25s suck. I heat my oil up every time and with 25s it doesn’t matter, it takes fucking ages to finish an injection.
I die and am reincarnated 3 times by the time I’m finished injecting 1ml with a 25g.
I will get some pics up this weekend, before monday. By slin pins do you mean like 28g or so, or like the more modern smaller 31g?
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
25s suck. I heat my oil up every time and with 25s it doesn’t matter, it takes fucking ages to finish an injection.
I die and am reincarnated 3 times by the time I’m finished injecting 1ml with a 25g.[/quote]
That’s funny to me bud. Maybe you have weak hands? Who knows?
I’ve never had a problem using 25g to inject stuff. Even up to 350mg/ml. And then insulin syringes, 28 or 29g, are absolutely perfect for the test taper method of PCT.
What did 25g needles ever do to you?
At one point I was injecting 3-3.5ml at a time in my ventro-gluteal site and there’s no way it took more than 30 seconds. I still don’t understand what you’re complaining about.
I recall a post the Bush man made awhile back. It involved injecting test I believe it was with none other than a 28g. I believe he described the experience as if “the oil was coming out of thin air.”
World
I only tried them a couple times in the glutes, maybe it was the reach around that proved to be difficult. All I know is I’ve been sour about 25g since my first go with them.
Maybe I’ll give them another chance in the quads where it’s easier to shoot.
Damn Inner Hulk! You make me wanna use 23s just bcause of your analogy! LOL!
I will most likely have the assistance of my gf with the injections so I hope it wont be that bad for me! Just have to get her up to speed on injection technique. Plus, im a pretty patient guy and like game said, it should keep me from injecting to fast.
I would suggest trying the ventro gluteal site before anything else. It is so perfect in so many ways, I will not even try to describe it.
World
Yeah, I like the good things Im hearing about the ventrogluteal spot for injects! I guess i just feel a little more comfortable with glutes for the first couple of injections.
If you need location of where the ventrogluteal spot is, be sure to check out my thread. It is the picture Cortes edited. Anyway from injecting, I didn’t notice any real difference between the 23 and 25g. Either way, if you hold your syringe with the opposite hand, I don’t think you will have any problems with the injection. It was more difficult for me to inject single handedly because if you’re not careful you can pull the needle out slowly while you are injecting.
[quote]Jazz_Man1898 wrote:
Ok, take a guy who is maybe around 200-215 lbs. Bodyfat percentage in the upper teens in which he holds mostly around his mid section. Not very fat, but not really any defining muscular lines and when clothed, appears to be thin.
He also has a few years of experience in the gym and knows how to train hard! His diet is decent but could be better!
If this person carefully puts a cycle together, trains very hard while on, eats very clean while on, and does correct PCT, wouldnt he be able to transform his body into being more muscular with a less bodyfat percentage?
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You swore this wasn’t you, yet, it seems to describe you pretty well that you put up some stats. But either way…good luck “beating the odds” I’ll be watching your progress.
I’ve seen pictures of you Jazz, and I have a hard, hard time believing you are 15% at your weight and height. I think your cycle looks fine and I am positive there is no way I could talk you out of starting, but let’s at least call things what they are. If you are 212lbs there is no way you are 15%
Thanks Jake. I did see that edited pic on your thread. I will definately reference it when Im gwtting ready to hit the ventrogluteal spot!
Jazz…
how bout those physique pics now? Because everyone else is going to tell you what I am now: LEAN UP!!!
You’ll be much more pleased with yourself if you go in lean opposed to your current condition.
World
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
25s suck. I heat my oil up every time and with 25s it doesn’t matter, it takes fucking ages to finish an injection.
I die and am reincarnated 3 times by the time I’m finished injecting 1ml with a 25g.[/quote]
If you load the syringe and then warm it in a heating pad it will flow just fine. If you just heat the vial before loading, the oil will have cooled significantly by the time you pin.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I only tried them a couple times in the glutes, maybe it was the reach around that proved to be difficult.
Now I heard that you were pretty adept with the old ‘reach around’ 
Bushy[/quote]
Who told you?!? I’ll kill them! Lies!
[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
25s suck. I heat my oil up every time and with 25s it doesn’t matter, it takes fucking ages to finish an injection.
I die and am reincarnated 3 times by the time I’m finished injecting 1ml with a 25g.
If you load the syringe and then warm it in a heating pad it will flow just fine. If you just heat the vial before loading, the oil will have cooled significantly by the time you pin.
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You think so? I always run my amp underneath hot water for 10 or 15 minutes so i figure it would be hot for at least a few minutes.
I’ll try the syringe in a heating pad though.
I personally always use 23GA as that is what I happen to buy boxes of. However currently into my taper just injected .35 ml into my bicep with a slin pin earlier this week and all was well. Just let the loaded syringe sit in a cup of warm tap water for 5 mins prior to injecting.
Thanks guys for the input on the pins! I ordered some 25s so Ill have those along with the 23s I purchaced. Ill most likely try the 25s first and see how I like them and make a decision on wheather or not stick with them…(I made a funny)
Im out of town right now and wont be back till late saturday night, thats why I have to wait on the pics!
Jazz
I’m sorry to belabor this but it really bothers me.
Jazz you have been as ass about how you “aren’t gonna make jake mistakes” and how your a god fearing, vet-obeying golden boy newbie, yet you are very obviously ignoring everyone talking to you about your body fat levels.
If you hadn’t been so quick to point out all Jake’s newbie problems, I wouldn’t point out yours, so don’t bother getting defensive cuz it doesn’t really matter. Just think more before you talk in the future.
Ok guys, tomorrow is the big day! I know I said I would get some pics up this weekend but for some reason, I cant seem to find my digital camera nor the cable to attatch it to the computer! I just got back in town and I left my house in a sham before I left, thats probably why. Anyway, I will get some pics up as soon as I locate it.
So anyway, Im all prepared for the 1st injection. Ive been practicing with a capped syringe to make sure Im injecting the right spot and aspirating correctly. I will go through the newbie threads again to be sure Im doin everything correctly concerning the injections.
Also, I spent a ton today on groceries. I got enough food to last a few weeks, mostly lean meats, eggs, fish, and nuts. I also restocked all my supps which are my Protein, Fish Oil tabs, and Multi Vs.
I am a bit nervous about the the injection. Not scared, but more or less concerned that I do it right. So any last minute words would be great!