Hey pookie,
That was a cute little cartoon!!!
Thanks for the laugh.
I was thinking about making a cartoon about inferiority laden Canadians trying to throw rocks into a contest that they obviously don’t understand.
However, Rush Limbaugh told me not to.
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
knewsom wrote:
SQUAWK WHISTLE TERRORISTS ARE EVIL! TERRORISTS HATE FREEDOM! SQUAWK CANADA WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT US! WHISTLE SQUAWK
For fuck’s sake dude, just buy a fuckin’ parrot and save yourself the goddamn time.
I think it might be a good idea for YOU to be careful when castigating guys who parrot talking points. The whole glass house thing.
For example:
SQUAWK WHISTLE halliburton SQUAWK**WHISTLE Cheney SQUAWK**WHISTLEWMD*
Other key words: dumb, stolen election, my rights, police action, etc…
You know the drill.
JeffR[/quote]
Find me a post where I’ve said ANYTHING WHATSOEVER about Haliburton, Cheney or Police action, and I’ll eat my fucking hat.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
pookie wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
(1) We were correct in going into Iraq – Saadam trained and supported terrorists and it was only a matter of time before something really bad happened because of this.
That’s crap. It’s Afghanistan you invaded because of terrorist camps, remember? For Iraq it was the bullshit about WMDs even while the U.N. inspectors kept reporting that their was nothing to be found.
You’re so well informed about the issues, you can’t even spell Saddam correctly.
At 1AM or 2 AM I am glad if I can spell “a.” lol
Anyway, once again if Bush was wrong on WMD’s tell that to Bill Clinton and his ilk, because he believed that also.
However, we cannot simply pull out of Iraq now – it would look like a defeat for the U.S. and that would not be good in further deterance of terrorism.
Agreed. Now that you’ve turn the place into a shithole of chaos and violence, you should stay and fix your mess. I really hope that’s what happens, but I think it’s more likely that the troops will be pulled out in the coming years and the region will be left more unstable than it was before you invaded. It will reinforce to the terrorists the image of the US as a “paper tiger” while having alienated a lot of worldwide support you had after 9/11. Yup, Bush really did a bang-up job here.
Easy to talk from Canada when you have us below you to protect you guys. Where would your country be if it weren’t for us? Don’t you realize that you would be a target also?
Terrorists don’t like freedom and free peoples. Evil doesn’t need a reason to kill – they just do.
SQUAWK WHISTLE TERRORISTS ARE EVIL! TERRORISTS HATE FREEDOM! SQUAWK CANADA WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT US! WHISTLE SQUAWK
For fuck’s sake dude, just buy a fuckin’ parrot and save yourself the goddamn time.[/quote]
Great intelligent post as usual. Now do you have something of substance to show that I am mistaken?
Of course not…grow up…you sound like a 12 y/o.
[quote]pookie wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
At 1AM or 2 AM I am glad if I can spell “a.” lol
Yeah, laugh it off. The rest of it is spelled correctly, isn’t it? It’s almost as if you’d done very little reading about the whole situation and were simply content with parroting the sound bites Fox News gives you to pass off as “thinking deep and hard about the issues.” [/quote]
It was a careless spelling error. What you make none? I cannot believe an adult would use this to conclude all that you do from that. Good debating tactic, but once again, wrong. [quote]
I’d buy it for Ahmadinejad or even Nasrallah, but Saddam? I don’t think so.
Easy to talk from Canada when you have us below you to protect you guys. Where would your country be if it weren’t for us? Don’t you realize that you would be a target also?
If you weren’t there, we’d still be right here. We’d probably have a larger army and that’s it.
If we’re a target, it’s because some might see us as complicit with some of your foreign policies. Good thing we had enough sense to stay out of Iraq.[/quote]
Yes, without us you would have to have a larger army – and use it! [quote]
Terrorists don’t like freedom and free peoples. Evil doesn’t need a reason to kill – they just do.
I’m flabbergasted that an adult can spout such ludicrous drivel and be entirely serious.
You really don’t seem to understand evil in our time, Pookie. What, do you want us to sit down with the nice Isalmonazis and talk it out and make “nice nice” to them?
Tell the families of the 9/11 dead that such comments are ludicrous drivel. I think they would think differently and you would also if it personally affected you.
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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
knewsom wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
pookie wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
(1) We were correct in going into Iraq – Saadam trained and supported terrorists and it was only a matter of time before something really bad happened because of this.
That’s crap. It’s Afghanistan you invaded because of terrorist camps, remember? For Iraq it was the bullshit about WMDs even while the U.N. inspectors kept reporting that their was nothing to be found.
You’re so well informed about the issues, you can’t even spell Saddam correctly.
At 1AM or 2 AM I am glad if I can spell “a.” lol
Anyway, once again if Bush was wrong on WMD’s tell that to Bill Clinton and his ilk, because he believed that also.
However, we cannot simply pull out of Iraq now – it would look like a defeat for the U.S. and that would not be good in further deterance of terrorism.
Agreed. Now that you’ve turn the place into a shithole of chaos and violence, you should stay and fix your mess. I really hope that’s what happens, but I think it’s more likely that the troops will be pulled out in the coming years and the region will be left more unstable than it was before you invaded. It will reinforce to the terrorists the image of the US as a “paper tiger” while having alienated a lot of worldwide support you had after 9/11. Yup, Bush really did a bang-up job here.
Easy to talk from Canada when you have us below you to protect you guys. Where would your country be if it weren’t for us? Don’t you realize that you would be a target also?
Terrorists don’t like freedom and free peoples. Evil doesn’t need a reason to kill – they just do.
SQUAWK WHISTLE TERRORISTS ARE EVIL! TERRORISTS HATE FREEDOM! SQUAWK CANADA WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT US! WHISTLE SQUAWK
For fuck’s sake dude, just buy a fuckin’ parrot and save yourself the goddamn time.
Great intelligent post as usual. Now do you have something of substance to show that I am mistaken?
Of course not…grow up…you sound like a 12 y/o.[/quote]
Ahhh, the sweet irony of this post.
brilliant.
At this point in time, America has two choices.
We can - 1. Be involved in the Iraqi Civil War, and sacrifice more American lives over an extended period of time with a strong possibility of failure (as we are doing now)
Or 2. - Pull out, and let the Iraqis fight their own civil war.
If the people in that country really want a democratically elected state, they will have it and they will fight for it. Not only that, but they will win.
To think that we could install a democratic state against the will of the people who live there is insane, as insane as it was when we tried it in Vietnam with Diem.
Only a third of the country supported the American Revolution- we won anyway.
If these people want that government, then they will have it. If they don’t want it, no amount of US support or firepower will change that, and we will be in another protracted war with a guerilla insurgency that cannont be defeated convetionally- again, it may be like Vietnam with the French, where all kinds of Vietnamese band together just to get the foreigners out, and then split apart as soon as that goal is accomplished.
We have done all that we can do. Things are not going to change in Iraq. It is time to let them decide their fate, as all countries have in the past.
[quote]pookie wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
we become known as the “people who carry a big stick and don’t have the balls to use it”.
There was another thread recommending the documentary “Why We Fight.” It think you should look it up and see all the ways in which you don’t use your big stick.
Your views are not only wrong, but extremely ignorant and regional. If you’re going to comment on world issues, you’d do better to at least be informed about the history, politics and cultures involved in conflicts and tensions throughout the Middle East.
Supporting nuclear annihilation of an entire region of the globe comes off as a reaction similar to a 4 year old who kicks his toys in anger because he can’t have seconds for dessert.
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Just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t make one right and one wrong. Who died and left you king? Are you God here? Opinions are exactly that, those claiming to know everything are usually the ones who don’t have a clue. Ignorance is your own slavery buddy. Just because my opinion is not popular doesn’t exactly make it wrong here. You have not power to judge.
I think we should round up every middle easterner we can and bomb them. You cannot argue that; you may as well tell me that the bench press is the right answer to building chest and not dumbbell presses(all depends on your point of view, no 2 are evere exactly alike). I say kill them all before they kill us. You say do something less violent.
Well, violence is sometimes the only way to ever permanantly solve any fuckin’ thing. And I have no problem nuken’ the entire world if that’s what it comes down too… somebody has to come out alive. I bet the dead in 911 wish they were still alive. Wanna take that bet, that an overwhelming majority of the dead from 911 would nuke every middle easterner in the world right now if they had the chance?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
At this point in time, America has two choices.
We can - 1. Be involved in the Iraqi Civil War, and sacrifice more American lives over an extended period of time with a strong possibility of failure (as we are doing now)
Or 2. - Pull out, and let the Iraqis fight their own civil war.
If the people in that country really want a democratically elected state, they will have it and they will fight for it. Not only that, but they will win.
To think that we could install a democratic state against the will of the people who live there is insane, as insane as it was when we tried it in Vietnam with Diem.
Only a third of the country supported the American Revolution- we won anyway.
If these people want that government, then they will have it. If they don’t want it, no amount of US support or firepower will change that, and we will be in another protracted war with a guerilla insurgency that cannont be defeated convetionally- again, it may be like Vietnam with the French, where all kinds of Vietnamese band together just to get the foreigners out, and then split apart as soon as that goal is accomplished.
We have done all that we can do. Things are not going to change in Iraq. It is time to let them decide their fate, as all countries have in the past.
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I AGREE WITH THIS ENTIRE POST. Here’s someone who “gets it”. It doesn’t even take more than 2 brain cells to understand this… but there are still way to many teammates left that just won’t give up.
Ya know… those conservatives who ride on everything a conservative does, right or wrong. Face is Bush is in the shithouse and he’s taking his clan with him. The sad thing is… the Democrats get to clean this fiasco up. What else is new?
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t make one right and one wrong. Who died and left you king? Are you God here? Opinions are exactly that, those claiming to know everything are usually the ones who don’t have a clue. Ignorance is your own slavery buddy. Just because my opinion is not popular doesn’t exactly make it wrong here. You have not power to judge.
I think we should round up every middle easterner we can and bomb them. [/quote]
Easily one of the most ignorant, horrific posts I’ve read on here.
Every woman and child should die because Go Heavy Fool doesn’t like’em, huh?
Cause murdering indiscrimately really worked for the British in America and Ireland, it worked for the Crusaders, and everyone else who tried it, right?
It is so easy to say all this, because you’ll never see the pictures and never feel the pain…until you look in TIME Magazine and you see the crying 18 year old girl with chemical burns all over her face from the bomb that killed her mother and sister.
Of course, if that was your mother and sister, well, then it’s a crime, right?
You are the fool, my friend. Not only a fool, but an arrogant, idiotic, completely retarded asshole.
Now, on another note, Bush has said that the anger of the citizens of the US will not change the policy of the US in the middle east.
Who the FUCK does this guy represent then?
Didn’t 51% of America elect him? And now, what, 70% of the people think he is destroying things?
The government serves the people, not the other way around. The time has come to REMOVE this man from office.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
Just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t make one right and one wrong. Who died and left you king? Are you God here? Opinions are exactly that, those claiming to know everything are usually the ones who don’t have a clue. Ignorance is your own slavery buddy. Just because my opinion is not popular doesn’t exactly make it wrong here. You have not power to judge.
I think we should round up every middle easterner we can and bomb them.
Easily one of the most ignorant, horrific posts I’ve read on here.
Every woman and child should die because Go Heavy Fool doesn’t like’em, huh?
Cause murdering indiscrimately really worked for the British in America and Ireland, it worked for the Crusaders, and everyone else who tried it, right?
It is so easy to say all this, because you’ll never see the pictures and never feel the pain…until you look in TIME Magazine and you see the crying 18 year old girl with chemical burns all over her face from the bomb that killed her mother and sister.
Of course, if that was your mother and sister, well, then it’s a crime, right?
You are the fool, my friend. Not only a fool, but an arrogant, idiotic, completely retarded asshole.
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Yep I will kill your entire family before I let you kill mine. and to my understanding, that is the mindset of the terrorists… to kill every american. What? Do you somehow think that these women arn’t just breeding a new crop of terrorists? I say end the cycle.
You either end them, or they will end you. You are smart enough to know that we can’t change their society into a democracy… but you have failed to realize that this is the same concept when changing their agenda. Its still going to be to kill Americans. That is the concept.
You view on the war is right on. But you view on safety sucks. this is how we lost 5,000 Americans in the Twin Towers crashes.
Again… I would not want you protecting this nation or my family. I would be dead left in your hands. We are talking about people who breed children to kill themselves by crashing their planes into our buildings. Mercy is for the weak. And you are the weak.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
You are the fool, my friend. Not only a fool, but an arrogant, idiotic, completely retarded asshole.
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I’m sure your intelligence allowed more than insults… or did it?
You have alot to learn. You’re too liberal and it will only get you killed or your loved ones. By the way… retarded is an I.Q. of under 70. I took those tests and scored over 130… guess what that makes me? Not retarded. Now I also find that term offensive, could you elicit a different response next time someone says something you don’t understand or agree with?
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
You are the fool, my friend. Not only a fool, but an arrogant, idiotic, completely retarded asshole.
I’m sure your intelligence allowed more than insults… or did it?
You have alot to learn. You’re too liberal and it will only get you killed or your loved ones. By the way… retarded is an I.Q. of under 70. I took those tests and scored over 130… guess what that makes me? Not retarded. Now I also find that term offensive, could you elicit a different response next time someone says something you don’t understand or agree with?
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Don’t give me garbage about your IQ. If it’s that high, then you ain’t using half of it. When you advocate genocide against an entire people, including women and chilren, well, that makes you an asshole in my book. Genius or not. Sorry boss.
I am the weak one huh? I’m sure Hitler said the same thing once about the men who would not “just follow orders”.
Terrorists are seperate from Middle Easterners. To talk as you do about them is idiotic.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
It is so easy to say all this, because you’ll never see the pictures and never feel the pain…until you look in TIME Magazine and you see the crying 18 year old girl with chemical burns all over her face from the bomb that killed her mother and sister.
Of course, if that was your mother and sister, well, then it’s a crime, right?
[/quote]This is precisely the point. You think those 5,000 Americans burning in those buildings weren’t your brothers and sisters. If it was your mother in that building, you would have a whole new outlook on things.
Whose it gonna be? Your mother and sister or theirs… I think you go with the latter. but you want to claim otherwise. You just don’t have the balls or the brains to do what needs to be done. Your the kinda guy that would get shot first on a hi-jacked plane… I’ll bet you would try reading scripture to this rebel without a cuase driving that plane staright to its death. Good luck with that strategy.
I’ll go with the one we took in WW2 and use the bombs. I have mentioned this before and i will say it again. These bombs will be used again, lets just hope they get into someone’s hands like my own instead of yours, for the sake of the country of course. I like my home, I’d like to see it standing when the turmoil breaks. Please keep yourself away from the political sector.
The one thing I like about Bush is the fact that he isn’t afraid to kill some people… the problem is he kills too many of the wrong ones.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
This is precisely the point. You think those 5,000 Americans burning in those buildings weren’t your brothers and sisters. If it was your mother in that building, you would have a whole new outlook on things.
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So says someone from Florida to someone from New Jersey huh?
You have no idea how many people I know that were there. Watch yourself.
Scripture huh? You are showing your newness if you are saying that I would read scripture to a Muslim.
Sorry bud. That’s not at all what I would do.
Oh, c’mon, where’s that 130 IQ hiding?
If those bombs are used again, that will be the end of the world.
As Einstein said, “I don’t know how they’ll fight WWIII, but I know how they’ll fight WWIV- with sticks and stones”.
I thought you wanted to kill all Muslims? He’s doing that. You should be happy, Mr. 130.
Get your story straight- should we kill all Muslims or not? You’re contradicting yourself.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Terrorists are seperate from Middle Easterners. To talk as you do about them is idiotic.[/quote]
Semantics!
Americans are seperate from republicans… Americans are seperate from democrats… Americans are seperate from Catholics… Americans are seperate from Protestants. Blah blah blah… You think one terrorists knows the difference of each individual in the 5,000 that were killed in the towers? You know the answer is no. Dealing with this mentality should be dealt with the same way it was evoked on us. Lump the souce together of all the hate breeders.
The terrorists killed muslims in the towers.
Middle Easterners are the breeding ground of terrorists… kill em all I say and don’t think twice about it. Every little 5 year old boy goes too… especially before the 5 year old potentially turns into the next Osama.
Hitler right or wrong… doesn’t matter. He accomplished a goal for his people. Cruel? Yes. Welcome to the real world. Its not all fluffy pillows and roses. sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Ugly? Yes. Borderline insanity? Yes. Does it solve anything? Lets see.
What did hitler solve? Easy… he rounded up Germans and made them the superpower he thought they were. Hmmmm… What was world war2? For Germany is was a round up, after being scattered all over Europe from the first world war. Most people think think he killed Jews because he didn’t like them… no no no, he killed Jews because they were in the way. They could have been Hungarians for all he cared, it didn’t matter.
Hitlers first execultions were actually Germans… he killed the crippled an so forth. He and his superior race mentality had an agenda. Thats all that was. The terrorists have the same agenda… to kill whoever is not in the mindset of a terrorists.
Do I see a similiarity here?
Hilter kills crippled Germans to carry out his agenda.
Terrorists kill muslims in the towers to carry out their agenda.
Hilter was an easier target, he ws only one man. There are millions of terrorists… better get to the source of these baby makers before this gets outta hand.
There is no difference in the mindset of Hitler or a terrorists, they will not compromise at all costs to seek an agenda.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I thought you wanted to kill all Muslims? He’s doing that. You should be happy, Mr. 130.
Get your story straight- should we kill all Muslims or not? You’re contradicting yourself.[/quote]
No I was referring to the “wrong ones” as Americans, or our troops.
Story is still straight.
Kill every middle easterner in the world before they kill me… yes, yes yes. That is my story and I’m sticking with it.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t make one right and one wrong.[/quote]
You could say the sky is pink and tell everyone who disagrees with you that they’re wrong and that everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
At one point, opinions become so ridiculously stupid and ignorant that, yes, they are wrong. They are wrong because they fail to take into account the consequences of what they propose. Any idea that assumes that the US operates in a vacuum and that the rest of the world is simply a stages with inanimate props that won’t react to your actions is a dumb, stupid, and yes retarded idea.
It’s hard to argue because it’s so stupid to begin with. How do you explain to someone who’s afraid of getting a headeache that shooting a 12-gauge in his ear is not the best solution?
But let’s try anyway:
The historical argument: Since 1945, not a single nuclear power has used the bomb. Why is that? Why build those humongous arsenal and not use them? Because deterrence is the name of the game. The risk of nuclear escalation is simply to great. Who cares about winning the war if everyone on the planet is dead?
Moral argument: Using nuclear weapons is morally reprehensible. Their sheer destructive power makes massive collateral damage a certainty. You’re whimpering like a baby about the bad terrorists harming your loved ones. Well nuclear weapons kill thousands upon thousands of people when they hit a city.
If you start raining them down in the Middle East, don’t you think one of the other nuclear power wouldn’t understand that they could be next if you decide you don’t like them? Pre-emption is not your excusive right. Maybe China or Russia would bomb Anchorage as a warning. Or LA? New York? Which large city would you like to do without? Or maybe turn the whole south in a glass desert to destroy your silos. Who knows? Wanna find out that your ABM system is complete shit the hard way?
The losing all your allies arguments: Doing something so reprehensible would force even your staunchest allies to distance themselves from you. Do you think you can outdo Hitler and Stalin combined and still pretend to be “A beacon of liberty” or “leader of the free world?” While you might think that an insular US can stand on its own against the world, you can’t. Don’t take my word for it, ask around.
Spare me the bullshit training analogies. For someone who claims a 130 IQ, you’re remarkably imbecilic.
I’m not big on genocides. It’s character flaw to which I’m rather attached. I also support the status quo in regard to this planet’s average radiation levels.
Sadly, violence is often required. It should be as a last resort, and applied forcefully, but in the least amount necessary.
…but you still expect to be able to live in it after? You seem somehow unaware of the effects of nuclear weapons. In fact, you seem pretty unaware of large portion of what we like to call “The Real World.”
Other than the cockroaches, you mean?
I’d take that bet any day. Your kind of stupid is not that common.
[quote]pookie wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
Just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t make one right and one wrong.
You could say the sky is pink and tell everyone who disagrees with you that they’re wrong and that everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
At one point, opinions become so ridiculously stupid and ignorant that, yes, they are wrong. They are wrong because they fail to take into account the consequences of what they propose. Any idea that assumes that the US operates in a vacuum and that the rest of the world is simply a stages with inanimate props that won’t react to your actions is a dumb, stupid, and yes retarded idea.
I think we should round up every middle easterner we can and bomb them. You cannot argue that
It’s hard to argue because it’s so stupid to begin with. How do you explain to someone who’s afraid of getting a headeache that shooting a 12-gauge in his ear is not the best solution?
But let’s try anyway:
The historical argument: Since 1945, not a single nuclear power has used the bomb. Why is that? Why build those humongous arsenal and not use them? Because deterrence is the name of the game. The risk of nuclear escalation is simply to great. Who cares about winning the war if everyone on the planet is dead?
Moral argument: Using nuclear weapons is morally reprehensible. Their sheer destructive power makes massive collateral damage a certainty. You’re whimpering like a baby about the bad terrorists harming your loved ones. Well nuclear weapons kill thousands upon thousands of people when they hit a city.
If you start raining them down in the Middle East, don’t you think one of the other nuclear power wouldn’t understand that they could be next if you decide you don’t like them? Pre-emption is not your excusive right. Maybe China or Russia would bomb Anchorage as a warning. Or LA? New York? Which large city would you like to do without? Or maybe turn the whole south in a glass desert to destroy your silos. Who knows? Wanna find out that your ABM system is complete shit the hard way?
The losing all your allies arguments: Doing something so reprehensible would force even your staunchest allies to distance themselves from you. Do you think you can outdo Hitler and Stalin combined and still pretend to be “A beacon of liberty” or “leader of the free world?” While you might think that an insular US can stand on its own against the world, you can’t. Don’t take my word for it, ask around.
you may as well tell me that the bench press is the right answer to building chest and not dumbbell presses(all depends on your point of view, no 2 are evere exactly alike).
Spare me the bullshit training analogies. For someone who claims a 130 IQ, you’re remarkably imbecilic.
I say kill them all before they kill us. You say do something less violent.
I’m not big on genocides. It’s character flaw to which I’m rather attached. I also support the status quo in regard to this planet’s average radiation levels.
Well, violence is sometimes the only way to ever permanantly solve any fuckin’ thing.
Sadly, violence is often required. It should be as a last resort, and applied forcefully, but in the least amount necessary.
And I have no problem nuken’ the entire world if that’s what it comes down too…
…but you still expect to be able to live in it after? You seem somehow unaware of the effects of nuclear weapons. In fact, you seem pretty unaware of large portion of what we like to call “The Real World.”
somebody has to come out alive.
Other than the cockroaches, you mean?
I bet the dead in 911 wish they were still alive. Wanna take that bet, that an overwhelming majority of the dead from 911 would nuke every middle easterner in the world right now if they had the chance?
I’d take that bet any day. Your kind of stupid is not that common.
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Its called reality. The difference between me an you… I lost 2 friends due to terrorists. You have probably lost nothing other than a cool comeback for a thread post.
One day you will have to live in the real world with the rest of us.
Come back with your same liberal bullshit attitude after your family gets murdered by muslims/terrorists/middle easterners/… or whatever the democratic label society came up with to confuse the layman from epiphany.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Its called reality. The difference between me an you… I lost 2 friends due to terrorists.[/quote]
And your answer is to become a terrorist yourself.