sorry mate i have idea who augustin or hippo are.
Teletubbies?
Augustin was the purple hippo.
Famous for his theological arguments that were way beyond the understanding of his core audience, 1-2 year olds.
However, he had a tele on his belly, which was his saving grace.
[/quote]
Interestingly though, the only way to ever see the elusive hippo was to admit that augustine was the only person who could reveal the hippo to the public. Even more interesting was that augustine went againt what was common belief at the time as to how the hippo could be seen. Eventually though like a game of chinese whispers augustine went from being the one who could show you the hippo to the hippo in another form. Curious, because the hippo if it took the form of augustine would no longer be the hippo.
I’m 5 btw, and teletubbies is for wimps, us 5 year olds watch ufc.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Jesus was crucified by the Romans but was betrayed by the Jews, yet on the cross he asked his father to forgive them. He did not call for their death.
You realize that all Christians were considered Jews right… calling for a war on Jews would be… well… asking all of his followers to commit suicide immediately. [/quote]
Actually, it would be more accurate to say that Jesus’ request was targeted at 1) the religious authorities who put him there and had persecuted him and 2) the mob that followed him to the hill. Not all Jews.
He wasn’t talking about every racial Jew, he was pointing to the mob present at the hill and the religious authorities. So basically he was asking forgiveness for those who rejected him on a religious level–his ‘competition’ if you will.
This of course bears out the earlier assertion that Jesus’ own position was to let the people who rejected his way alone and not persecute, discriminate, or “judge” them with human opiinion, but to let God do it at the end of times.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
You realize that all Christians were considered Jews right… calling for a war on Jews would be… well… asking all of his followers to commit suicide immediately.
excellent point.
Until, of course, Paul began preaching to Gentiles.[/quote]
Yes but at the point of his crucifixion, Jesus of Nazerath was Jewish, and every single one of his followers considered themselves religious Jews.
And didn’t Paul start preaching a good 2 centuries post Jesus’s death?
[quote]lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.[/quote]
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?[/quote]
Why doesn’t the Bible?
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
Why doesn’t the Bible?[/quote]
Because GOD > Logic
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
Why doesn’t the Bible?[/quote]
This in no way is siding with the fact that any of the holy books are truly the words of god.
Our universe wouldn’t exist without contradictions. Without left there would be no right. Without bad good would be meaningless. The same bacteria kills one person and another it leaves stronger than ever. A healthy person taking painkillers is considered abuse for a sick person its called use.
There is no one clear cut way to define any person event or substance. Life is full of contradiction. In fact it is just one big contradiction. Are we very small or very big? Killing for no reason is considered evil, killing an armed person trying to shoot up a mall makes you a hero. So the morality of killing can not be defined in a way that does not bring about contradiction and neither can anything else. And after all the holy books are trying to impart the “right way to live as God wants”.
Excuse the grammar.
I’m only 5 years old.
Only 5 eh? Hey kid how’s bout you hop in the back of my man and I’ll give you a nice big lollipop for you to suck on?
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
Why doesn’t the Bible?[/quote]
You’re kind of like Abraham Foxman, director of the ADL. When continually presented with rank Islamic antisemitism, he goes on worrying about Mel Gibson and possible pogroms resulting from Mel’s passion flick. Oh well. Most Jews I’ve met are like you. I suppose you derive much psychological utility thinking the way you do. It is much less mentally taxing thinking your way than believing (rightly) that perhaps a billion people derive their knowledge of Jews from a document that reads like Mein Kampf. Speaking of that, I hear it’s a best seller in the Arab world these days:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1388161/Mein-Kampf-for-sale,-in-Arabic.html
Coincidence? According to you, it is!
[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
Why doesn’t the Bible?
This in no way is siding with the fact that any of the holy books are truly the words of god.
Our universe wouldn’t exist without contradictions. Without left there would be no right. Without bad good would be meaningless. The same bacteria kills one person and another it leaves stronger than ever. A healthy person taking painkillers is considered abuse for a sick person its called use.
There is no one clear cut way to define any person event or substance. Life is full of contradiction. In fact it is just one big contradiction. Are we very small or very big? Killing for no reason is considered evil, killing an armed person trying to shoot up a mall makes you a hero. So the morality of killing can not be defined in a way that does not bring about contradiction and neither can anything else. And after all the holy books are trying to impart the “right way to live as God wants”.
Excuse the grammar.
I’m only 5 years old.[/quote]
Contradiction… you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
orion wrote:
That is middle age logic.
The laws of logic have not really changed.
Good one!
Very good one.
Why doesn’t the Qur’an obey the law of noncontradiction?
Why doesn’t the Bible?
This in no way is siding with the fact that any of the holy books are truly the words of god.
Our universe wouldn’t exist without contradictions. Without left there would be no right. Without bad good would be meaningless. The same bacteria kills one person and another it leaves stronger than ever. A healthy person taking painkillers is considered abuse for a sick person its called use.
There is no one clear cut way to define any person event or substance. Life is full of contradiction. In fact it is just one big contradiction. Are we very small or very big? Killing for no reason is considered evil, killing an armed person trying to shoot up a mall makes you a hero. So the morality of killing can not be defined in a way that does not bring about contradiction and neither can anything else. And after all the holy books are trying to impart the “right way to live as God wants”.
Excuse the grammar.
I’m only 5 years old.
Contradiction… you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
[/quote]
Care to elaborate?
Left and right aren’t contradictions.
Saying that one should never kill, and then proceeding to prescribe the death penalty to a number of offenses, that is a contradiction.
Night and day =/= contradiction
Pro-Welfare conservative = Contradiction
Bad and good =/= Contradictions
Defining bad and good in different ways to suit your own needs = contradiction
Get it now?
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Left and right aren’t contradictions.
Saying that one should never kill, and then proceeding to prescribe the death penalty to a number of offenses, that is a contradiction.
Night and day =/= contradiction
Pro-Welfare conservative = Contradiction
Bad and good =/= Contradictions
Defining bad and good in different ways to suit your own needs = contradiction
Get it now?[/quote]
Well i get the point you are trying to make though i don’t agree with it, here’s why. Who defines what is bad and what is good? In the end bad and good are concepts we define, not all cultures would agree on what is bad or good. Ghandi used to say if someone slaps you, turn and give them the other cheek. Personally if someone slaps me for no reason i would take it as open hostility and wouldn’t think twice about retaliating. Some disciplines view even the killing of the smallest organism as a very bad thing(they refuse to listen to reason that states that we kill millions or organisms just by breathing).
The vegetarians believe killing animals is wrong and evil and refuse to see that the very animals they refuse to eat would eat another animal without thinking twice. Saying one should never kill isn’t as simple as that, there are always some “clauses” that would make killing not just a neutral action but a “good” one. Even in western society.
Singling out the “holy books” and saying because they are “the word of God” and thus should be contradiction free doesn’t make a whole lot of sense because contradicting views or circumstances will always exist and not accounting for them would not make sense.
In my opinion tolerance is key and nature is king. So everybody should be accountable for their actions and killing in any name is still killing. Just because you believe you are doing it in the name of God doesn’t make you less accountable because everyone has a right to their beliefs and saying yours are more important than mine is a contradiction. Just because it is for you doesn’t make it so for me. If in my eyes someone is being unjust i have 2 options do something or stay quiet, and if i choose to do something anyone disagreeing with me then has 2 options. It can go on forever(just like this post seems to be)
So ill stop now.