Jailing Reporters

[quote]hedo wrote:
The following is a statement from Karl Rove’s lawyer laying out his case.

Of particular note is the last comment regarding the prosecutor. Rove is clearly cooperating with him. If he wasn’t they would have no contact. Clearly, at this point Rove is not a target or subject of investigation.

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Lawyer: Cooper ?Burned? Karl Rove
Rove?s attorney talks to NRO.

The lawyer for top White House adviser Karl Rove says that Time reporter Matthew Cooper “burned” Rove after a conversation between the two men concerning former ambassador Joseph Wilson’s fact-finding mission to Niger and the role Wilson’s wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, played in arranging that trip. Nevertheless, attorney Robert Luskin says Rove long ago gave his permission for all reporters, including Cooper, to tell prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald about their conversations with Rove.

In an interview with National Review Online, Luskin compared the contents of a July 11, 2003, internal Time e-mail written by Cooper with the wording of a story Cooper co-wrote a few days later. “By any definition, he burned Karl Rove,” Luskin said of Cooper. “If you read what Karl said to him and read how Cooper characterizes it in the article, he really spins it in a pretty ugly fashion to make it seem like people in the White House were affirmatively reaching out to reporters to try to get them to them to report negative information about Plame.”

First the e-mail. According to a report in Newsweek, Cooper’s e-mail to Time Washington bureau chief Michael Duffy said, “Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation…” Cooper said that Rove had warned him away from getting “too far out on Wilson,” and then passed on Rove’s statement that neither Vice President Dick Cheney nor CIA Director George Tenet had picked Wilson for the trip; “it was, KR said, wilson’s wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd issues who authorized the trip.” Finally ? all of this is according to the Newsweek report ? Cooper’s e-mail said that “not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. he [Rove] implied strongly that there’s still plenty to implicate iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger…”

A few days after sending the e-mail, Cooper co-wrote an article headlined “A War on Wilson?” that appeared on Time’s website. The story began, “Has the Bush administration declared war on a former ambassador who conducted a fact-finding mission to probe possible Iraqi interest in African uranium? Perhaps.”

The story continued:

Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews (as well as to syndicated columnist Robert Novak) that Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. These officials have suggested that she was involved in her husband’s being dispatched to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam Hussein’s government had sought to purchase large quantities of uranium ore, sometimes referred to as yellow cake, which is used to build nuclear devices.

Plame’s role in Wilson’s assignment was later confirmed by a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation.

Luskin told NRO that the circumstances of Rove’s conversation with Cooper undercut Time’s suggestion of a White House “war on Wilson.” According to Luskin, Cooper originally called Rove ? not the other way around ? and said he was working on a story on welfare reform. After some conversation about that issue, Luskin said, Cooper changed the subject to the weapons of mass destruction issue, and that was when the two had the brief talk that became the subject of so much legal wrangling. According to Luskin, the fact that Rove did not call Cooper; that the original purpose of the call, as Cooper told Rove, was welfare reform; that only after Cooper brought the WMD issue up did Rove discuss Wilson ? all are “indications that this was not a calculated effort by the White House to get this story out.”

“Look at the Cooper e-mail,” Luskin continues. “Karl speaks to him on double super secret background…I don’t think that you can read that e-mail and conclude that what Karl was trying to do was to get Cooper to publish the name of Wilson’s wife.”

Nor, says Luskin, was Rove trying to “out” a covert CIA agent or “smear” her husband. “What Karl was trying to do, in a very short conversation initiated by Cooper on another subject, was to warn Time away from publishing things that were going to be established as false.” Luskin points out that on the evening of July 11, 2003, just hours after the Rove-Cooper conversation, then-CIA Director George Tenet released a statement that undermined some of Wilson’s public assertions about his report. “Karl knew that that [Tenet] statement was in gestation,” says Luskin. “I think a fair reading of the e-mail was that he was trying to warn Cooper off from going out on a limb on [Wilson’s] allegations.”

Luskin also shed light on the waiver that Rove signed releasing Cooper from any confidentiality agreement about the conversation. Luskin says Rove originally signed a waiver in December 2003 or in January 2004 (Luskin did not remember the exact date). The waiver, Luskin continues, was written by the office of special prosecutor Fitzgerald, and Rove signed it without making any changes ? with the understanding that it applied to anyone with whom he had discussed the Wilson/Plame matter. “It was everyone’s expectation that the waiver would be as broad as it could be,” Luskin says.

Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller have expressed concerns that such waivers (top Cheney aide Lewis Libby also signed one) might have been coerced and thus might not have represented Rove’s true feelings. Yet from the end of 2003 or beginning of 2004, until last Wednesday, Luskin says, Rove had no idea that there might be any problem with the waiver.

It was not until that Wednesday, the day Cooper was to appear in court, that that changed. "Cooper’s lawyer called us and said, “Can you confirm that the waiver encompasses Cooper?” Luskin recalls. “I was amazed. He’s a lawyer. It’s not rocket science. [The waiver] says ‘any person.’ It’s that broad. So I said, ‘Look, I understand that you want reassurances. If Fitzgerald would like Karl to provide you with some other assurances, we will.’” Luskin says he got in touch with the prosecutor ? “Rule number one is cooperate with Fitzgerald, and there is no rule number two,” Luskin says ? and asked what to do. According to Luskin, Fitzgerald said to go ahead, and Luskin called Cooper’s lawyer back. “I said that I can reaffirm that the waiver that Karl signed applied to any conversations that Karl and Cooper had,” Luskin says. After that ? which represented no change from the situation that had existed for 18 months ? Cooper made a dramatic public announcement and agreed to testify.

A few other notes: Luskin declined to say how Rove knew that Plame “apparently” (to use Cooper’s word) worked at the CIA. But Luskin told NRO that Rove is not hiding behind the defense that he did not identify Wilson’s wife because he did not specifically use her name. Asked if that argument was too legalistic, Luskin said, “I agree with you. I think it’s a detail.”

Luskin also addressed the question of whether Rove is a “subject” of the investigation. Luskin says Fitzgerald has told Rove he is not a “target” of the investigation, but, according to Luskin, Fitzgerald has also made it clear that virtually anyone whose conduct falls within the scope of the investigation, including Rove, is considered a “subject” of the probe. “‘Target’ is something we all understand, a very alarming term,” Luskin says. On the other hand, Fitzgerald “has indicated to us that he takes a very broad view of what a subject is.”

Finally, Luskin conceded that Rove is legally free to publicly discuss his actions, including his grand-jury testimony. Rove has not spoken publicly, Luskin says, because Fitzgerald specifically asked him not to.

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I think it’s clear that he IS a subject in the investigation, hence, his lawyer in other places parsing the word “target”.

[quote]hedo wrote:
This is from Jason Smith’s political blog. It is certainly more biased then the Newsweek article but the fact remains that Wilson did identidy his wife as a CIA agent well before Rove did. If so this makes the information public.

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The Source of Valerie Plame’s Blown Cover…
Is none other than her husband, Joseph Wilson. While the Left continues to pound the theory that Karl Rove “intentionally outed an undercover operative” as revenge on Wilson’s opposition to the Iraq war, the real story is that Wilson initiated the involvement of his wife in the story.

A story from exactly one year ago showed that a Senate Intelligence Committee panel investigating the story found that Valerie Plame had written a memo recommending Wilson for the trip to Niger, explaining that her husband “has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.”

An article in Newsweek, due out next week, reveals this little tidbit:

The controversy arose when Wilson wrote an op-ed column in The New York Times saying that he had been sent by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate charges that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from the African country of Niger.
Joe Wilson went public first with the fact that the CIA had sent him. Combine that with the Senate investigation that found that his wife, Valerie Plame was the person at the CIA recommending his trip, and you have the source of the leak as to her employment at the CIA - Wilson himself.

Although he didn’t mention her by name in his op-ed, he was playing the odds that his story couldn’t be refuted without mentioning her and thus figured his bogus claims would go unchallenged. What he didn’t count on was that anyone responding to his bogus claims by raising her name and mentioning the memo she authored, wouldn’t be “knowingly identifying an undercover CIA officer” but rather identifying a source of a memo that contradicted his bogus claims… which is not illegal.

This wasn’t about outing an agent for revenge, this was simply about refuting bogus claims by a partisan hack. Wilson brought the CIA into the story, and with the law of unintended consequences, brought his wife in as well since she was the source for the recommendation of his Niger trip.

Wilson asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger. But in addition to finding the memo where she specifically recommended him, the Senate Committee also found that Wilson had made an earlier trip to Niger in 1999 for the CIA, also at his wife’s suggestion.

I suspect the tinfoil-hat crowd will keep clinging to this story like MIchael Moore to the last Krispy Kreme in the box.

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Uhhh…He obviously wasn’t the source. Novak was. And you’d think they’d mention his wife’s bosses sent him, she just recommended him. And it’s not really a “theory”. We know they outed his wife in retaliation for reporting the truth.

100 you have no argument just fringe talking points.

Nobody with an ounce of logic would fire the guy over this so far. It’s an empty story…like the Democrats platform.

Plame got vilified because she played politics. Wilson encouraged and abetted it. That’s what killed Plame’s career. Wilson’s attempt to embarass the administration was met with a big yawn.

If you are explaining you are losing.

Rove’s lawyer ‘outed’ Rove.

Bush himself said that he would fire anyone involved in the Plame situation.

McClellan said he personally spoke to Rove and Rove said he had nothing to do with it.

We can go back to Luskin telling the media that Rove passed the information to Cooper.

These are the facts as we know them.

It remains to be seen if Rove ‘knowingly’ outed a ‘operative’. The odds are he did this knowingly.

The WH press corp is angry with McClellan for good reason. If McClellan would have explain himself then they would not have pressed him so hard. Bush himself commented 9 months after the investigation started.

We will have to wait and see what transpires. Miller knows the missing piece. Rove should tell her to speak to the grand jury to clear things up but I know that will not help Rove and as a result will never happen.

At the very least Rove has shown Americans his complete lack of ethics.

HW $hit canned Rove for the same lack of ethics. Some people never change.

Stick a fork in Rove…he is done!

Again opinion from a biased source. Nothing more. The reporters are mad…oh my. Perhaps now they’ll be real biased instead of just very biased.

No independent sources are calling for a resignation, only Dems. It’s politics pure and simple. If the leadership of the D party focused on what they are going to do, instead of the minuteau of Roves day to day activities, then just maybe they would have a chance.

If that’s all you got Rove will not even be distracted plotting the mid-term defeats of at risk Democrats. After all isn’t that what it’s really all about as far as the Dems are concerned.

Not to say more may come out…but as of now it’s meaningless.

Since nobody has really responded with any points relative to the accusations, what’s next…Attack the poster?

[quote]KevinKovach wrote:
You are a biased fool.

In my honest opinion this phrase describes almost everyone on this forum.[/quote]

:slight_smile:

[quote]hedo wrote:
100 you have no argument just fringe talking points.

Nobody with an ounce of logic would fire the guy over this so far. It’s an empty story…like the Democrats platform.

Plame got vilified because she played politics. Wilson encouraged and abetted it. That’s what killed Plame’s career. Wilson’s attempt to embarass the administration was met with a big yawn. [/quote]

Eh? Fringe? Having an insider in the whitehouse revealing secret information would definitely be grounds for firing. Playing politics over national security would also be pretty good grounds for firing.

How did Plame play politics? Again despite your obvious talking points (note: you’re blaming the victims here) Plame didn’t do anything but get outted by people inside the whitehouse as payback for wilson debunking Bush’s lies in the state of union, lies that partly led us to a war. Yeah that was a real yawn alright.( Funny that hedo would yawn when it was revealed that the president lied to him )

[quote]hedo wrote:
Again opinion from a biased source. Nothing more. The reporters are mad…oh my. Perhaps now they’ll be real biased instead of just very biased.

No independent sources are calling for a resignation, only Dems. It’s politics pure and simple. If the leadership of the D party focused on what they are going to do, instead of the minuteau of Roves day to day activities, then just maybe they would have a chance.

If that’s all you got Rove will not even be distracted plotting the mid-term defeats of at risk Democrats. After all isn’t that what it’s really all about as far as the Dems are concerned.

Not to say more may come out…but as of now it’s meaningless.

Since nobody has really responded with any points relative to the accusations, what’s next…Attack the poster?[/quote]

F the Dems! I never brought them up.

The WH press corp are a bunch of job protecting whores.

The fact is Rove’s lawyer admited that Rove ‘outed’ Plame to Cooper.

McClellan said Rove was not involved in any way shape or form.

Someone is lying. Either Rove’s lawyer is lying or McClellan is lying.

Which is it?

[quote]hedo wrote:
Again opinion from a biased source. Nothing more. The reporters are mad…oh my. Perhaps now they’ll be real biased instead of just very biased.

No independent sources are calling for a resignation, only Dems. It’s politics pure and simple. If the leadership of the D party focused on what they are going to do, instead of the minuteau of Roves day to day activities, then just maybe they would have a chance.

If that’s all you got Rove will not even be distracted plotting the mid-term defeats of at risk Democrats. After all isn’t that what it’s really all about as far as the Dems are concerned.

Not to say more may come out…but as of now it’s meaningless.

Since nobody has really responded with any points relative to the accusations, what’s next…Attack the poster?

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Uhggg! What are you talking about? How is outing an agent, lying about it, for revenge meaningless?

your former chair said:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Don’t you think it’s more serious than Watergate, when you think about it?

RNC CHAIRMAN ED GILLESPIE: I think if the allegation is true, to reveal the identity of an undercover CIA operative -- it's abhorrent, and it should be a crime, and it is a crime.

CHRIS MATTHEWS: It'd be worse than Watergate, wouldn't it?

GILLESPIE: It's -- Yeah, I suppose in terms of the real world implications of it. It's not just politics.

was he lying?
Rove, and perhaps others did exactly that, revealed the idenity of wilson’s wife in attempt to get reporters to write untrue things about a person who said true things. I don’t get how that doesn’t bother you?

[quote]vroom wrote:
I am not calling for another conviction of Clinton. I am only using that as an example to refute your statement on Clintons national defense record.

Perhaps you should refresh my memory. What was my statement concerning Clinton’s national defense record?

What the hell are you smoking? Sign up for that remedial reading class immediately.[/quote]

In one of your long rambling posts you started with a Clinton comparison and went on to a Bush is a bad on national defense statement.

If you didn’t mean to tie Clinton into the national defense statement, that is cool.

Now excuse me, I am out of HOT-ROX so I have to go smoke some crack.

100

See above. No facts to argue. Attack the poster.

Palme authorized the trip, as an analyst, despite knowing Cheyney would not approve of a political appointee making the trip if he wanted an accurate assesment of the situation.

As much it is amusing to keep pointing this out, you need to come up with something here to stop the boredom

Bush lied? Come on isn’t that your reason for everything.

Marcuse would be proud of you…you have become what he always preached would become of the Left, and was his feverent hope.

[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
hedo wrote:
Again opinion from a biased source. Nothing more. The reporters are mad…oh my. Perhaps now they’ll be real biased instead of just very biased.

No independent sources are calling for a resignation, only Dems. It’s politics pure and simple. If the leadership of the D party focused on what they are going to do, instead of the minuteau of Roves day to day activities, then just maybe they would have a chance.

If that’s all you got Rove will not even be distracted plotting the mid-term defeats of at risk Democrats. After all isn’t that what it’s really all about as far as the Dems are concerned.

Not to say more may come out…but as of now it’s meaningless.

Since nobody has really responded with any points relative to the accusations, what’s next…Attack the poster?

F the Dems! I never brought them up.

The WH press corp are a bunch of job protecting whores.

The fact is Rove’s lawyer admited that Rove ‘outed’ Plame to Cooper.

McClellan said Rove was not involved in any way shape or form.

Someone is lying. Either Rove’s lawyer is lying or McClellan is lying.

Which is it?

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Niether.

Read the article I referenced or post your own. Cooper tried was not succesful. Rove’s lawyer explains it pretty clearly.

I brought the Dems up. Who else is calling for the resignation that is a public figure?

Op/Ed article from the NY Post’s John Podhoretz.

SCANDAL IMPLOSION

July 12, 2005 – I WROTE a column on Oct. 10, 2003, about the strange case of Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame.
Wilson was the former ambassador sent by the CIA to investigate whether Saddam Hussein had sought to purchase uranium in Africa; Plame, his CIA agent wife.

In that column, I offered my speculation of what an administration official might have said to a journalist to explain just how Wilson ? a Clinton administration official ? got the assignment in the first place: "Administration official: ‘We didn’t send him there. Cheney’s office asked CIA to get more information. CIA picked Wilson . . . Look, I hear his wife’s in the CIA. He’s got nothing to do. She wanted to throw him a bone.’ "

Hate to say I told you so, but . . .

According to this week’s Newsweek, Karl Rove said something very similar indeed to Time magazine’s Matthew Cooper:

In the Cooper e-mails just surrendered by Time to the prosecutor looking into the Plame case, "Cooper wrote that Rove offered him a ‘big warning’ not to ‘get too far out on Wilson.’ Rove told Cooper that Wilson’s trip had not been authorized by . . . CIA Director George Tenet . . . or Vice President Dick Cheney. Rather, ‘it was, [Rove] said, Wilson’s wife, who apparently works at the agency on WMD [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip.’ "

There’s no mistaking the purpose of this conversation between Cooper and Rove. It wasn’t intended to discredit, defame or injure Wilson’s wife. It was intended to throw cold water on the import, seriousness and supposedly high level of Wilson’s findings.

While some may differ on the fairness of discrediting Joseph Wilson, it sure isn’t any kind of crime.

Rove was suggesting to Cooper that that folks lower down in the CIA than its own director commandeered the process so that the husband of one of their own could get the gig. And the husband in question then went and misrepresented his findings to various journalists (The Washington Post’s Walter Pincus and The New York Times’s Nicholas Kristof) and then in his own now-famous Times op-ed.

This Rove-Cooper conversation discredits Wilson, not Plame. In fact, nothing we know so far was done either with the purpose of exposing or even the knowledge that these remarks would be exposing an undercover CIA operative.

But Plame’s undercover status at the time was and is a little questionable in any case. How undercover could she have been when her name was published at the time as part of Joseph Wilson’s own biography online (see Cpsag.com is for sale | HugeDomains)?

So if the offense wasn’t against Plame, what of the offense against Wilson? There was no offense. As many of Joe Wilson’s own hottest defenders would no doubt argue in relation to President Bush, exposing a liar is not only not a crime, it’s a public service.

And Wilson lied. Repeatedly.

First off, Wilson long denied he was recommended for the job by his wife: “Valerie had nothing to do with the matter,” he writes in his book. “She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip.”

But the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence actually found the memo in which Valerie Plame recommended her husband for the job.

There were other lies as well. Wilson’s own report was far from definitive in any way on the question of whether Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger ? thus giving the lie to his later bald claim that he came back insisting there was no link.

“The report on the former ambassador’s [Wilson’s] trip to Niger, disseminated in March 2002,” said the Senate Select Committee, “did not change any analysts’ assessments of the Iraq-Niger uranium deal. For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal, but the State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) analysts believed that the report supported their assessment that Niger was unlikely to be willing or able to sell uranium to Iraq.”

Thus, Rove was telling Cooper the truth. According to one of Cooper’s e-mails, “not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. He [Rove] implied strongly there’s still plenty to implicate Iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger . . .”

A few days later, for reasons that remain unexplained, the United States said it could no longer stand by the claim in the 2003 State of the Union that Saddam was seeking uranium in Africa.

But that retraction of Bush’s words remains hotly controversial. As a 2004 British inquiry chaired by Lord Butler put it: “We conclude that, on the basis of the intelligence assessments at the time, covering both Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the statements on Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Africa in the Government’s dossier, and by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, were well-founded.”

What isn’t controversial is this: Karl Rove didn’t “out” Valerie Plame as a CIA agent to intimidate Joe Wilson. He was dismissing Joe Wilson as a low-level has-been hack to whom nobody should pay attention. He was right then, and if he said it today, he’d still be right.

And if Valerie Plame wants to live a quiet spy life, she should stop having her picture taken by society photographers and stop getting stories written about her on the front page of the Times.

[quote]hedo wrote:
Marmadogg wrote:
hedo wrote:
Again opinion from a biased source. Nothing more. The reporters are mad…oh my. Perhaps now they’ll be real biased instead of just very biased.

No independent sources are calling for a resignation, only Dems. It’s politics pure and simple. If the leadership of the D party focused on what they are going to do, instead of the minuteau of Roves day to day activities, then just maybe they would have a chance.

If that’s all you got Rove will not even be distracted plotting the mid-term defeats of at risk Democrats. After all isn’t that what it’s really all about as far as the Dems are concerned.

Not to say more may come out…but as of now it’s meaningless.

Since nobody has really responded with any points relative to the accusations, what’s next…Attack the poster?

F the Dems! I never brought them up.

The WH press corp are a bunch of job protecting whores.

The fact is Rove’s lawyer admited that Rove ‘outed’ Plame to Cooper.

McClellan said Rove was not involved in any way shape or form.

Someone is lying. Either Rove’s lawyer is lying or McClellan is lying.

Which is it?

Niether.

Read the article I referenced or post your own. Cooper tried was not succesful. Rove’s lawyer explains it pretty clearly.

I brought the Dems up. Who else is calling for the resignation that is a public figure?[/quote]

You are inherently intellectually dishonest regarding Plame’s ‘outing’.

Your article is not relevant to the specific facts that are known to be true.

Knowingly aside.

Rove’s lawyer has implicated Rove and at the very least what Rove did was unethical not to mention Rove is wrong as the Niger documents have been proven false by the CIA.

Wilson was correct and Rove is unethical.

Bottom line: Either Rove’s lawyer is lying or McClellan is lying.

Anyone that says otherwise is too blatanly partisan to be trusted.

F the Dems and the MSM.

Both Rove’s lawyer and McClellan have gone on record and one of them is wrong. If they are both right then Rove lied to McClellan.

Logic is great if you care to use it.

Hedo,

I’ve been keeping up on this story from many angles.

Thanks for that new article.

This just doesn’t seem to be very interesting.

I do love watching the hyenas (democrats) swarm around. I LOVE watching john “Jesus, how did I lose?” kerry making comments.

My prediction: Nothing is going to happen.

I have a little lesson for my democratic friends: When I was eight, I learned that trying to make others look bad doesn’t make you look good. You guys haven’t given people any reason to vote for you.

Note: This isn’t going to help. In fact, you’re going to look even worse.

Zap, I agree with you. I watched those smelly little dem reporters heckling the other day. Grandstanding little worms.

Damn, I wish I was up there.

There would be a sarcastic smile on my face. I would ask them personal questions. I would call them by name.

Damn that would be a riot.

Or, “you have a maxiumum of ten times to ask me the same question. Break the rules, and the press conference is over.”

I guarantee they would test it one time.

JeffR

[quote]hedo wrote:
Op/Ed article from the NY Post’s John Podhoretz[/quote]

Using Podhoretz’s article to back your assertions it like the Dems using an article written by Alterman or Krugman to back their assertions.

It is meaningless.

You should have picked someone that is a respected journalist outside of the right wingnuttery.

Next…

[quote]hedo wrote:
I brought the Dems up. Who else is calling for the resignation that is a public figure?[/quote]

I never mentioned resignation.

Rove is toast as a result of Fitzgerald.

At the very least Rove is a liability now.

H.W. knew Rove and sent him packing.

I don’t know what to tell you.

You are the one that has to look yourself in the mirror.

Dishonesty is dishonesty.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
Hedo,

I’ve been keeping up on this story from many angles.

Thanks for that new article.

This just doesn’t seem to be very interesting.

I do love watching the hyenas (democrats) swarm around. I LOVE watching john “Jesus, how did I lose?” kerry making comments.

My prediction: Nothing is going to happen.

I have a little lesson for my democratic friends: When I was eight, I learned that trying to make others look bad doesn’t make you look good. You guys haven’t given people any reason to vote for you.

Note: This isn’t going to help. In fact, you’re going to look even worse.

Zap, I agree with you. I watched those smelly little dem reporters heckling the other day. Grandstanding little worms.

Damn, I wish I was up there.

There would be a sarcastic smile on my face. I would ask them personal questions. I would call them by name.

Damn that would be a riot.

Or, “you have a maxiumum of ten times to ask me the same question. Break the rules, and the press conference is over.”

I guarantee they would test it one time.

JeffR[/quote]

Jeff:

I think you are going to have to take it easy on our democratic “friends.” They are coming off a string of defeats that can only be described as cataclysmic!

They want Rove to be guilty so badly that they can taste it. Do what I am doing, sit back and enjoy the show!

[quote]JeffR wrote:
Zap, I agree with you. I watched those smelly little dem reporters heckling the other day. Grandstanding little worms.

Damn, I wish I was up there.

There would be a sarcastic smile on my face. I would ask them personal questions. I would call them by name.

Damn that would be a riot.

Or, “you have a maxiumum of ten times to ask me the same question. Break the rules, and the press conference is over.”

I guarantee they would test it one time.

JeffR[/quote]

You are without a doubt the most ignorant person that posts in the forum (with the exception of the conspiracy theorist).

Everyone in the executive branch serves at the discretion of the American people. I pay McClellan’s salary.

That beotch better be polite and answer questions. That is his job.

Stephanopolis (sp?) pissed off the press corp and they ate him alive.

That is a no win situation.