If oil approaches $250 dollars a barrel, alternatives will emerge.
Market fixes all.
Electric car + sustainable energy = problem solved. Its closer than you think.
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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
HH what drugs are you taking or have you taken? [/quote]
LOL!
My point is that we’ll either have a command economy or a barter economy. Which is better? I suspect that a command economy is better than a war of all against all.
What do you all think?
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I think you need to read more and post less. Wait, that wouldn’t be entertaining, forget it.[/quote]
Perhaps you need to read…y’know…like clicking the link.
That $200 or $250/barrel oil problem will never impact those other stocks you buy…no never!! And gold? Which was $35 per ounce when I was in high school? Why…that’s going to turn around and go right back to $35 an ounce and the stock market’s going to 100,000!!
I guess history (which you like to ignore) will judge.
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And you ignore economic cycles and that’s why you’ll never make any money. Go hide in your bunker and count your gold coins LOL.
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I bought gold at $270. Did you? I have doubled the money my wife inherited and that was with stocks, many of which were old line stuffy stocks. Have you done anything like that?
I suspect that you spew this vitriol from your boss’ computer in the back of the convenience store where you work. You are a troll and will thus be ignored. Bye!!
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I bought gold at $270. Did you?[/quote]
Wow, no kidding? According to my handy dandy historical gold price chart gold hasn’t been at $250 since the late 70’s. That means in over 30 years you’ve managed to quadruple your money. You are quite the financial titan. Well, hold on I guess not. If you had invested in the DOW when it was at mid 800’s in the late 70’s you would have made about 12 times your money! Even though we are going through a great recession. So I guess you’re not the financial guru you think you are.
So what you’re saying is you inherited stocks that were old school and doubled your money. No I can’t say I ever inherited any stocks which doubled. I have to make my own decisions with my own money, that I’ve actually earned. But, hey good for you, nice windfall. Now if just more people would die and leave you valuable stock portfolio’s you’ll have it made. Good luck with all of that, but it’s really difficult to count on as you’ll see.
Spoken by a school teacher who is on the public dole, and brags about inheriting money. I used to ignore those who called you a troll. I thought, maybe he is, maybe he isn’t but at least he spews conservative values now and again. But in all reality you really are worthless to this board. Hopefully, in your real life you make more sense. But then again I read that one thread where you handed your daughter a certain something, so I don’t hold out much hope that you have much lasting value there either.
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But in all reality you really are worthless to this board.
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QFT
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I bought gold at $270. Did you?[/quote]
Wow, no kidding? According to my handy dandy historical gold price chart gold hasn’t been at $250 since the late 70’s. That means in over 30 years you’ve managed to quadruple your money. You are quite the financial titan. Well, hold on I guess not. If you had invested in the DOW when it was at mid 800’s in the late 70’s you would have made about 12 times your money! Even though we are going through a great recession. So I guess you’re not the financial guru you think you are.
So what you’re saying is you inherited stocks that were old school and doubled your money. No I can’t say I ever inherited any stocks which doubled. I have to make my own decisions with my own money, that I’ve actually earned. But, hey good for you, nice windfall. Now if just more people would die and leave you valuable stock portfolio’s you’ll have it made. Good luck with all of that, but it’s really difficult to count on as you’ll see.
Spoken by a school teacher who is on the public dole, and brags about inheriting money. I used to ignore those who called you a troll. I thought, maybe he is, maybe he isn’t but at least he spews conservative values now and again. But in all reality you really are worthless to this board. Hopefully, in your real life you make more sense. But then again I read that one thread where you handed your daughter a certain something, so I don’t hold out much hope that you have much lasting value there either.
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Wow, what a low life. Your 12 year old boy know what a low life you are? I asked the ladies if such was appropriate, not ‘handed your daughter’. You are a lowlife scum. Please die a horrible and painful death.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I bought gold at $270. Did you?[/quote]
Wow, no kidding? According to my handy dandy historical gold price chart gold hasn’t been at $250 since the late 70’s. That means in over 30 years you’ve managed to quadruple your money. You are quite the financial titan. Well, hold on I guess not. If you had invested in the DOW when it was at mid 800’s in the late 70’s you would have made about 12 times your money! Even though we are going through a great recession. So I guess you’re not the financial guru you think you are.
So what you’re saying is you inherited stocks that were old school and doubled your money. No I can’t say I ever inherited any stocks which doubled. I have to make my own decisions with my own money, that I’ve actually earned. But, hey good for you, nice windfall. Now if just more people would die and leave you valuable stock portfolio’s you’ll have it made. Good luck with all of that, but it’s really difficult to count on as you’ll see.
Spoken by a school teacher who is on the public dole, and brags about inheriting money. I used to ignore those who called you a troll. I thought, maybe he is, maybe he isn’t but at least he spews conservative values now and again. But in all reality you really are worthless to this board. Hopefully, in your real life you make more sense. But then again I read that one thread where you handed your daughter a certain something, so I don’t hold out much hope that you have much lasting value there either.
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Wow, what a low life. Your 12 year old boy know what a low life you are? I asked the ladies if such was appropriate, not ‘handed your daughter’. You are a lowlife scum. Please die a horrible and painful death.
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LOL, Headhunter your constant ill will wished upon me will only return to you. Don’t you know how those things work yet? I’m surprised that you’ve lived as many years as you allegedly claim and still act like a lost teenage boy who trolls the Internet. Now tell me how did you present your daughter with such a highly inappropriate gift? Only after you sought council from “the ladies”? That alone is probably not a conversation you’d like to repeat right?
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
ZEB vs. HH: ZEB for the win, I say!
Makkun
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ZEB vs. HH: ZEB for the win, I say!
Makkun[/quote]
It was a whitewash…
[quote]makkun wrote:
ZEB vs. HH: ZEB for the win, I say!
Makkun[/quote]
Times two!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
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This is why I like you, Zeb. One of the few conservatives that actually shows a sense of humor.
And the thread you speak of is classic.
HH at least is entertaining once one understands what it is he is here for:
YOUR HEAD!
op - well, let’s assume that the facts and predictions in the article are 100% spot on…
why national socialism though? why not, say, market - regulated/government backed investments into alternative energy source R&D ?
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
op - well, let’s assume that the facts and predictions in the article are 100% spot on…
why national socialism though? why not, say, market - regulated/government backed investments into alternative energy source R&D ? [/quote]
As the era of American predominance ebbs, the world will go unpoliced. This will cause a rise in international disorder (think Sudanese piracy, times a few thousand). To prevent this disorder from coming to the USA, it will be necessary for the central government to become more watchful of the population. In this day and age, a mass murderer can leave Yemen and be here in less than a day. This MUST tend toward a police state.
Our predominance is based on cheap oil. We live on it, it runs our economy. Unless an intelligent alternative is found with at least a 20 year lead time, this must be a chaotic interim, and when we will be most vulnerable. Waning international power coincides with increasing disruptions at home.
These two together MUST tend toward authoritarianism.
The world needs petty policing - Now that’s insane even for you!
Since when did the US chase pirates just to make the seven seas safer?
This is the century of slaves & pirates after all, just the right time to put your ginormous navy to good use!
Did they overthrow the Birmese goons, who, btw, would be a cakewalk compared to Iraq & Ghanistan?
That would be a way to “redeem” yourself in southeast asia - you could trade taiwan and reduce your bases in Korea and Japan to appease the dragon.
Did you successfully stabilize any american country south of you that’s wrecked by druglords?
It’s rather the other way around, I’m afraid…
The Eagle doesn’t want a police badge, he wants a crown.
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In this day and age, a mass murderer can leave Yemen and be here in less than a day. This MUST tend toward a police state.
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Why would this be drastically different if it took him 2 weeks or 10 weeks to get here?
I think you’re confusing the need for government control of strategic resources with socialism.
US actually has a certain degree of that control implemented already - offshore drilling in federal waters, for example, is tightly controlled.
As for the “national” part - not quite sure how that comes into play. What does that mean exactly?
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One problem with your idea is it is based upon a big lie. That lie being that oil is a “fossil fuel”. Oil is not produced from rotting swamp vegetation that ended up underground which makes it a limited resource.
Oil is produced from methane that is produced by living organisms that are deep underground. Over time as it pushes up to the surface it gets converted to oil and gets trapped in reservoirs. That is why empty oil wells that have been capped and left alone have been known to refill. It is also why we have been able to find oil at depths in the ocean where the land never could have seen the light of day for the oil to have been produced by fossils.
Three quarters of the earths surface is underwater and unexplored there could be vast reserves out there just waiting for us to find them.
Another fuel that is know to be in the ocean is methane clathrate. Methane clathrate - Wikipedia
I can’t for the life of me figure out what their motivation to come up with this solution was, but the Israelis have developed an energy cycle that uses sunlight, zinc and biomass to economically produce hydrogen fuel. Five years ago they were saying this technology is ready to go into mass production it just needs the investment.
http://www.isracast.com/article.aspx?id=51
We even have bacteria that can produce crude oil.
http://www.technologyreview.com/biztech/19128/
The limiting factor is technology. Your premise assumes that our technology for recovering energy is not going to improve much in the next forty years. It also assumes that in that time we are not going to figure out how to mass produce synthetic fuels economically or come up with other solutions. Which is ridiculous.
The same mentality is applied when looking at population projections in Europe. They say the population is growing older with less young people so they need mass immigration to keep a pool of working age to support the increasingly old and decrepit population. It assumes that medical technology will not be able to improve the quality of life for older people substantially enough that they would be able to continue living productive lives. Even though joint replacements, bionics and stem cells are already being used therapeutically they are saying there will not be much if any improvement in the next 20 - 30 years.
Our knowledge is growing at an exponential rate. As new knowledge is acquired it is accelerating the rate at which we acquire even more. That is why we had such drastic change in the 20th century and it hasn’t slowed down in the 21st. Just look at the miniaturization of gadgets in the last twenty years. ie An Apple iphone is smaller than a Motorola brick, a walkman, 8mm camcorder, my first computer and can do more than all of them combined.
We do not need totalitarian government as a solution to problems that are not going to exist. Also asymmetrical mass immigration is going to render the concept of nationalism in first world countries unworkable. Japan and China will still have a common national identity to organize around. But in places like Europe the people are not going to have any common identity until the muslims take it over. [/quote]
Magnificent post.
Yes, life is going to look completely different in 40 years… but for the reasons you cite, not HH.
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[quote]ZEB wrote:
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
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This is why I like you, Zeb. One of the few conservatives that actually shows a sense of humor.
And the thread you speak of is classic.[/quote]
I think I missed that thread. Now you have me wondering what he gave her. Did he give her something battery powered? What?
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
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This is why I like you, Zeb. One of the few conservatives that actually shows a sense of humor.
And the thread you speak of is classic.[/quote]
I think I missed that thread. Now you have me wondering what he gave her. Did he give her something battery powered? What?
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You missed it because I never gave my duaghter anything of the sort. Zeb and company are lying because they can’t answer an argument without attacking me using my little daughter. They are truly a ‘class’ chorus.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
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This is why I like you, Zeb. One of the few conservatives that actually shows a sense of humor.
And the thread you speak of is classic.[/quote]
I think I missed that thread. Now you have me wondering what he gave her. Did he give her something battery powered? What?
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You missed it because I never gave my duaghter anything of the sort. Zeb and company are lying because they can’t answer an argument without attacking me using my little daughter. They are truly a ‘class’ chorus.[/quote]
Headhunter, my best advice to you would be to take a deep breath and ask yourself if you really want to go down this road. A road that is well paved with many previous posts written by YOU.
This is my final warning to you HH. Up to this point I have no more than lightly chided you. My next post won’t be so carefully measured. For once in your (posting) life use some good judgement. Hang your head and keep walking.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You should really explain to everyone here on T Nation what you gave your daughter and why. Let’s let them decide who the low life scum bag is? I think I already know, and if you are not afraid, tell the others, come on Headhunter. You must be so proud!
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This is why I like you, Zeb. One of the few conservatives that actually shows a sense of humor.
And the thread you speak of is classic.[/quote]
I think I missed that thread. Now you have me wondering what he gave her. Did he give her something battery powered? What?
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That is correct!