@Rednose Dodging??
There is a group with 8000 members who you want to speak to. Instead of you joining the group and asking them directly you want me to ask the 8000 members to join T Nation? You call this dodging? Are you serious??
TRT and Hormone Optimization group on Facebook. Join for free, make a post and ask a question. I can’t make it any more simpler for you. If you can’t be bothered to do that I can’t help you.
Then why are you here?
Then why are you here?
@dbossa I watched the video and congratulations! I thought I had read somewhere in the past that you had issues with prolactin. I didn’t hear you mention it in the video. What role did prolactin have to play and how did you correct it? I also started having gynecomastia before TRT and still struggle with it since starting. I also have other symptoms possibly related to high prolactin. I recently started p5p and curious to know if you took p5p yourself or did anything else to address the prolactin?
Thanks,
Michael
This can’t be a real question. It can’t be.
Am I only allowed to help people in a Facebook group? I can’t help people anywhere else?
You said you wanted to speak to these thousands of people and I showed you where to reach them. Instead you want me to tell 8000 people to come here?
There is no way you can be serious.
You’re argument is AI is poison. I simply asked for proof of that, not some tangent (albeit wrong) about human physiology.
200mg split twice a week. Dial down to 100mg one a week. split 100mg to twice a week. 200mg split into micro doses seven days a week. Still retain water, emotions are a wreck, and E2 shoots up. More than 8 weeks time given on most of these.
So Dr. Bossa (I assume you’re a Dr. or at least a P.A.?), which one should I try AGAIN to “dial in” my protocol. Since we humans react physiologically the exact same to all hormones and drugs, tell me what to do before I poison myself again.
Absolutely serious, why are you here?
And why wont you bring others from your group to share the experiences? Here I’ll compromise make it twenty of the 8000.
Perhaps to re-address this balance?
Aromatase inhibitors have a detrimental effect on the endothelial (at any dose). Do a Google search for those terms and you will find multiple papers on the subject. It’s common knowledge. I have no idea why anyone would want to take an anti-cancer medication designed for women that is demonstrated to negatively impact endothelial function because they think estradiol is a bad thing.
You’ve given me the most level 1 basic information about your protocol which is useless. If you think that’s all there is to it, it’s no wonder how you’re not dialed in.
No, I’m not a doctor. I only have about 30-40 of them who have contacted me so I can teach them how this stuff works. I have a network of 3 dozen doctors that I learn from directly.
Prolactin dropped quite a bit as I raised my testosterone dose. I have used P5P in the past but don’t need it anymore. All values are in ideal spots now and I’m only taking testosterone.
@michael216 my original pre-trt labs showed very high prolactin with absolutely tanked estradiol (12) and testosterone (228). Total T now sits around 1200, free T about 35-40, E2 hovers around 60, and gyno has all but vanished.
Gyno with E2 at 12. Gyno vanishes with E2 at 60. People insist that E2 causes gyno. You can’t make this stuff up.
They have zero interest in joining T Nation. Anyone is free to go there and ask a question. You can go there, ask your questions, and then report back for everyone else. I’ve gone above and beyond virtually anyone in the community.
For the past several weeks all my comments are requiring approval from moderators and sometimes take hours to post.
@Rednose I tried replying to you and they declined my reply.
@Gossamer I’m not wasting another minute in this embarrassment of a forum where they moderate the guys who actually provide help but let retards like equel run rampant.
I’m out. Once moderators remove the approval process on my account I’ll consider coming back.
First it was “I cant” Now its that they don’t want to. Man your all over the place.
And whats with the me, me, me? I’m begging to think its all about the pontificating for you. Not asking anything of you other than to encourage your members to spread the good word around, not just here but all of the TRT help platforms.
Facebook for me is a no go, Once again don’t you want to reach as many as possible? Why limit the flow of information?
Come on man, as knowledgeable and as influential as you are. Surly you can talk a couple of guys into sharing their experiences here in person.
I’ve shared my experience after @dbossa helped me. I went almost 7 years on trt, listening to all the experts who said I need an AI to keep my E2 “in range”. I was bombarded with misinformation about how E2 is evil, and how “high” E2 causes gyno. All the same broscience talking points that are still being pushed here. Since being off of an AI, for the last year, I no longer have ankle and foot pain that bothered me for years. I have a sense of well being that I had never experienced while taking an AI. And before talking to @dbossa, I was convinced that I needed anastrozole. I was convinced that my low weekly dose of 1/2 mg of anastrozole couldn’t possibly be doing me any real harm, because I wasn’t taking “breast cancer” doses.
You guys really need to be more open minded, and listen to what @dbossa is saying. Your bodies will thank you for it.
Great, Thank you. And I mean that.
One out of 8000, any others?
Just to clarify, I wasn’t in his Facebook group. I responded to one of @dbossa’s posts here. I’ve watched some of the videos on his channel, but I’m not on Facebook at all.
So, if he wasn’t here, he wouldn’t have helped me.
This argument I don’t understand. Gyno isn’t JUST about e2, but it’s certainly a factor. If it wasn’t, then SERMs (estrogen receptor modulators) wouldn’t be effective at countering growth.
Am I saying crash e2 with AI at the first sign of gyno? Not at all. I just don’t believe the “e2 has no effect on gyno” argument
It’s not about open mindedness. The “no AI ever” mentality is just as closed minded as anything else. You just happen to agree with that stance. And again, if you feel good, do it up man! Don’t change anything. But this isn’t something that needs to be rammed down ppl’s throats until they submit. The fact that it’s turned into a real … movement, let’s call it, is astonishing.
No it isn’t!
The reason why I came to the conclusion that AIs are unnecessary and harmful for trt, is precisely because I was open minded, and listened to logic, and the evidence! I was closed minded, and believed that I needed an AI, until @dbossa helped me!
I see alot of I’s in what you wrote, but I’m not sure. You are talking about you self here right? Not all of Humanity, Right?
That’s like the third or fourth time you’ve said something like that in the last year or so, but now lemme finally help you out for a second. As the door closes, just mull this over…
Despite whatever network of doctors and interviews you’ve accrued through your FB group and Youtube channel, you’ve repeatedly shown an inability to be the slightest bit flexible with processing contrary information and treating individuals as individuals. Studies agree on some stuff? Cool. A lot of people respond to one type of treatment? Cool.
That doesn’t change the underlying absolute medical fact that certain individuals will require different medications in different doses because they respond differently.
Any doctor or trainer or trainer who tries applying blanket treatments to all patients/clients has settled into a comfortable blanket of ignorance. Nobody should want to be that guy.
To grace this “embarrassment of a forum” and “pathetic excuse for a TRT forum” (another direct quote from you) with your wisdom once again? L O fucking L. Nah.
