Iraq Death Toll

According to some posters here, if you aren’t in combat, you can’t support the war.

Ok. Now it’s time for the Police to help only fellow Policemen.

“Hey, fuck you. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t get the protection. Don’t support cops. Just keep your mouth shut. By the way, if you aren’t willing to join the force, then don’t call.”

“But, they are robbing my house!!!”

“You a cop?”

“No.”

“Enlist. You are healthy. What’s the problem? No other job is as important. In fact, no one else in contributing to the safety of your neighborhood besides the cops.”

JeffR

Yes, we’ll flip the switch and have it all completed for tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience!

You think an idealogical conflict of this scale can be “put to an end” with one little war?

We are merely at the beginning of a long long road – and no, I dont mean simply the current situation in Iraq.

For the next twenty years we are going to be dealing with children of war who grew up waiting for a chance to strike back at the west because some relative died in this conflict.

It may be that they are brainwashed and incorrect, but that doesn’t make their hatred and actions any less damaging to the concept of peace.

I hope we are figuring out ways to combat that too…

[quote]vroom wrote:
put to an end

Yes, we’ll flip the switch and have it all completed for tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience!

You think an idealogical conflict of this scale can be “put to an end” with one little war?

We are merely at the beginning of a long long road – and no, I dont mean simply the current situation in Iraq.

For the next twenty years we are going to be dealing with children of war who grew up waiting for a chance to strike back at the west because some relative died in this conflict.

It may be that they are brainwashed and incorrect, but that doesn’t make their hatred and actions any less damaging to the concept of peace.

I hope we are figuring out ways to combat that too…[/quote]

I seriously doubt many have thought that far or that deeply about it. I also think many falsely believe that we have reduced the number of terrorists. I think our children will be in for a very sharp awakening.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
According to some posters here, if you aren’t in combat, you can’t support the war.

Ok. Now it’s time for the Police to help only fellow Policemen.

“Hey, fuck you. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t get the protection. Don’t support cops. Just keep your mouth shut. By the way, if you aren’t willing to join the force, then don’t call.”

“But, they are robbing my house!!!”

“You a cop?”

“No.”

“Enlist. You are healthy. What’s the problem? No other job is as important. In fact, no one else in contributing to the safety of your neighborhood besides the cops.”

JeffR[/quote]

jerffy, I myself have never called the cops and I have known a few people that were roughed up by the cops. I do conversely have several friends that are police officers.

You jerffy are a rabid cheerleader and it is a bit hypocritical for you to be such a cartwheeling cheerleader without action. You don’t have to enlist Blackwater will take you over there for a year with your police experience and you will make at least 200,000 in that time.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
According to some posters here, if you aren’t in combat, you can’t support the war.

Ok. Now it’s time for the Police to help only fellow Policemen.

“Hey, fuck you. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t get the protection. Don’t support cops. Just keep your mouth shut. By the way, if you aren’t willing to join the force, then don’t call.”

“But, they are robbing my house!!!”

“You a cop?”

“No.”

“Enlist. You are healthy. What’s the problem? No other job is as important. In fact, no one else in contributing to the safety of your neighborhood besides the cops.”

JeffR[/quote]

How about support troops?

Is this the part where you say "Hey I have a better chance of dying in a car wreck on my way to be deployed during Gulf War I? Or that I’m a hardass radar operator! "

Oh wait I got it. “I’m the toughest, baddest, fattest doctor on the planet. Although I can’t spell ‘Vicodin’, I am the hardest man to ever be 8 000 miles from the enemy!”

Hey I could do this too, if I were serving in the rear with the gear.

If only you’d let this shit go.

Otherwise, you are a good guy.

By the way, no more cheering for anything you aren’t directly involved in.

Hear your own words, “You can’t cheer unless you are in it. You can’t support people that you haven’t served with.”

Brother E. wrote:

“jerffy, I myself have never called the cops and I have known a few people that were roughed up by the cops. I do conversely have several friends that are police officers.”

The reason you have never called the cops is called deterrance. Take a peak at your neighborhood once in a while. Wave. Say thanks.

Imagine all of your protectors on their way to Iraq.

You’d be in deep shit.

“You jerffy are a rabid cheerleader and it is a bit hypocritical for you to be such a cartwheeling cheerleader without action.”

Ok, Brother E. Shall we compare the physical danger I am in compared to your “plotting targets.” Seriously. You ever pulled a piece in anger? Ever heard a bullet near your left ear?

How dare you say “without action.” Think about our brothers on 9/11 in the WTC. You open your mouth about them?

“You don’t have to enlist Blackwater will take you over there for a year with your police experience and you will make at least 200,000 in that time.”

Again, what happens if the force is broken up by bounty hunters?

I think it’s fair to say that I am no coward, I deeply respect my brothers/sisters in arms, I support our mission, and I think it’s fair to say that I’m needed here.

JeffR

[quote]Cream wrote:
JeffR wrote:
According to some posters here, if you aren’t in combat, you can’t support the war.

Ok. Now it’s time for the Police to help only fellow Policemen.

“Hey, fuck you. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t get the protection. Don’t support cops. Just keep your mouth shut. By the way, if you aren’t willing to join the force, then don’t call.”

“But, they are robbing my house!!!”

“You a cop?”

“No.”

“Enlist. You are healthy. What’s the problem? No other job is as important. In fact, no one else in contributing to the safety of your neighborhood besides the cops.”

JeffR

How about support troops?

Is this the part where you say "Hey I have a better chance of dying in a car wreck on my way to be deployed during Gulf War I? Or that I’m a hardass radar operator! "

Oh wait I got it. “I’m the toughest, baddest, fattest doctor on the planet. Although I can’t spell ‘Vicodin’, I am the hardest man to ever be 8 000 miles from the enemy!”

Hey I could do this too, if I were serving in the rear with the gear.[/quote]

cream, you are the definition of a punk ass bitch. The epitome of an internet warrior hiding his skinny weak prepubescent ass behind a keyboard. WTF have you ever done? You want to degrade the service we gave. You yourself are a rabid cheerleader too chickenshit to do anything but post anonymously from a PC.

They wouldn’t want a shit talking punk like you over there anyway you would be more of a liability better for you to stay wit the children where you can feel an air of superiority you bitch.

[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
Cream wrote:
JeffR wrote:
According to some posters here, if you aren’t in combat, you can’t support the war.

Ok. Now it’s time for the Police to help only fellow Policemen.

“Hey, fuck you. If you aren’t a cop, you don’t get the protection. Don’t support cops. Just keep your mouth shut. By the way, if you aren’t willing to join the force, then don’t call.”

“But, they are robbing my house!!!”

“You a cop?”

“No.”

“Enlist. You are healthy. What’s the problem? No other job is as important. In fact, no one else in contributing to the safety of your neighborhood besides the cops.”

JeffR

How about support troops?

Is this the part where you say "Hey I have a better chance of dying in a car wreck on my way to be deployed during Gulf War I? Or that I’m a hardass radar operator! "

Oh wait I got it. “I’m the toughest, baddest, fattest doctor on the planet. Although I can’t spell ‘Vicodin’, I am the hardest man to ever be 8 000 miles from the enemy!”

Hey I could do this too, if I were serving in the rear with the gear.

cream, you are the definition of a punk ass bitch. The epitome of an internet warrior hiding his skinny weak prepubescent ass behind a keyboard. WTF have you ever done? You want to degrade the service we gave. You yourself are a rabid cheerleader too chickenshit to do anything but post anonymously from a PC.

They wouldn’t want a shit talking punk like you over there anyway you would be more of a liability better for you to stay wit the children where you can feel an air of superiority you bitch.
[/quote]

He may be a rabid cheerleader, your just a rabid asshole. You call people out like you know them. You don’t know any of us. You’re the one who always plays the tough man internet bully, I respect you for serving, I respect you for being a Broncos fan, I respect that you appreciate the female body almost as much as I do. I do not respect your attitude towards others who disagree with you. It’s quite clear you think you have all the answers all the time. If you were my father, we would have probably stopped talking a long time ago.

I’m all for people giving thier ideas, but start telling me how to think, act or live, and no matter what message your trying to send, i’ll reject it straight out just so you’ll maybe learn the lesson that no one wants to have someone else tell them what to do. If your message is good, i’ll hear it eventually, just not from you.

V

jerffy, please tell us where you are? L.A. Rampart division? New York, Spanish Harlem? Where, oh where are you working that you are under constant fire. You spend an inordinate amount of time on the internet to be out assaulting precinct 13.

Are you sure you’re not a desk jockey are a metermaid with delusions of grandeur that you are Starsky to creamies hutch?

Please tell us of this warzone you are working in?

If I were your father, I would have cut my balls off as to not contaminate the world any further with stupidity!

Ahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahaha!

News flash. This is an Internet discussion forum full of bastards, assholes and opinions.

[quote]Right Side Up wrote:
Over 1700 now…and for what?[/quote]

You are being willfully ignorant. The “for what” has been explained a thousand times and you still do not get it.

Your lack of understanding does not make you look smart.

There are valid arguments against the war, but I keep seeing the same old tired, discredited BS rather than an intelligent discussion.

[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
If I were your father, I would have cut my balls off as to not contaminate the world any further with stupidity![/quote]

Oh my, no did you seriously just make another joke about how stupid I am? I could have sworn you had already done this 987 times, must of thought it would still be funny on the 988th time huh?

Tubesteak boogie is about all I can say to you at this point.

Tubesteak boogie,

V

[quote]vroom wrote:
If you were my father, we would have probably stopped talking a long time ago.

Ahahahahahaha! Bahahahahahaha!

News flash. This is an Internet discussion forum full of bastards, assholes and opinions.
[/quote]

Tubesteak Boogie!

V

[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
Todd S. wrote:
I don’t want to imply that 1700 dead is not alot, but in PA alone, about 1500 die in car wrecks every year.

What if you or one of your family were one of “hey it happens every day car wreck victims,”? What if you were one of the thousands who are severly disabled armless, legless, sightless.

Would you still be so cavalier in your attitude?[/quote]

You make a good point. Over 1700 dead…how many are limbless or confind to a wheelchair for the rest of their lives? We tout deaths as if that is the end all, be all but really this war is affecting many more that the current statistic of 1700.

Viet Iraq

Ahhahahahaha! Priceless. If you are going to plop that in everywhere you are going to end up being the definition of a tube steak boogie.

Damn, don’t let me stop you!

[quote]vroom wrote:
Tube Steak Boogie

Ahhahahahaha! Priceless. If you are going to plop that in everywhere you are going to end up being the definition of a tube steak boogie.

Damn, don’t let me stop you![/quote]

The great porn master vegita froom mommy and daddies basement tube steak boogied me… I better go slit my wrists now. I am doomed! Ha, how retarded can one get? Oh, wait I shouldn’t ask that question!

elk.,

Ok, you are determined on this one, huh?

A big city in Maryland.

That’s all you are going to get.

I’m not constantly under fire. I do my part. No more, no less.

I’m done talking about my job.

You try to lord it over everyone with your “heroics.” I’m not comfortable doing that.

Not one damn bit.

There are people that trully are under fire daily.

The Pat Tilman’s, Rangertabs, and Hedo are heroes.

You ever hear Hedo talking about his service?

Nope.

Ranger only brings it up when there are idiotic statments being made.

Period.

You certainly make yourself look very bad with trying to use your service to lord it over others.

You might want to take a page out of Hedo’s playbook.

Finally, if you want to discount every non-military position, that’s your problem.

Let’s hope you never have to dial 911.

JeffR

[quote]vroom wrote:
Tube Steak Boogie

Ahhahahahaha! Priceless. If you are going to plop that in everywhere you are going to end up being the definition of a tube steak boogie.

Damn, don’t let me stop you![/quote]

Plop it in everywhere? I plop it in when you guys act like a bunch of idiots. But i’m glad I amuse you, at least I have some comical value in your eyes. You have no value in mine. :wink:

V