If they used the power of the commerce clause, I think it would hold up honestly. It’s a loose argument, but so are other things based on it.
It’s the catchall power and I don’t think the Supreme Court would touch it.
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Before we go any further, let me clarify that I don’t believe Amendments(or the Constitution) should be applied to the States unless it is an Amendment specifically restricting the States. However, I will not argue based on my, what I believe to be correct, belief.
Well, they actually really just didn’t want to be punished for practicing their religion the way they wanted.
This is a good example of a reason this country needs to break apart. If things are so bad that an individual even loosely associated with a local government can’t pray in public, things need to break up.
I assume you’ve read up on that and still believe this coach praying violates it. I fail to see how his doing so resulted in any relationship between government and religious authority. Maybe he was a preacher or something; I don’t know.
Edit: Read a little on this case. Seems like there’s a much better argument that the State was attempting to restrict religious freedom than that his praying was the state establishing a religion. I don’t believe the Supreme Court should be deciding State issues, but here we’ve been for many years.
False. The majority of course considered point 3 of the Lemon test, but they rightly found it doesn’t apply in this case. Students gather around the school flagpole all over the country to pray before school. Does that violate point 3?
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What about those outside of a pregnant woman?
Exactly. It wasn’t left to the states but made into an amendment. Prior to that, Lincoln made the Emancipation Proclamation. Then of course, you had the Civil War. And if you look at the history of the 13th Amendment, there were some behind the scenes actions in order to get it ratified by the states. Had the issue of slavery been left to the states, slavery might never have ended in some.
Seedtime and harvest
Is that some Soylent Green reference?
I’d say the difference here is that the students do not represent, and are not employed by the government.
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As long as it isn’t officially sanctioned by the school or required by the school, I don’t see the problem.
I am with the Supreme Court on this one and I am not religious at all.
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You know me well enough to know from where that came. Genesis 8:22. Look it up. The New Covenant does not negate this truth, “while the earth remaineth.”
Most pro-lifers are people of faith. The Noahic Covenant is in force for those who rightly divide the word of truth. If a person commits a capital crime, that person must receive capital punishment by the hands of men.
I will acknowledge that many religions don’t believe in this. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t a Bible truth.
I am fine with it as long as it is equally applied to all religions.
I was just commenting on what I remember from past cases. Students can pray or do other religious things. Staff were held to a different standard as a staff member doing so was seen as an endorsement.
But I am okay with it if it follows your standard of it not being sanctioned by the school, and that we don’t favor any particular religion.
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Yep, you have to allow any religion to do their thing and not play favorites. As long as it is allowed by all - it should be fine.
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Capital crime according to the Bible? That would be interesting.
Just read it for yourself. Genesis chapter 9
Seen a rainbow? Covenant is still in force.
I don’t know if I would want all of the acts the Bible considers capital crimes to be capital crimes.
This is because you are not rightly dividing the word of truth. Most all the capital crimes of the Bible that you are concerned about are part of the Mosaic Covenant. That covenant is no longer in force during the Church Age.
Well, the New Covenant could be seen as outlawing capital punishment altogether. And as far as I know, violating the laws of Noah keep you out of the afterlife rather than being capital crimes.
There is no scripture to support any of your comments. You probably heard that from someone and took it at face value.
The Church is very similar to the weight room. When many people walk through their doors their IQ drops about 50 points.
Tell that to Augustine and the Vatican. Also, are the Gospels not scripture?
I can see that.
That doesn’t mean you are right and they are wrong.
Why did God miss the opportunity to prevent disease, starvation, genocide and other suffering?
Couldn’t Jesus’ unjust death in and of itself be a condemnation of capital punishment?
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