Is Civilian Gun Ownership a Necessity?

I really like your statistical style of analysis haha.

That said, I think one can view the question of “necessity” a couple different ways. Owning a gun is very clearly not a necessity for daily living as almost none of us exclusively hunt or forage for sustenance.

However, I view the question of necessity from a standpoint of preservation of rights and self defense. In other words, “is private gun ownership a necessity for preserving one’s autonomy?” I think the answer here is yes.

I tore my distal bicep tendon earlier this year with one handed tire flips. BPC 157 was an option but I opted for CJC-1295, starting 72 hours after surgery with a 4 week course. I wanted to get GH at ~6 out/day but that was not an option for prescription due to regulatory hurdles. My doc was perfectly willing.

Full daily protocol for first 4 week post surgery was:

10,000 IU vitamin A
500 mg vitamin C
25g zinc
10,000 IU vitamin D
Vitamin B 1, 3, 6, 12 at 2-5000 % each
Chelated copper at 4 mg
Magnesium chelate prior to bed

20 g collagen
20 g arginine
20 g glutamine
10 g HMB (could use leucine)

All in addition to normal high protein diet

CJC-1295 at ~30 mcg/kg/day (prescribed)
TRT (prescribed)

Tapered down some after 4 weeks, kept most.

My rehab was novel and will likely be published at some point by myself and my PT as a case report. I was doing banded partial tricep extensions 7 days post surgery, was benching 6 weeks post surgery with light farmer carries, pronated rows at 6 weeks, deadlifting 8 weeks post surgery, and back up to 500 at 12 weeks post (much less than normal but grip is an issue and I need to change my supinated hand, plus detrained hamstrings/low back). Bench reached the 90% normal mark at about 14 weeks ish… Farmer carries were at 365-400 lb with a trap bar at about 10 weeks (can’t remember exactly without my notes). 140 lb one arm DB rows x 6-8 reps at 14-15 weeks.

Nope not technically. Gray, but you can be sure of the quality with a prescription. Expensive though.

Some further thoughts:

This question of necessity can be further divided into aggregate or particular circumstances. I would argue that gun ownership is not a necessity in particular (i.e. individual) circumstances–one should have free will to decide as they choose whether they want to own a gun or not, regardless of the wisdom of that choice from a self defense standpoint.

However I think it is absolutely a requirement in the aggregate for the populace as a whole to have the ability to arm themselves. In other words I do believe that an armed populace is a deterrent to direct tyranny. This is not due to some “Red Dawn” type fantasy of the populace being able to show down against tanks and air power, but due to the very nature of autonomy-- if you lack the ability to procure the means to protect yourself then by definition you lack autonomy.

I would also say that the current threat of tyranny (or overreaching) is due to apathy and distraction on the part of the population instead of direct active oppression from Uncle Sam. We care more for convenience than independence, and most cannot be bothered to remember anything more recent than a few weeks ago. The historical literacy of our population is trending down and we are dramatically selfish.

There is no way to guard against this onset of tyranny entirely, but that is not the problem the 2nd amendment was created to solve. The job of the population is to erect as many barriers as possible against the onset of power hungry government and to be active and engaged. The 2nd amendment is one such barrier and was never meant to function entirely on its own (i.e. without other amendments and without an engaged population).

Put more succinctly, I believe gun ownership is a necessary but not sufficient precondition for autonomy.

I don’t favor limits, but for the sake of argument you could say:

  • 1 primary big game long gun
  • 1 primary small game long gun
  • 1 primary big game shotgun
  • 1 primary small game shotgun
  • 1 handgun for self defense (concealed or open carry)
  • 1 backup handgun for self defense
  • 1-2 target guns for practice or skill development (could be different calibers or setups from primary choices, or test pieces to see whether you wanted to switch primary platforms… We all need to tinker)

So 6-8 a person without a collector’s license would cover pretty much all the functionality a person could want.

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Which of those is for defense against tyranny?

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I ran both after surgery to repair multiple hernias alongside brief use of ipamorelin/cjc 1295

Was lifting again within 8 days, back to normal 5 weeks in. The estimated recovery time was waaaaayyyyy longer than that.

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People who are against guns probably never fired them. Guns are fun. You just need to respect them.

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Is this a response to me?

I’ve fired many guns (from when I lived in the US). Was looking at getting back into going to shooting ranges here but it’s heinously expensive, as is everything else in overpriced Australia…

Wanna go shoot a handgun for an hour? That’s around 200aud… Unless you have your own, which you generally need to be a member of a gun club for. The process isn’t particularly difficult contrary to popular belief. Our gun laws are far too stringent whereas I believe they’re too lax in America. But our gun laws also pale in comparison to say… Japan or south Korea.

As a matter of fact I could (probably) acquire a gun license if I applied for one despite my medical history. I don’t want a gun license though… I don’t want to own a gun, I just want to go shooting for fun

Only cheap option here was .22 cal bolt action rifles or black powder antique rifles/shotguns/pistols as one doesn’t need a license to procure one (depending on state) and you can join muzzleloading clubs. Still, the hassle isn’t worth it. Owning a gun here tends to attract a LOT of attention/scrutiny that I don’t want.

No. It’s to the thread in general.

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Taxi driver reference

Solid film!

Any and all of them

Yes, it’s fantastic. But you have to have the raw materials and minerals to support collagen synthesis in the first place too. I have an acquaintance that’s still unable to walk after 12 weeks of ankle surgery because they have a number of marked deficiencies in nutrients. They should have been up and about weeks ago.

Yep. There’s a difference between fear and respect of them. They’re perfectly predictable.

Crossbow. :smiley:
Heard a story about a guy in the country, someone broke in… and his guns were in the safe.
His bow was in his room, though, and he caught the intruder on the landing of his stairs, turned on the lights, with an arrow nocked.
He had the intruder call the police, and ask them to come.
Police asked why he didn’t run, he said, “I couldn’t survive. A gun, I’d run. A bow hunter, with wear on the bow? He’s not missing, and he’s a surer shot than a guy with a pistol.”

:wink:

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For sure, if it were illegal to own a gun, I’d have a crossbow, or two.

Crossbows are also subject to regulation here.

You can get a compound bow capable of shooting arrows at a tremendous amount of force/velocity though. Apparently they can shoot an arrow as far as around 400 metres away.

Don’t need a license for bow hunting either. Somehow bow/arrow slipped through the weapons regulations here.

Can’t own a sword in some states, but you can own a highly lethal, powerful weapon that has the potential to launch projectiles up to nearly half a kilometre away. A weapon used to kill large animals by skilled hunters… But a sword or butterfly knife, those are the real dangers…